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STOP WEARING MASKS!

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:17 PM
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The only way to get Clemson back to normal and reverse to assassination of downtown businesses is a public revolt. To kill a local economy because of a virus that infects less than 10% of the population and has a 99.9% survival rate is ridiculous and immoral.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:28 PM
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You can stop, but I'm wearing mine.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:29 PM
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Sheep. Wake up man.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:32 PM
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Everyone's health and age are not the same, you know. I've had to wear a mask from time to time before anyone ever heard of COVID.

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Are you 60+ or have underlying health conditions?


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 12:17 AM
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If so then just continue wearing it for the rest of your life.

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Well, Texas and Mississippi Governors removed

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 6:45 PM
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the mandatory mask requirement starting next week.

Texas has only 6.5% of its population vaccinated. There is no question that without masks the Texas death rate will soar again.


I haven’t had problems in restaurants and other events where the facility followed the guidelines in S.C. Not wearing masks shows we not only don’t care about ourselves, but also the people that may be infected from those not wearing a mask.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:30 PM
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Texas will see a rise in virus cases. They will likely not see a crush on the hospitals again because the 17% who have received atleast the first shot were the vulnerable. 3 weeks after the 1st shot those folks have a 90% plus protection against getting severe Covid.

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Who is considered vulnerable? If its by age like most states


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 1:16 PM
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then they will have a rise in #s.

The vulnerable i have seen are people who have one or more of the following: obesity, diabetes, COPD, asthma, autoimmune diseases of any kind, cancer, hypertension.

Age has definitely played a part in out patient population, but its the above that is the common denominator.

Maybe thats its just anecdotal. Not sure. But if im right, i'm sure that not many people in Tex and Mississippi have have any of those chronic conditions.

Genuinely, I hope it goes great. We all want this to conclude. ??

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:36 PM
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the mandatory mask requirement starting next week.

Texas has only 6.5% of its population vaccinated. There is no question that without masks the Texas death rate will soar again.



You clearly do not understand what “death rate” means.

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So there is a two mask requirement to eliminate the chance..


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 12:18 AM
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of infection? One on the person that is in need of it is not enough?

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 7:50 AM
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Wearing a mask is meant to help prevent the person wearing the mask from spreading it to others. How is it that some people still don’t get that?

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 10:07 AM
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Thats what i just can't understand.

But some people are just too dumb to listen to logic and facts and rather listen to unqualified, failed real estate developers thoughts instead

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Aside from the fact that the death count is wildly inflated


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 1:36 PM
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Texas's death rate will absolutely not soar, guaranteed.

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How do you plan on backing up that guarantee?


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 2:29 PM
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Maybe look at the bigger picture--It was completely a political move done by a government that completely failed their state when so many lost power during a cold snap.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:58 PM
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That’s the way it should be!

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Congrats, your Port-a-John post was included in the February

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:33 PM
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"Month in Review" on Message Board Geniuses:

https://messageboardgeniuses.com/2021/03/01/february-2021-the-month-in-posts/


Also making an appearance was 76er®

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:37 PM
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I remember reading that gem.

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Worthless Gesture ignites Sheeple Frenzy!


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 11:35 AM
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The programmed Sheeple take drastic measures & sacrifice some of their own, so that gay as eph mask wearing can continue! Scientific data clearly exposes the act as a worthless gesture, but the sheeple remain steadfast and so dim-long live the mask mandates!, long live the diaper faced zoomers!

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Would you come spend an hour in my COVID ICU without a mask

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 1:20 PM
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on?
Truly asking...

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Brilliant!***

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:49 PM
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People fooled by Trump into not wearing masks is the reason we're still in this mess.

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Brady is pretty darn sure


Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:51 PM
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Trump is being sworn in tomorrow. Guaranteed.

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 9:21 AM
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lol

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Yeah, the CDC lying to the American public about not

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:55 PM
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needing masks initially so front liners could get as many as they could has NOTHING to do with it at all...Not.one.thing.

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Do you disagree with the CDC? Trump is no longer an excuse.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:56 PM
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Greenville County-
Population- 590,000.
Cases- 58,000
Deaths- 780

Game. Set. Match.

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Game, Set< Match- you lost all 3***

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:39 PM
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Really? This is Math.


Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 6:21 PM
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Wake up. You have been lied to.

