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TNET: Clemson WR will forego senior season


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 12:59 PM
 

 
Clemson WR will forego senior season

Clemson wide receiver Ray-Ray McCloud will forego his senior season and enter the NFL draft. Read Update »



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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:01 PM
 

Thanks for everything Ray Ray continue to grow and win in the NFL


Re: Whaa???


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 6:41 PM
 

I'd never bash a former CU player, but I'm a bit unsure of what kind of advice he is receiving from agent/NFL scouts. Needed his senior year in my opinion, but good luck.


Re: Whaa???


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 3:39 AM
 

Agreed, Ray Ray definitely needs another year. He needs to prove he can hold on to the ball, believe he'll be sorry! Hope I'm wrong!


Re: Whaa???


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 3:39 AM
 

Agreed, Ray Ray definitely needs another year. He needs to prove he can hold on to the ball, believe he'll be sorry! Hope I'm wrong!


Re: Whaa???


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 7:38 AM
 

He kind of reminds me of Ted Ginn Jr. They're around the same size, both have a lot of speed, and both seem to have issues with hands from time to time. If Ted Ginn jr made it I think Ray Ray can. He just needs to be invited to the combine and he needs to show out. If not I can't see him any higher than the 5th or 6th round tbh. He's a great player that fit into our scheme well but I'm not 100% sure how he would fit in an NFL scheme with his size.

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Re: Whaa???


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 8:03 AM
 

I'd say it has a lot to do with the emergence of Amari Rogers too.


Re: Whaa???


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 12:00 PM
 

Think of it this way...he was being asked at the beginning of the season how'd he feel about playing on the other side of the ball. He had a pretty good season and maybe wants to go out on top of the position he likes the most. Good Luck Ray Ray!


Can't blame him


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 9:07 PM
 

With injury risk, take the money.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:02 PM
 

Didn't expect this one but I'm interested to see what Amari Rodgers does in his place. Good luck RMIII.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 3:09 PM
 

Wish him the very best and appreciate his hard work. Glad we have a couple of special players coming in behind him.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:02 PM
 

Wow, not expecting that one. Wish him the best! This might be the only position that we can really afford guys leaving early. Still, would love to have seen him in orange again.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:02 PM
 

I wish Ray-Ray the best in the NFL, he has been a solid player for us over the years. I hope someone picks him up as I expected him back next year, I don't think he has the body or hands for the league.

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:22 PM
 

I think he will be a dang good special teams player and also could be used at the slot or like McCaffery.


he has the hands, as far as size have you ever heard of Wes Walker or Cole Beasley***

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:15 PM
 



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No

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:48 PM
 

But I HAVE heard of Wes WELKER.

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The definition of awesome!


Boom***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 3:09 PM
 



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He has proven himself though


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 8:48 AM
 

Only thing Ray-Ray is good at is dropping punts and running backwards.

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He has hands?***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 3:23 PM
 




Re: TNET: Clemson WR will forego senior season- tricky pic


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:03 PM
 

I thought it would be Cain and Ray Ray would stay. I guess ultimately Cain may still leave too. Well good luck

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yeah, this leads me to believe Cain is leaving too***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:05 PM
 




Re: yeah, this leads me to believe Cain is leaving too***

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:01 PM
 

One can only hope


For your coots to win would take the entire first and second

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:16 PM
 

team leaving.

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Cain could play his way into round 1,


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 7:22 PM
 

Didn’t happen this year but it could happen next. Maybe they told Ray Ray that he was free agent bound and another year wouldn’t change that. I thought he had a real shot if he played next year at DB.


Best of Luck Ray Ray***

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:03 PM
 

Man it feels just like yesterday ray ray was coming onto campus as a freshman. Wish this young man nothing but the best! I can see his rationale for leaving after seeing Artavis go undrafted, he probably realizes he has nothing left to prove.

Plenty of depth at WR though, men will step up!


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:05 PM
 

Don’t know who is advising him but I think the best he can hope for is a spot on a practice squad like Tay. Wish him the best!

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:16 PM
 

I will say that if Hunter Renfrow leaves, he will be taking up one of the NFL slots that another Tiger receiver may miss out on bc, I believe that Hunter is the best receiver on our team, last season and this season!!!

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:20 PM
 

Man, you had me right up until that last sentence. He's good, but not Mike Williams.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:34 PM
 

I don't think that Ray Ray is as good as Nuk was when he left for the NFL, but not many are except for maybe Renfrow....

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:41 PM
 

RRM is nowhere near as good as Nuk was... neither is Renfrow


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 4:07 PM
 

> I will say that if Hunter Renfrow leaves, he will be
> taking up one of the NFL slots that another Tiger
> receiver may miss out on bc, I believe that Hunter is
> the best receiver on our team, last season and this
> season!!!

