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Minneapolis to dismantle Police department

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:11 AM
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This ought to interesting to watch unfold.
Minneapolis City Council vows to 'dismantle' police department: report

https://www.foxnews.com/us/minneapolis-city-council-vows-to-dismantle-police-department



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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:24 AM
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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:35 AM
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It's going to be fun watching these blue areas defund policing. Then watch the law abiding working class citizens get out in droves. And most likely take their bad voting habits elsewhere, not really understanding why they left where they came from.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:27 AM
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Dis gonna be good. Getting popcorn ready.


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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:30 AM
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I've wondered how long it would take for a community go through with this. I doubt they actually go through with it but it will be interesting to see.


I've seen a lot of people in my community complain about the police practices but at the same time complaining murders haven't been solved. It's unfortunate people don't realize those things aren't mutually exclusive.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 10:33 AM
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Investigating a murder and treating POC with common decency during traffic stop or any other situation, as shown to us white people, are completely different things. Investigators don’t need to abuse their populace, like many in our police who have proven to have no regard for American life.


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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:32 AM
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Is it just me or does the worst areas seem to have been under democratic control for years and in some cases decades?

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:37 AM
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Ding Ding Ding Ding we have a winner!


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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:42 AM
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To be fair, Democrats are often in control of low income areas so they're much more difficult to manage.

The high income areas Democrats control are often great places.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 11:04 AM
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Los Ange...#### no they're all shitholes.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:51 AM
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Yes, it’s just you

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 9:15 AM
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It's just you. But likely many more like you, too, presuming the same thing.
I listened to the mayor of Minneapolis on a podcast recently, and he cited the very strong employment contract with the police officers' union as protecting the discipline/removal of bad actor cops. He mentioned that this had been a struggle across several different mayors' terms. So I suppose that the strongest unions are in northern cities, where unions have a deeper history. But not all northern states are democratic.


lol, unions are HUGE liberal orgs


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 9:21 AM
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unions are their main platform

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 11:18 AM
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As of June 2020, the partisan breakdown of mayors in the 100 largest U.S. cities was 64 Democrats, 29 Republicans, 3 independents, and 4 nonpartisans.


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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:37 AM
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They're not talking about getting rid of a police department. They're talking about completely revamping how the department runs and responds and reacts. Other places that have taken similar steps - i.e. community based policing, demilitarization of the every day force, advanced & continuing training on unrecognized bias, training in deescalation tactics, etc. - have reaped rewards. And they still have an effective police force.


They might do like Camden, NJ did and actually


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:42 AM
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get rid of the city PD altogether and have the county take over policing duties.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camden_Police_Department_(New_Jersey)

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Someone will take it over,

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 2:44 PM
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the county, the state, the people.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:45 AM
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Can you provide an example of a city that did that effectively?

I would be curious to read up on how it's been.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:48 AM
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https://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/crime/2019/01/04/camden-homicides-murder-crime-statistics-violent-nonviolent/2482069002/

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/01/what-happened-to-crime-in-camden/549542/

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:56 AM
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Unfortunately this line kind of ruins it, "The improvement came as crime declined by even larger margins across the state, according to New Jersey State Police."

Similar to how gun advocates always argue that gun crime has come down since the 1990s. Obviously, crime as a whole has come down significantly since the 1990s.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 9:28 AM
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Crime has come down?

I always wonder, do folks really believe that. And yes, I know your going to show me stats. And I'm going to tell you crime stats are manipulated. (Kind of like a football team that reports attendance of 60k however no one believes theres over 30k there)

Not sure how you have a far less civilized society that ever before, and think there will be less crime.


There's less crime. We just see more of it thanks to

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 9:35 AM
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24-hour cable news and social media. Everyone has a camera in their pocket these days.

How is this manipulated?



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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 8:57 AM
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Cincy is one. Plenty more if you Google it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/cincinnati-police-reform/393797/


Thing is, I understand the need for overwhelming force at certain times. Everyday patrol should not be one of them. If communities would pay for the advanced, continuous training, and actually pay cops a decent salary, they'd probably save money on lawsuits because they'd have better officers who are better equipped to avoid excessive use of force claims.

Nothing is going to be perfect, because people are involved and people are imperfect. Also, it's an inherently dangerous job. But the angry kid who just got busted with a dime bag of weed needs to be dealt with differently than the methed out wife beater who has a gun. Each situation is different, and all can be dangerous, but highly trained and fairly paid officers are better at dealing with whatever the situation is.


I see nothing wrong with that approach. I suspect most cops


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 9:28 AM
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would welcome it also.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 10:23 AM
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Seems like Chicago hasn't had one in years. How's that working out?

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 10:59 AM
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does this have anything to do with Clemson sports?

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They always claim that the higher rates of crime in the

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 11:07 AM
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black community are due to heavier policing, so why not just pull police out of minority areas altogether and kill two birds with one stone? Lower crime rate (at least it will look that way on paper) and no more police brutality.

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Considering half of federal prisoners are in for drug offenses


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 11:26 AM
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and black people are almost 4 times more likely than white people to go to jail for drug possession despite similar levels of drug usage, they're probably right.

Marijuana prohibition was intentionally targeted at black and Hispanic people disproportionately from the beginning.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 11:34 AM
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It’s a very small percentage of the population that is in prison for drug possession. Almost everyone in federal prison is for the distribution of drugs.

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Meanwhile, the Sackler family and their enablers get off scot-free


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 11:49 AM
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https://dailycaller.com/2017/10/09/american-cartel-billionaire-family-behind-oxycontin-apparently-spends-zilch-rehabbing-addicts/

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I'm not calling the progressive left 'liberal,' any longer.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 11:56 AM
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There is no liberty in their agenda.

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 12:50 PM
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businesses leave, tax revenue drops

going to be fabulous

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The article reads more like "reform" the PD - which is a


Posted: Jun 5, 2020 1:42 PM
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good idea. The tactic used on Floyd was apparently widely used within the department. Stuff like that will need to be changed...

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Posted: Jun 5, 2020 2:10 PM
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If they think lawlessness will help, their poor residents are in for a world of hurt.


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