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We all lost all 3 with COVID pandemic***


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 1:22 PM
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Greenville County Covid information as of today;


Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 7:20 PM
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874 deaths

64,238 cases.

Greenville County Population; 541,400

Greenville County is the most populated County in the state, and has been every census since 1900. The City of Greenville has not incorporated more area in a while, so the City is less than 30 square miles.

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Actually the population was 451k in the 2010 census....


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 12:30 AM
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And Charleston County was the largest county in the state until the 1930 census.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:48 PM
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owensdj said:

People fooled by Trump into not wearing masks is the reason we're still in this mess.


NO, we are in this MESS because of China — and more specifically, the CCP (Chinese Communist Party). And Dishonorable Mention to the Attention Seeking Bureaucratic Buffoon named Anthony Fauci!

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:16 PM
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THIS ****

The world wide pandemic lays at the feet of the People's Republic of China and the WHO, headed by China's handpicked chairman. A government that arrested Drs speaking out about it in the early days, when it could have been contained. A government that shut down travel from Wuhan to other areas within China, but not from Wuhan to other countries. A government that delayed WHO investigators for over a year.

How it was dealt with in USA, and how it's being dealt with now is open for discussion. However, can we not agree on who we have to thank for this pandemic.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 6:03 PM
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I don't think a Poet Laureate could describe just how stupid your perspective is. Sheesh! Get off the MSM teat please.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 10:06 PM
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Excuse me, but you are FOS!!

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ALL IN!

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:50 PM
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Hey just explain to me how not wearing a mask will change the outlook for Clemson businesses. Kthx.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 4:59 PM
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Because they can open at full capacity. Students are abandoning downtown and going to Greenville, Anderson, or the Mexican restaurant just outside the city limits. Its killing us. Open your eyes man. This is beyond stupid.

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They can open at full capacity if everyone stops wearing

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:10 PM
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a mask?

I'm not sure I follow.

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Follow this...

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:31 PM
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People are staying away from downtown Clemson because Mayor Halfacre and this cowardly Clemson City Counsel has turned the Police Department (and invited SLED) into a Gestapo like agency. They are told to chase down kids not wearing masks like they are kindergartners in the lunch room.
Guess what? People hate that and go elsewhere. Clemson is dying and we are letting it happen by submitting to this B S. Rise up and save Clemson!

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 7:39 PM
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There are half a million people dead in America already, and you still won't wear a mask. Sorry, just checked. It's 517K. There were only 50K dead in all of Vietnam.

What the @#%^ does it take?

The good news is, it is almost over...there's three different vaccines now with more on the way and by summertime they're pretty much just going to spam vaccines until they've got this thing beat down. We might even get full football back...if, you know, people don't get buck fever in the meantime and start a new wave before then.

So can we not fight pointless culture-war battles before then and give this bug a leg back up?

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 7:00 AM
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Brady...I think people should wear masks and the cops should leave people alone, but I do think wearing a mask isn't that complicated. We can have both. Cops leave people alone and people wear their masks.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:03 PM
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NO!

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:04 PM
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Seems like many people in the Laurens Greenwood Clinton areas aren't wearing masks in public places anymore. and I don't see anyone commenting to them when they walk around in stores. I think you just have to take the lead.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:08 PM
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Greenwood still has a mask ordinance. I was there the other day and the majority of people in the store I was in had them on.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:14 PM
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People not wearing them is the reason we can't get rid of it. Are you part of the problem or part of the solution ?

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:21 PM
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BS. People in the cities that have been hit the hardest are near 100% compliance with mask ordinance. The whole reason there was not a flu season this year was because EVERYONE, EVER WHERE was wearing a mask.

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 7:20 AM
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“can’t get rid of it” ? when will people realize we aren’t getting rid of it. It’s here and it is now apart of our would forever. We can’t get rid of the flue. And though COVID has worse affects than the flue it mutates and changes over time like the flue.

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 1:29 PM
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And the more it does, the more opportunity for mutations, variants.

The lesser people infected, the less variation, the more likely our vax will be effective, the less people get sick and die.

Kind of a win all around for people to not become infected right? Individually and societally speaking.

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 1:31 PM
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So what happened to herd immunity by slowing the spread? It wasn't about preventing the spread, it was slowing it to avoid overrun medical systems. Now you are saying large-scale infection (which was the original premise behind "herd") is worse?

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 3:19 PM
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It is mutating quicker than the flu just as it was designed to do. Buy more Chinese goods.

