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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:36 AM
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Surprised to say that I think I'm in the minority here, but I loved seeing Sarah Fuller kick off on Saturday. Why not? I'm not sure what it is that makes some people want to critique the kick and the situation as a whole.

It's not like she is taking a scholarship from somebody else. She was ASKED to fill in, and did what was asked of her. This negatively impacts literally nobody, and positively impacts so many young girls and boys that have never seen this happen before. The hate she's getting is wild to me...

I hope Vandy's offense shows somewhat of a pulse at some point and she gets a chance to hit some FGs.

Monday thoughts! Stop hating :)

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:41 AM
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Let's get the participation party started!

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Re: Sarah Fuller

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:42 AM
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Not sure if anyone knows, but just wondering if her playing on the football team has any impact on her scholarship status or the # of scholies available for football?


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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:49 AM
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I haven't seen anything about that either! I would think that she's on scholarship for soccer and is essentially a walk-on for football, so it wouldn't affect her soccer scholarship

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you can't have a scholarship in any sport and walk on

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:59 AM
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the football team. Otherwise that would get abused. They might have received some sort of pass for this case as they should have.

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Re: you can't have a scholarship in any sport and walk on


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:04 AM
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You're right. I'm not sure what the arrangement is

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Re: you can't have a scholarship in any sport and walk on


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:30 PM
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Found out... says right here she's a "walk on".

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/11/29/sports/sarah-fuller-wants-keep-kicking-vanderbilt/


Wood be nice to find out more about that "arrangement"...


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:43 PM
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According to this she's on a SOCCER SCHOLARSHIP since 2017 (unless they took it away and didn't update this site)

NCAA INFRACTIONS COMMITTEE, anyone???


Re: Wood be nice to find out more about that "arrangement"...


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:45 PM
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Oops, here's the c&p:

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Fuller attended Vanderbilt University on a soccer scholarship in 2017 and became a starter in the 2020 season. She made her first career start in goal against South Carolina in October, making six saves. Fuller started in nine of the team's 12 games in 2020, finishing with a 7–2–0 record, 28 total saves, and a 75.5 save percentage. Fuller's 0.97 goals against average was the eighth-best in Vanderbilt history in a single season and helped the team win its first SEC championship since 1994.[5] In the championship game, she had three saves in a 3–1 win over Arkansas.[6]


Re: Wood be nice to find out more about that "arrangement"...


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:57 PM
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So she's used her 4 years up, 17, 18, 19 & 20 and can still be a football walk-on.

Plus, 2020 is the year of Covid, anything can happen and no one will get in trouble for this.


She may not have any scholar ship. Vandy has


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:09 AM
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A huge endowment. You just have to get in.

My former boss would have paid about the same to send his daughter to clemson(instate) or Harvard. Harvard was just a little more.

Harvard determines your tuition costs based off income.

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Re: She may not have any scholar ship. Vandy has

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:12 AM
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Which is what gives their baseball team a huge advantage and Bobby Hartin bitchs about it on the radio every year during baseball season here in Charleston!

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Re: She may not have any scholar ship. Vandy has


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 2:25 PM
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Not to mention the whistler.

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Re: Sarah Fuller

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:06 AM
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If she was on scholarship for the soccer team, the moment she kicked off the scholarship is now considered a football scholarship.

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So you're saying Football LOSES a scholie?


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:31 AM
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If there was no prior "special exemption" given by the NCAA?


The fact she was asked to kick is getting glossed over a lot***

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:42 AM
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Re: The fact she was asked to kick is getting glossed over a lot***


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:10 PM
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Which is why it’s ridiculous that ESPN and the media is acting like this is something special because girls of already kicked in high school and in college football and she didn’t earn the opportunity it was given to her.

And what makes the whole thing even sillier is that she didn’t really kick it. It was a squib kick. Anybody can do that. An old lady with a walker can do that!

To make matters worse she is on Twitter, and Vanderbilts Twitter, saying it was a long journey and it wasn’t easy as if she walked onto the football team back in the spring and earned a spot as a kicker on the team.

This was a gimmick, virtue signaling, a publicity stunt, because despite the fact that all of their kickers had Covid or injuries, there are probably a dozen kids on that football team that played soccer in high school that could’ve been an emergency kicker. And every team has an emergency kicker for this exact situation. Not to mention the fact that any kid on that team could’ve done just as good as her on a squib kick!

