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Why do people care where we are in the playoff poll right now?

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 6:07 AM
 

We win out we are in. If we do not, we are out. Nothing has changed.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 6:13 AM
 

Agree 100%! Everything is going to take care of itself if we only keep winning. Period!


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 6:25 AM
 

Just like Dabo said, he felt a little disrespected, so some of us Clemson ppl feel a little disrespected!!!


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 6:29 AM
 

Dabo really doesnt feel disrespected. He is using it as motivation. It is meaningless right now. He knows that. Being 1 would be "rat poison". I bet he loves us being 5 right now. It's perfect.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:04 AM
 

Using being disrespected to your advantage, does not mean that you do not feel that way. Last year Dabo talked about the ROY bus and everybody's premature coronation of Alabama as the greatest of all time because he wanted our young men to be respected for how great they were in comparison. I doubt that he is that concerned about respect for himself, but I expect that it is a little needle in his side that the young men that play for him are not getting the respect that they deserve.


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:15 AM
 

Dabo knows it doesnt matter.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 6:37 AM
 

To me it's not where the Tigers are in the CFP ranking, it's all about the lack of respect for this program. What else do the Tigers have to do?

How can they say Penn State has a good win against Pitt, a 1 score win at home and penalize Clemson for a close game with UNC?

I won't even talk about O31O and Bama's schedule. Does the committee even consider the Strength of Team (not SOS or SOR)? Which team ahead of Clemson can average playing over 70 players a game and still have a 33 point winning margin? I didn't think you could and after all the conversation, I doubt the committee even knows or considers it.

If Clemson wins, they are in. Go Tigers!

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 6:42 AM
 

There is no disrespect whatsoever. We were completely respected. They know if we win out we are in.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:10 AM
 

No disrespect? So you think that we are the 5th best team in the country. I think that you probably mean that the disrespect can be used to our advantage, because unless there are 4 teams better, Clemson is being disrespected.


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:18 AM
 

Its not about being the 5th best team. Its about being in the 4 team playoff. The committee knows that. They actually gave us great respect. They just told us that if we win out we are in. We should be more gracious.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:59 AM
 

We'll have to agree to disagree, because I don't see it that way. I see it as them saying that there are 4 better teams and we can back into the playoffs because there will be 2 games between the 4 best that will drop them behind us. Anybody that thinks Clemson should be backing into the playoffs, in my opinion is disrespecting this team.


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:22 AM
 

You must live in a bubble Carlsbad!

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:58 AM
 

I live in the real world. We win out we are in. It's 100%. Same as it has always been.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:25 AM
 

PSU has 2 top 20 Ws. They have a better SOR. Can't really be upset with them being in front of us. Ofcourse they should be ahead of Bama too imo. You cannot use the eye test and say Bama is better than them but not say we are better.


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:15 AM
 

This is where I have a problem. Pedo state has two top 20 wins, against teams that had no business being in the top 25 to start the season.

Iowa is not a good team. Michigan is definitely not a good team. Michigan caught lightning in a bottle against ND. I bet if ND played them again it wouldn't be the same.

Just like UGA's win against UF, UF has no business being no 10. SEC teams have been propped up but Auburn and LSU at least deserve it for going out of conference to beat good teams (well Texas isn't good anymore but Oregon is). Not a single big time win for the Big 10 out of conference.

We beat a T A&M team by 14, should have been by 21 and they are still a good team, lost to Bama, lost to Auburn and I do think they are hitting stride now and could beat LSU and UGA.

It will take care of itself but it's disrespect plain and simple and the first pole is complete bullshit. They destroyed our record of playoff pole appearances as well, no one had that on us.


I agree with you but I still don’t agree with the committee

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 6:51 AM
 

I’m kinda glad we are fifth. Dabo will use this to his advantage to motivate the team.

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Exactly

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 6:58 AM
 

This couldn’t have played into Dabo’s hands any better. How do you keep a team that is throttling everyone in front of them motivated? This is how. A 13-0 Clemson will be at worst 3rd in the final rankings.

All the rankings up until conference championship weekend do not matter. Keep your BP down and don’t sweat it for another month and enjoy as Dabo trades in the ROY bus for the ROY 757.


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:09 AM
 

Every team in the Top 5 has a legitimate claim to be in the top 4. At this point there isn’t enough body of work to accurately sort them, and frankly... the committee knows that. Someone had to be left out and they chose Clemson. So be it...

Clemson has the exact same chance of making the playoffs as they would if they were ranked 1st. Not worth worrying. The only thing that can stop a playoff run is a loss.