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525,000 dead!


Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:37 PM
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525,000 Americans have died from it!

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Which is .0015% of U.S population. Point proven.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 5:43 PM
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Thanks dude.

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It's actually 1.5%.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 6:28 PM
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I'm thinking you aren't very good at math.

You can't divide by 100 and use the percent sign.

If anything else was causing a 1.5% death rate it would be a big deal (for example, travel accidents from cars, trains, airplanes, etc.).

Not sure you are proving any point with your rant.

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Sorry, 0.15% or 0.0015 as you used.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 6:30 PM
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Still a big hit to a population for one cause of death.

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500,000/330 million (US pop) = .0015%

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:33 PM
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Thanks for playing.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 9:28 PM
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Over a half-million deaths is acceptable to you? You do realize that figure is more than 10 seasons of flu produced, according to the CDC.

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Over a half-million deaths is acceptable

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 11:38 PM
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Suicide for kids is up since this started. Is that acceptable?

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Actual CDC number of deaths and total cases show ~1.8%

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 7:36 PM
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deaths among actual Covid cases. Counting the entire US population to deflate your numbers is purposely misleading, is it not?

ZERO percent of those who never had Covid die from it.

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Re: Actual CDC number of deaths and total cases show ~1.8%


Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:14 PM
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The other issue with the math is you are counting the people that have actually tested positive for Covid. The real number is that number x 4 which would account for the people having had Covid but never got tested.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:44 PM
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But that number can’t include the couple people I know who battled cancer and died but who were listed as dying from COVID. Or a co-workers uncle who died from a heart attack on the way to the hospital and had a history of heart problems but cause of death was COVID. I know some have really struggled with this thing and some have died from it, but there’s no way those numbers are accurate.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:53 PM
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But that number can’t include the couple people I know who battled cancer and died but who were listed as dying from COVID. Or a co-workers uncle who died from a heart attack on the way to the hospital and had a history of heart problems but cause of death was COVID. I know some have really struggled with this thing and some have died from it, but there’s no way those numbers are accurate.

ding ding ding we have a winner.

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https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Sorry-but-that-is-simply-BSutter-BS-28700051


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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 10:44 PM
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So you’re saying you personally know 3 people who have died within the last year, know for a fact that none of them had COVID, and also that all 3 had COVID listed as a cause of death?

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 12:49 AM
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What's the flu death rate this year? I mean . .every year a fairly good amount of deaths are attributed to the flu. Where are those, consistent, numbers this year?

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Same thing happened with my cousin.***


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Being real, its hard to say. If someone has heart issues,


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 1:39 PM
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does some cocaine to party one night and has a heart attack from the stimulant, know what the cause of death is? Cocaine OD resulting in cardiac arrest

If someone has cancer, gets a C. Difficile infection during the course of treatment, know what the cause of death is? The infection in the presence of cancer


Having a pre-existing diagnosis doesn't mean that's what killed you when listing the cause of death. It is a contributing factor. Flu numbers are listed this way for years. You think only healthy people get the flu and die? But what pushed them to death was the contracting the flu.. its the listed cause of death in the setting of other chronic conditions.

So what's the problem here?

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 1:47 PM
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Your point is understood, but there are some pretty well publicized instances of deaths being attributed to covid that should not have been. And it's widely known that hospitals received more funding for covid deaths than other causes.

Just as you can't say that covid caused the heart attack, you also can't say that covid didn't cause the heart attack. You don't know. So, what's the solution? Call it covid, get the funding.

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Plain idiocy.


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 2:17 PM
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You don't even have a clue what you are talking about.

I mean, why would a hospital not diagnose every medicare/medicaid patient that walks through the door with stage 59 cancer and just go ahead and max out "funding"? They could have been doing that for DECADES.

Covid "funding" is for a) those on subsidized health care, and b) is in line with "funding" aka subsidies received for illnesses that require similar treatment.

If you think for 1 second that MASS FRAUD is happening you're stupid. Some fraud? Sure, as with anything else.

Also, it would be proper to consider that for death attributed to covid that shouldn't have been there likely was a death that was directly related to covid but not categorized as such based on testing not having been done.

You conspiracy people are something else.

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 3:30 PM
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Your analogy is something else too. Is it even remotely possible that hospitals could've gotten away with inflating Cancer cases in the past?

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Oh yea. Sure is.