Renfrow ain't leaving....


he is much faster than Scott, and Scott’s career ain’t over yet...

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:17 PM
 

So doubt a Tiger

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:05 PM
 

Good luck Ray Ray. Glad you became a tiger for life.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:05 PM
 

Not a very smart decision... don’t see him going any higher then 4th round

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4th round?***

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:13 PM
 




Would it be much different for him if he waited a year?...


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:18 PM
 

It is a decision he has made based on discussions with his family and the coaches.
There may not be much more he can do to raise his draft stock....we have so many options on offense, it's not like he was going to do more statistically.
I wish he was staying for our team's sake, but am happy for him.


After Sugar Bowl he said he was staying.


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:08 PM
 

https://www.tigernet.com/update/Clemson-players-on-their-NFL-decisions-29176


Re: After Sugar Bowl he said he was staying.

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:11 PM
 

I read that story but also watched the video of him meeting with the media. He never said he was staying in the video so it must have been some other time.


Re: After Sugar Bowl he said he was staying.


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 9:07 AM
 

I didn't get that he said he was staying, either. He just didn't say.

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I sort of hoped for this so we can see what A. Rogers can do***

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:17 PM
 




And Powell.***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:40 PM
 



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Re: TNET: Clemson WR will forego senior season

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:17 PM
 

If artavis Scott went undrafted, I expect worse for Ray Ray. Bad decision.

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:20 PM
 

Ihope not but I could see that.Still dont get why scott wasnt drafted

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:22 PM
 

Did he graduate in December?

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:48 PM
 

For scott’s Size he isn’t the fastest or the quickest. Yes he has good hands and a tough runner and route runner but ray ray on the other hand is quicker and faster than Artavis and has similar size and a more dynamic return man than Scott was believe it or not. Scott was more reliable but ray ray is more of the playmaker and playmakers rarely go undrafted.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:30 PM
 

Everyone comparing Ray Ray to Tay Scott...Saying he is going late . I think he will run in the 4.4's . Remember Tay ran a 4.61 or he probably would have gone higher. I think Ray Ray will show out in all areas at the combine . BTW i am not saying Ray Ray is better than Tay just that he will get drafted higher .


Lazy comparison***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 4:14 PM
 



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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:17 PM
 

Ray-Ray can’t improve his size by coming back another year. At the end of the day you can’t change some things God gave you by another year of “training” for the league. He has good enough speed to play at the next level and his ball skills are better than Cain’s. Look at the tape from this past year. He made plenty of contested catches and some that I never thought he would be able to make. We all remember his short comings of dropping a few punts and dropping the ball before crossing the goal line a few years ago, but he has accomplished all athletically he could accomplish in college. I wish him the best!


NFL corner. Maybe he can excel at defense***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:42 PM
 




Re: NFL corner. Maybe he can excel at defense******

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:56 PM
 

Wishing you the best. We will miss seeing you in orange!

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NFL corner. Maybe he can excel at defense***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:42 PM
 




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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:18 PM
 

Is he joking? Major fumble issues and never really lived up to his hype here. Wish him the best but I don’t see how he will get drafted


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:12 PM
 

We all should never have a negative comment about any player leaving early bc there is nothing any fan can do or say to change their minds. They are the ones that will have to sleep in the bed they made for them selves. I wish the very best for them I really do. But if they fail after leaving early with another free year there for them, please don't bring the tears back to T-Net bc Clemson is trying to win championships with the ones that are with the team. Leaving early isn't something to boast about, any junior can do that bc it's easy. Staying and helping your team mates to win games is special, it takes selflessness and dedication for your team and team mates that has done their best to help each other to be their best for their team for the duration of their college careers.

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get a clue, he fixed the fumble issues and he did live up to...

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:21 PM
 

his hype. He is a natural slot receiver, which are a major factor in today’s football.

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Really bad take***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 4:20 PM
 



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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:22 PM
 

Thanks for all your hard work, Ray-Ray. The best is yet to come.


Probably worn thin by all the morans...

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:32 PM
 

trying to move him to cb.

:)


Good luck young man! Go Tigers.

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Re: Probably worn thin by all the morans...


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:37 PM
 

Some one is giving him bad advice.


Re: Probably worn thin by all the morans...


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 5:03 PM
 

Ray Ray will not be drafted but he is one of those guys that can excel at special teams and last in the NFL for 10 years.. Wish him all the best


Cain And McCloud Came In Together...And They're Tight ---


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:36 PM
 

They will probably leave together too. And wherever they go they will combine their money and live the way they see fit. They will take care of each other as long as possible......thats their friendship.
I wish them the best of luck.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:40 PM
 

Best of luck to Ray Ray and Deon.