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Several years ago, Palmetto High School had

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:44 AM
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a girl kicker and she was pretty good. She was also pretty pretty, Homecoming Queen.

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Re: Several years ago, Palmetto High School had

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:37 AM
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It’s not every day you see a football player put on a dress at halftime , participate in the activities, then run to the locker room and put the football uniform back on for the 2nd half!! Lol.


The first time some girl gets hit...

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:51 AM
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I mean a slobber knocker type hit, it won't be nearly as much fun and glamorous for them and the player administering the hit will be burned in effigy for not taking it easy on the girls.

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Re: The first time some girl gets hit...


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:57 AM
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THIS... THIS.... THIS.....THIS......THIS!!!!!!!


or this...........

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Re: The first time some girl gets hit...

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:58 AM
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I completely agree, but that's why she isn't playing left tackle. Clemson's walk-on freshman kicker is 5'5" 140 lbs and would get rocked too, and that's why neither one are playing positions where they'll ever be touched

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Once you kick the ball.. you are free game.


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:12 AM
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Placekickers have it easier, punters get laid out all the time.

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Which is why...


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:16 AM
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she made a beeline for the sidelines right after she kicked it.

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Re: The first time some girl gets hit...


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:17 AM
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But even he would knock her out cold And beat her in any sport except soccer assuming he didn’t play soccer in high school. I guarantee you he can out run her out lift her out punch her and pretty much anything else.

Like John McEnroe said, Serena Williams is the best female tennis player ever, but if she played the men’s ATP circuit she would be ranked around 500.

I remember when Annika Sörenstam?, Best female golfer ever, played on a sponsors exemption in something like the John Deere classic which doesn’t even have the best male golfers, One of those tournaments that usually has a very weak field, and she still missed the cut And I think the only players she finished ahead of were players that were disqualified or quit playing because of injury and we’re not given a final score. And golf is a game where women should be able to compete against men.


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Re: The first time some girl gets hit...

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:22 AM
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I would put money on Clemson’s starting women’s goalie knocking out our little walk on. She’s a 6’3” badass...


Re: The first time some girl gets hit...


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:32 AM
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I would take that bet. Because I guarantee you he will still faster stronger and quicker.

It may be close, but here’s what you’re missing, she is an elite female athlete playing in a sport that the ACC dominates and he is a walk on.

The average guy that has never played a day of sports could beat the #### out of most women in a fight. Including elite athletes. Our World Cup women’s soccer team plays against the boys 17 and under team to prepare for the World Cup and the boys kick their ###! A high school boys basketball team would beat the snot out of An all-star WNBA team. The best female golfer in the world played in a weak field PGA event and finished last. If Serena Williams played the men’s ATP tour she would be lucky to break into the top 400 in the rankings.

I don’t have anything against women and girls I love them. But when it comes to sports they have no business playing against boys and men. And male transsexuals that transition to women have no business playing against girls and women either!

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Re: Sarah Fuller

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:56 AM
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I do think some people are hating however it still wasn’t a good kick. It was a line drive kick and probably traveled 20 yards through the air then rolled another 10-15 yards. That’ll definitely hurt the defense if it continues.
I’m fine with women playing if they contribute and have to compete but if it’s a publicity stunt then leave that for the movies and tv shows.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:27 AM
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Never seen a squib kick?


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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 1:29 PM
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...To start the 2nd half?


If women want to play football, they should

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:56 AM
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I don't see why people are so upset about it.

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Re: If women want to play football, they should


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:21 AM
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If they can make the team on their own merits. That’s not what this was!

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Why wasn't it?***


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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:36 AM
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Seriously?

Have you ever played sports?

Have you ever taken a biology class?

What do you think would happen if she goes to tackle Travis ETN when he’s returning a kick?

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Re: Why wasn't it?***


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:41 AM
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She doesn't have any experience tackling, right? Seems like a good reason to squib it.

Or are you also one of the people saying she didn't kick it deep enough?

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I'll answer in the order in which you asked...

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:47 AM
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Yes, seriously.

Yes, I have.

Yes, I have.

I think he would either run by her or through her, as he would any kicker in college football.

I noticed you still have not answered my question though. Care for a mulligan?

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Re: I'll answer in the order in which you asked...


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:56 AM
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What is the question?

Ask a serious question and I will give you a serious answer.