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 3:56 PM
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Imagine how many sprained wrists that have been coded as breaks.

Think about how many non-issues with hearts resulted in quadruple bypasses.

Get this. They probably take old people with IT band strains and just replace the hip, straight away.

IT'S ALL A BIG HOAX!!!!!!!!!!

THE MEDICAL INDUSTRY IS CROOKED. YOU ARE MUCH BETTER OFF JUST GOING TO SEE YOUR GREAT UNCLE AND GETTING CORN COB PIPE SMOKE BLOWN IN YOUR EAR!

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 3:18 PM
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The PCR tests were run at too many cycles so the actual case nunber is inflated. Since the number of cycles has been dropped for the PCR tests the rate of new cases has dropped.

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False.


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 10:38 AM
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That number is incorrect.

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How many have died?***


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This is unlikely to influence the change desired. Good news


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is give it another month or two

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 6:31 PM
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As someone who’s lost both a close family member and a colleague at work due to this virus, you can kiss my @zz. I’m wearing a mask and social distancing.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:45 PM
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Sorry for your losses. And it’s your right to wear a mask. But it’s not everyone else’s obligation. The collateral damage from lockdowns and restrictions is far worse than necessary.

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You would be correct if your own actions didn’t affect other people.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 9:43 PM
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Plain and simple, it’s really selfish to say “I’m not wearing a mask!” when not wearing one could result
In someone else (or several someone elses) getting COVID and possibly dying.

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I personally know of 5 middle aged men in their 50's that

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 10:03 PM
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have died. Most had health issues, but their issues would not have killed them, at least not yet.

It's sad, infuriating and confusing. The OP must be young.

I wear a mask when I have to. I'll get a shot, but not the J&J.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 7:12 PM
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All you percentages look great until someone you care about (or you) dies. Wear the #### mask until we all get the vaccine. I wear mine and I'm getting the vaccine. I want to live to see our Tigers win another Natty!!!!!!

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POTD!!!***


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I'm wearing one now...

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 7:45 PM
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Lost 2 co-workers, 1 good friend from childhood, and 1 uncle to COVID-19. Smh...

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:04 PM
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While we’re at it we should also not wear seat belts, let’s smoke cigarettes indoors and go naked in public. I mean, it’s America man, the government and the “moral” public health gestapo that are out to get us shouldn’t be able to take away our ‘basic’ freedoms, right?

Let freedom reign...

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Yes, Yes, and Yes

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:35 PM
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People should have free will to do what they want to their bodies...Good or bad.

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Even when that takes away MY right not to have

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:42 PM
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your one brain cell watermelon splash all over my car when your helmetless motorcycle riding, stoned on legal weed body splats on my windshield? My rights to not have to see that trauma should be just as important as yours?

If humans actually knew what was good for them without having laws, Eve would never have eaten that apple and then offered one to Adam.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 8:54 PM
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The tangents this thread has taken are ridiculous. The point is, restrictions, lockdowns, and masks have done very little to curb the spread of covid. This is very obvious by simply comparing stats in “open” states and “closed” states.

Taking off your mask won’t open Clemson. I think the OP’s point is that restrictions should be lifted. We are at a point now where we know the impacts of covid, those as risk can protect themselves, and the rest of the world should get back to life.

The many, many impacts of the overreaction and mismanagement of governments the past 12 months are much more costly than the toll of the virus itself. We will be digging out of financial, social, physical, developmental, and educational holes for the next decade.

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Why can’t you support the businesses while wearing a mask?

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 10:39 PM
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Why present this false choice that seems hysterical. I don’t think wearing masks equals killing the business.

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 11:38 PM
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Consumers are choosing to visit businesses where restrictions are relaxed.

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Consumers also choose


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 10:07 AM
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to kill people via secondhand smoke. Hence, we have smoke-free ordinances in most every major city, including Clemson.

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 1:14 PM
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First, I'm not saying I agree with not wearing masks. I wear mine. I'm explaining the point of the OPs post, which is that businesses are bleeding out because of the restrictions. Those that would be consumers of those businesses are going to competitors because they are more comfortable there. So, no, taking off your mask does not solve the problem. Lifting restrictions does. Or, having consistent restrictions everywhere would also level the playing field.

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Final thoughts on this ignorant debate

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Posted: Mar 3, 2021, 11:08 PM
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We are so ignorant!