If this means Deon truly is gone I'm ok based on what we have waiting to show what they can do, maybe a little more leadership and consistency.


Best of Luck - However - Ray Ray is a Free Agent


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:43 PM
 

He improved a good bit this year, but still, too inconsistent!


Bad decision.


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:49 PM
 

He is not even close to NFL ready.

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It seems like most people here don’t***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 4:21 PM
 



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Ok Mel Kiper***

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Best wishes to Ray-Ray! What a ride.


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 1:50 PM
 

Now...calling Mr. Rodgers! Gonna be special.


I wish him luck. IMO he's still too raw but he has the skil


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:03 PM
 

skills to play in the NFL but needs more refining. I just don't get it with a better QB situation next year and he would still be a starter. Why risk it? A LOTTTT of guys only get one shot at the NFL so it's best to take that shot when you are the most prepared.


Thank you Ray Ray, it has been a fun ride...

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:13 PM
 

Much success to your NFL career and life after a successful career. Thanks for the hard work and memories

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:18 PM
 

Fairly surprised by this, but wish Ray Ray the best. Will be really interesting to see how he does in the combine.

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:31 PM
 

Thanks for all you have done in your playing career at Clemson Ray Ray. Good luck in the NFL


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:44 PM
 

Overrated


I wish him well, and appreciate his years of being a Tiger.***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 2:54 PM
 



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Best of luck RMIII... Amari Rodgers, it’s your time.***

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 3:19 PM
 

I do hate to see these boys go so soon. I say it once, I'll say it again, they need to finish their senior year so that if they did not graduate, chances are that they will never come back and finish. Farewell Ray-Ray, I hope you the best!!!!!!!


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 5:16 PM
 

I woul give 10 to 1.odds that Ray Ray gets his degree from Clemson!


I thought I had read that he was coming back. Best of luck!


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 3:24 PM
 

I don’t necessarily think he’s making the best decision but I wish him all the best!! Good luck! Go make us proud!


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 3:32 PM
 

I hope that means we are getting justyn Ross.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 3:51 PM
 

Bummer. Thanks for everything RRMIII. I think he could have benefited from one more.

I agree with another poster where you get one shot to prove yourself in the league and you need to be the best version of yourself you can be to stick around.

Our WR core is going to be unproven but talented.


This sucks. Thought he was on the cusp of a breakout season next year.***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 4:06 PM
 




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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 5:18 PM
 

Scott got a contract for next year.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 5:10 PM
 

Best wishes RRM. Doubt he'll go 1st, maybe not 2nd. Will open a starting position, so this year will see if the team improves. Hope RRM finds his hearts desire.

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 7:04 PM
 

Surprised by this but I can understand it. Clemson is not a passing offense right now and there is no reason to expect it to change for his senior season. The only way to improve his draft stock would be to have a stellar season catching the ball and that's just not going to happen. Best of luck to him in the NFL.

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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 11:03 PM
 

If we are not changing the offense, Johnson and more will transfer because the style doesn’t fit them.


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Posted: Jan 7, 2018 7:10 PM
 

Good Luck Ray Ray......

Go Tigers..........

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I don't think this is best for Ray Ray, but


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 10:30 PM
 

probably hurts the team not at all :)


Meh***


Posted: Jan 7, 2018 11:18 PM
 




Honestly, a very good decision by Ray-Ray and the coaches


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 2:00 AM
 

He would not get the touches next year with our WR depth and talent. He would likely have had around 30 catches and 250-300 yards receiving, mostoh from of screens and flare outs. Very talented, but would have been limited to mainly a returner role and possibly more defense. He probably won't get drafted, but his stock is as high as it will be.


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Posted: Jan 8, 2018 7:51 AM
 

My uneducated opinion is that he should come back and focus on being a DB. He seems to have a better chance on defense and, by having a full year exclusively at DB, could be a draft pick. Nonetheless, he gave a classy announcement and I hope for the best for him.


no Way


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 9:34 AM
 

He will never play a down in the Nfl
Clemson will be better by subtraction


Surprised, but good luck Ray-Ray!***


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 11:12 AM
 




Sometimes all those stars don't shine so brightly


Posted: Jan 8, 2018 8:51 PM
 

RR never reached his potential for reasons none of us know; maybe he will mature & evolve into a solid player late. IMO, a guy who had 2 memorable moments as a Tiger: the egg drop at the half yard line and the punt return versus NCSU.


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