Rankings don’t matter. The only thing that counts is getting in.... and Clemson is in prime position with a dose of attitude.


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:14 AM
 

I'm not concerned about the poll. I'm concerned about the stupid comments the committee gave to explain their "reasoning." Everyone here wants to say, "Win out and we're in." Maybe, but undefeated teams have been left out before.

What if Alabama beats LSU and Penn State beats Ohio State? What if Oregon crushes a top 10 Utah at the end of the season? Or Georgia beats an undefeated LSU in the SEC championship. The committee are stupid (I mean, why is a random professor and an ex-General on it?). Do you really trust them to put the undefeated team in, even though they should. I could see them doing some stupid #### like saying "LSU has marquis wins over Texas, Florida, Auburn, and A&M, and their only loss was to Alabama, our top ranked team. Ohio State has marquis wins over Wisconsin, Iowa, and Michigan, and only lost to #2 Penn State. Of course they deserve to go." And then leave an undefeated Clemson out due to "strength of schedule."

People are ignoring that there's no real defender of Clemson in that room, and there are anti-Clemson parties. Ken Hatfield was fired here. Stricklin and Slocum are both going to try to get as many SEC teams as possible at the table. Barta will do the same with Big Ten teams. Three of the committee have nothing to do with athletics. Who does Clemson have in that room? Beamer?


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:19 AM
 

Who cares what their reasoning supposedly was. They just told us if we win out we are in. We should be appreciative and excited.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:18 AM
 

You act like that is the case, his scenario above is a real possibility. Just because they said if we win and were in , you are going to believe that shit? Come on man!


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:22 AM
 

It is 100% we are in if we win out. Its not even a remote question. One has to be delusional to think we won't be.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:45 AM
 

Well by what they told us last night it’s possible to be left out even undefeated.
I think it will all play out but if Bama gets beat by LSU and UGA wins the SEC . Ohio St goes 13-0 and all these suck ACC teams keep beating each other . Lord let’s hope we don’t have another close game .


why Do people not care? It’s downright


Posted: Nov 6, 2019 7:50 AM
 

Wrong and insulting. Bama at 3 is a slap on n the face. Be fun to watch them sink

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:06 AM
 

Youre easily insulted. I see it as a sign of respect. They just told us if we win out we are in. We just got invited to a great person's wedding. It would be like complaining that we werent the first person to get the call with an invite. We were invited. Be gracious and appreciative. We are invited to play with the top 4 teams in the nation to see who is best. Thats awesome.

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Probably because....


Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:11 AM
 

...no one wants to hear our detractors pile on by having to hear "even the CFP thinks y'all are over rated".

Sure, it'll be sweeter when we kill our first CFP opponent but having to endure the doubters gets old. We've been hearing this same crap for nearly 5 years.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:16 AM
 

There is nothing to endure. We win out. We go to the playoff. From there it is all proven on the field. What else matters?

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Why did you bother to watch the CFP show?


Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:25 AM
 

Why do you bother to read opinions here on Tnet? Apparently it does matter to you what people think about the Tigers.

Tells us why you care...you shouldn't care enough to be posting about the fact we shouldn't care.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:29 AM
 

I care about others opinions and your opinion, but on this issue it's cut and dry. I like your posts though. I am just very positive on this issue. Its a non issue. Also, try to respect my opinion. Joking of course.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:31 AM
 

Carlsbad® has a good point. If we go undefeated we go to the playoffs. That is not in question because there wont be more than 4 undefeated teams come the first week in December.

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It's "probably" true...there ain't no guarantee


Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:38 AM
 

But we "should" be fine if we take care of bidness.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 9:28 AM
 

Maybe I can explain it this way. I don't want it to be any doubt that we deserve to be in the playoff. I agree that we will get in, but I don't like that some team might have an argument boistered by the idea that they were a better team but got left out because another top team beat them on a given day. Sure Ohio State won the first CFP, but TCU might have beaten Ohio State and everybody else if they had not dropped from 3rd out of the playoff after a 50+ point win. If 1 or 2 of the top 4 lose in a close game to another, and get left out then they will be crying that the championship is not legitimate. I will still take it, but I don't like the potential of the argument.


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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 9:33 AM
 

There already arent any doubts. The top 4 teams play eachother. We are 5th.

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Posted: Nov 6, 2019 8:51 AM
 

Because people are dumb. Plus, our recent success has brought the Walmart crowd into our fanbase and they aren't known for their critical thinking skills.


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