.1% is the estimated death rate Annually for the flu (CDC)

.15% is the math currently for COVID-19 (CDC)

Many deaths are attributed to COVID-19 despite underlying issues (Gunny Google)

Do you PERSONALLY feel obligated to get your annual flu shot?

Do you PERSONALLY feel frightened to go out in public during flu season knowing the statistics and facts?

At risk people need to apply risk mitigation steps; everyone else... Let's lean into this freedom thing we tout and have migrants running towards.

Love you ????

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I’m not sure of the death rates, but it’s beyond baffling to me that people are still trying to compare COVID to the flu.

In the 2017-2018 flu season there were 45 million confirmed flu cases in the US with an estimated 61,000 deaths.

So far we’ve had about 29.5 million confirmed cases of COVID in the US with an estimated total number of deaths of over 531,000.

So over 15 million fewer cases and nearly 500,000 more deaths...yep those two illnesses are exactly the same.

Yes, there are likely many more cases of COVID that haven’t been reported, but wouldn’t that be true for the flu as well?

As far as deaths with people with underlying issues, isn’t that also true of the flu?

There are millions of Americans who would qualify as having underlying issues if you consider age, cancer, diabetes, obesity, etc... it’s unrealistic to expect all of them to stay home and avoid all people. It’s definitely a lot harder for them all to do that than it is for some snowflakes to put on a freakin mask for the 30 minutes or so they happen to be in a store.

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 10:14 AM
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that continued spread of COVID would lead to an even deadlier, more contagious strain of COVID-19, that is more resistant to naturally occurring antibodies and all of our new vaccines?

What R-value and mortality rate would we need to hit, so that you feel comfortable saying masks and social distancing are necessary for the general public to adopt?

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Per CDC the normal number of flu cases in the entire US is 45 million with an average hospitalization of 410,000 and an average of 60,000 deaths. Per the CDC website today since September 27, 2020 the total number of flu cases in the entire US is 1,499. Hey at least COVID cured Influenza A and B, amirite???

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 12:52 AM
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Exactly, so all the flu deaths are now added to Covid . .makes the numbers better.

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 8:02 AM
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Or the restrictions from all over the world for COVID including less mass gatherings and travel have stopped the spread of the flu?

Let’s say though that you’re right and 100% of flu deaths have been documented as COVID deaths, we’d still be looking at nearly 500,000 deaths after subtracting the annual average of flu deaths from the overall total.

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Or, perhaps masking and social distancing actually work.

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Novel concept, I realize.

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What I gave you were statistics reported by the CDC. You are free to draw your own conclusions. To me it’s pretty clear COVID numbers are inflated to include many other issues. That is what is called an opinion, something that until the last year or so was not a crime. But nazis will nazi and speech is being censored.

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Why are wearing masks and OPENING things mutually exclusive?

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Should be we be wide open? I honestly don't know. At this point I lean yes, but I have no clue.

I am very perplexed by the need to STOP WEARING MASKS in your mind = reopening.

Shouldn't you just say, enough is enough, reopen! Then you have something.
This just lacks any logic at all.

Y'all, please wear your masks in confined spaces. Vaccines are on the way. Its close and I PROMISE you DO NOT want to draw the short stick with this thing.


Just spent 6 of my last 7 days, 12h shifts, taking care of a 77yo male marathon runner and a 37 yo in shape father, both intubated and have been in the ICU nice January. Old man will die in another month.
The young man is our first survivor of intubation post covid in dozens of patients. Overall are #s have finally plummeted. We arent overrun with new patients,, unfortunately most who required critical care didnt make it out alive.

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In January 2021 about 3000 people died every day due to Covid. Heart disease was second with roughly 2000 deaths per day and cancer was bringing up the rear with 1600 deaths per day.

Unless we had a big spike in heart and cancer deaths, Covid was also the #1 killer of Americans in February.

Unemployment was pegged at 6.3% in January-February which is not good, but it is lower than unemployment for the 6 years from late 2008 through 2014. Meanwhile nearly all economic forecasts are good for the near term and the market is near all time highs.

I wouldn't want the facts or any sense of responsibility to interfere with the desire of the many cult members who push for more people to join up with the Know Nothings and so stop wearing masks as soon as possible, refuse to get vaccinations and pronounce that everyone not in their herd are sheeple.

So by all means, you guys should stop wear masks.

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population because folks are wearing masks (plus other safe guards).