FYI kickers make game saving and touchdown saving tackles every weekend. Any girl kicking would be told to get off the field as quickly as possible because if she tries to make a tackle she’s going to get killed! You know that. Stop being stupid! Stop letting your political correctness override your common sense!

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I'm not being politically correct at all. I actually don't

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:03 PM
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care one way or the other. It doesn't affect my life in the least and I didn't watch a single second of that game.

You said "[t]hat's not what this was!" And I asked "[w]hy wasn't it?" In other words, how are we sure she wasn't picked for her position on Saturday based on her own merits?

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Can you provide 1 single instance where a kicker made

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:04 PM
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a game saving or touchdown saving tackle this past weekend? Power 5 or NFL. Figure there were oh I dunno 100, maybe 150 kickers at work.

You may or may not be aware of this, but a kicker's ability to tackle has absolutely zero impact on that kicker getting recruited, getting playing time, getting drafted, or anything else. They aren't even show how to nor made to practice tackling. AT. ALL.


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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:16 PM
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OK maybe not this weekend but you’re being ridiculous you know what I’m saying. Kickers make tackles often that safe touchdowns and save games.

And now you pick your kicker because he’s the best kicker, but he is expected to do you more than just cake. They don’t kick then run off the field.

Girls are not going to be able to kick it deep enough consistently and they won’t be a safety valve and make a game saving tackle.

You’re being up teeth because you know this is ridiculous argument. You know they’re not as good as boys not even close. And they will get killed trying to make a tackle. Stop being stupid! People like you are ridiculous!

I’m not mad that she played. I just think it’s ridiculous. She did not earn it! What starts getting me irritated is stupid people like you acting like they have just as much a right to be out there as a boy or that they’re just as good as a boy when anyone with two brain cells knows that they’re not!

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Re: Can you provide 1 single instance where a kicker made

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:22 PM
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last thing I'll say:

"I’m not mad that she played. I just think it’s ridiculous. She did not earn it!"

You do seem a little mad. Nobody is nominating her for the Groza award, but it was a cool moment and she did exactly what was asked of her. She eliminated a return with the squib kick, thus eliminating the possibility of her having to make a tackle, so I'm not sure where that part of your argument is coming from.

I hope your day gets better, life is good

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Re: Can you provide 1 single instance where a kicker made


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:31 PM
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I’m not mad she played. And my day is fine. But this is a ridiculous discussion because girls don’t belong on the same field with boys because they’re not as good. And in a sport like football they’re going to get hurt. Seriously hurt!

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Not as good as boys?

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:39 PM
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I mean, elite male kickers are certainly much better than elite female kickers. We can all agree to that.

What I'm suggesting is that perhaps this elite female kicker IS as good....or yet BETTER than the other male options available at that moment.

And no sir you are dead wrong. I don't think for one minute this lady had a RIGHT to kick. I do think she earned it. Over the available males. And for whatever reason this makes you sooooooo uncomfortable.

Dude she it a 38 yarder in practice. At least if you believe the coach. Think that's easy? Go try that 100 times today and report back. You won't even kick it long enough 1 single time to even clear the end zone, let alone up and through the uprights. ZERO FOR 100.

You aren't so dumb as to think she may actually have been a better option that was consistently better than the QBs, WRs, RBs, DBs, LBs, DL, etc are you? She obviously wasn't a better option than the 3 or 4 male kickers on the roster, but they couldn't play and that's not her fault.

Tackle? Who gives a shat? Vandy is ranked 85 in kick return defense, so apparently not many of them tackle well. Maybe a directional kick was in order based on how terrible the game was going, a poor kick coverage team, and concerns over a 4th or 5th string kicker kicking off for the first time. Maybe it has nothing to do with her gender.

I don't think we are going to see some influx of female football players lol. I do think she earned it (granted in extenuating circumstances) and for whatever reason this makes you an uncomfy snowflake.


Hey low - you forgot one of your all-time zinger questions

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:01 PM
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in this list of real barn-burner questions.


Here, I'll do it for you:


How old are you ?


There - try not to let it happen again - K ? Thanks.

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Re: Sarah Fuller

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 10:57 AM
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I'm not hating. I look at it like this, if you are qualified and can do the job better than anyone other candidates available, then you should be put in the job. If you are not qualified, then you should not get the job. Vandy thinks she is qualified, so we can go on that for now. But performance in the job tells the tale. We can't go on one squib kick as the end all, be all. Let's see more kicks and get a larger sample size before making the "public judgment".