I do wish younger folks could live their lives more - since they are very unlikely to even know they have it.

I had COVID in January - and even if it doesn't kill you - you don't want it! I missed 2 weeks of work and still don't feel "right".

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You are a danger to society. There is an unwritten rule that says do no harm to others, you done broke it.

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We better keep our eye on this new monster that's creeping in. I for one am glad the CDC is laying out a plan early.

https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/zombie/index.htm


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my lifetime, I would hesitate to classify them as "diseases".

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because I think people can do nearly everything they want to during COVID if they take the necessary precautions, which leads me to my next point: STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION. COVID-19 is responsible for 14.1% of all deaths ages 65 and up since the pandemic began, and guess what happens when younger folks with that 99%+ survival rate catch COVID and don't wear a mask? They spread it to people 65+ who DON'T have that kind of survivability. So I suggest you stay in your lane and stop pretending to be an epidemiologist before you get someone hurt.

Go petition town hall to reopen, but do it while wearing a mask and encouraging others to do the same. You clearly haven't done any of your own scientific research into the efficacy of masks, and it shows. One video of a dark room, backlit particulate expulsion test and you'd change your tune. Just another sheep, following the words he wants to hear without even checking to see if they're true.

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https://gab.com/GeorgeBruno/posts/105758392261151505


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libs run the universities these days... you just gotta let


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 11:40 AM
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them get it out of their system unfortunately. they thrive on conflict so if you start pushing resistance to left wing theology they'll just pose even more restrictions. If they're crazy to start with then they wont' understand logic when its presented to them. Just hope for the best.

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Hollywood, they run the sports world, they run the music world, they run the scientific world, they run the schools, they run your local governments.

What exactly are "cons" doing in this country besides crying about their freedoms being taken away and crying on Wall Street? Certainly, the big, brain business minds should be able to overcome their victim hood?

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I wondered how libs got so good with computers


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 2:32 PM
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I mean since they own "big tech" now.

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COVID-19 killed my dad three weeks ago.

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For some of us, COVID-19 has changed our lives forever.

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Biden's last press conference

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Fully agree. Masks do jack sh*t against a coronavirus.


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And it is a scamdemic anyway.

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It's funny, the crazies are the people who pretend that


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 3:36 PM
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nobody died before 2020. Anyone with a brain can look at the numbers and see the scam. This flu season was just like any other, except everything was fraudulently attributed to covid-19.

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Sorry, but that is simply BS...utter BS....

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Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 3:54 PM
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I've asked you before...put up some proof/back-up to the crap you spew on here.

Start with deaths. The mortality data referenced in this article is telling.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/14/us/covid-19-death-toll.html


How do you square your statements with this data?

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That's just regurgitated government propaganda


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 5:32 PM
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from the CDC. They are the same organization that sent out spiked test kits that already had the virus in them. They have no credibility and directly instructed hospitals to count every death as a covid death.

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You either didn't read it or didn't understand it...

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That wasn't a graph of covid deaths, that was excess deaths.

You're either a scok account or a fool.

If not a scok, can you make any kind of cogent case for what you're saying with any kind of proof?

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Oh I understand. They are creating more fraudulent data to


Posted: Mar 5, 2021, 8:22 AM
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cover their ##### for the fraudulent stuff they did early on. I know how this works. I was simply pointing out examples of how they are a corrupt organization and not to be trusted.

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You didn't point out example...you made up examples...

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are you saying the excess death stats are made up too?

I gotta tell ya...you sound really nutty here.

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Agreed. Anyone. ANYONE with an actual brain knows


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that all countries on all continents and all medical professionals are in on the same ruse. Trouble is, there are only about 34 people with brains on this earth. RIGHT?

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Yeah I dunno, I'm thinking he probably doesn't actually


Posted: Mar 4, 2021, 4:12 PM
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believe it.

He just keeps spouting the same stuff, then realizes how GD stupid he is so he just carries on. Deep down inside, he can't possibly believe it.

But hey, he may also be into lizard men for all I know.

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It's the same guy that the Mange, which is about


Posted: Mar 5, 2021, 5:14 PM
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80% right-wing and about 20% far-right-wing, even had to tell to calm down back in the day when Obama got elected lol.

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Flu season was way down this year


Posted: Mar 5, 2021, 4:55 PM
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You won't believe this CDC graph. But sales of flu medicine are also way down this year.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#ILIActivityMap


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