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:00 AM
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Remember that time when our kicker went downfield and made the tackle? This is why P5 schools that are serious about assembling winning teams will never adopt this nonsense! As for Sarah and Vandy, well.....good for her because they all play like girls!

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I have a problem with it, because football is a male sport.


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:02 AM
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If women want to play football, I’m all for women’s football if there is the interest and demand for it. I anticipate there isn’t though.

If a female wants to play college football, and there isn’t a team for her, then tough.

Why does everything today have to be about gender issues, sexual issues, race, etc.?

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Lol. Asks:

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:05 AM
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"Why does everything today have to be about gender issues, sexual issues, race, etc.?" right after he says he has a problem with a female playing a "male" sport.


Re: Lol. Asks:


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:23 AM
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If you don’t understand what he saying that I have nothing to say to you because you don’t live in reality. It’s not a contradiction. Besides, girls have kicked in football games before. This is not revolutionary. This is nothing but virtue signaling.

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You missed the part where he wrote


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:58 AM
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"If there is interest for it."

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Re: Sarah Fuller

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:19 AM
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Was glad she got to participate. Not the first time it was done, only first in Power 5. You go girl!


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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:25 AM
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Because they don’t have a male soccer team. And she was told to get off the field as quickly as possible so she would not get killed!

I don’t care if girls play if they are better than boys. But they are not. And how many times have you seen the kicker save a touchdown? She would never be in a position to do that because she wouldn’t be fast enough to get in position and she wouldn’t be fast enough quick enough or strong enough to make the tackle so you’re basically kicking off with 10 players not 11 and giving the other team an advantage. Which is why power five teams that are serious about football will never do this!


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Re: Sarah Fuller

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:41 AM
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If Vandy had played their games with all women this year, their record would be the same. Having Fuller as their kicker at least has folks talking about Vandy football. No harm, no foul.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:48 AM
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Did you know their coach got fired yesterday?

And I’m sorry but power five college football teams shouldn’t be involved in gimmicks!

Do you seriously think if they were 8-0 rather than 0-8 they would’ve had a girl kicking on Saturday?

This was a gimmick, virtual signaling, Publicity stunt, nothing more, by a terrible Power 5 team that doesn’t take football serious!

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Re: Sarah Fuller


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:20 PM
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Of course it's a gimmick. I don't follow Vandy football and don't care what they do or don't do. If Clemson had an 0-7 record going into the game and pulled the same stunt, that would bother me. It would especially bother me if we were told that a female soccer player was our best option. It got us talking, but I don't the harm of Fuller playing. Again, I don't care what Vandy does.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 11:43 AM
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She’s solid on FGs from 10 yards out.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:12 PM
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exactly , don't know why all the haters even care - foot note in the NCAA record book.

They ASKED he to help the team.

All these haters are just wearing panties 2 sizes too small.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:41 PM
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Help the team?

Do you think there are some kids on that team that played soccer in high school?

Do you think they needed a girl off the soccer team to do a squib kick?

This is a very liberal private school with a terrible football team that saw an opportunity to score points on Twitter and with the liberal sports media. This was gratuitous ### kissing and one of the most grotesque examples of virtue signaling I have ever seen!

That’s why I have a problem with it!

But what irritates me is not that, but the fact that people think she earned it or deserves it!

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 2:17 PM
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I haven't seen anyone say she deserved it or earned --- only the reporting that the team asked her for help .

it's really not that big of a deal.

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i noticed that after she kicked

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:12 PM
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She ran backwards ... away from the play ...

Wow if the returner broke free

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Re: Sarah Fuller


Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:23 PM
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You you actually bring up a good point.

Every football team should have a girl kicker and give them a scholarship. Then power 5 schools could take the NCAA back to court over Title IX and have their 85 football scholarships count towards male AND female compliance and bring back some male sports cut because of Title IX.

It would be using feminism against the feminists!

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In fairness.. the coots are basically women.

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Posted: Nov 30, 2020, 12:26 PM
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and have been participating in division one for over 100 years..
wiminz squeaky shoe hoopty ball is their best sport and the school even recently plopped a million dollar golden hen center stage of the run down crack house infested industrial district they play in.
Nobody seems to have a problem there...
HENS UP!

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