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CU Guru [1052]
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Louisville has to vacate their title but UNCheat does not?
Feb 20, 2018, 12:54 PM
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Imagine you are a senior in high school and the big man on campus. You visit UNC and the players there tell you "Hey bro, come to UNC we don't have to take real classes all we do is play basketball here." Now same recruit visits Louisville and there happens to be strippers there that you may or may not could have free sex with one time. If I am looking at big picture as a senior, I am thinking heII I am going to UNC so I won't have to worry about classes I can just focus on basketball, because there are women at every university attracted to big time basketball players.
For UNC to not have to vacate their national championships and now that Louisville does is an absolute disgrace. The NCAA should be ashamed of themselves.
I HATE UNC
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All-In [26467]
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You are assuming UNC doesn't have strippers for their
Feb 20, 2018, 12:59 PM
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players ... they just haven't been caught.
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All-In [30764]
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UNCheat was willing to buy their way out. Luosville wasnt.***
Feb 20, 2018, 1:01 PM
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Legend [16120]
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Papa John should have cracked that wallet, worked for the
Feb 20, 2018, 3:38 PM
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Tarholes
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CU Medallion [51524]
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"Hey bro, come to UNC we don't have to take real classes
Feb 20, 2018, 1:03 PM
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all we do is play basketball here."
Thoughts tarheeledtiger?
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All-In [30764]
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It was only a percent of a percent...
Feb 20, 2018, 1:22 PM
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No big deal. Who cares?
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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thoughts?
Feb 20, 2018, 1:35 PM
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sure, i think you're a small-minded fool who lives in the past
and a clueless hater, to boot
weird to have another 'stalker' i guess you've taken over when CMShack dropped off:
rNet News You were mentioned in a post by tigerdrummer® Feb 20, 2018 1:03 PM
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All-In [30764]
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Very detailed analysis of unc cheating ...
Feb 20, 2018, 1:41 PM
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Well written.. I wonder if your version of the story was presented to the ncaa?
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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nope, they believed J. Bilas
Feb 20, 2018, 1:46 PM
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he made the winning argument in the media, long before UNC did to the NCAA
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Legend [16120]
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Wonder if Roy will return the favor***
Feb 20, 2018, 3:30 PM
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Legend [16120]
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No, I'm still here...Still waiting to hear you say the
Feb 20, 2018, 3:29 PM
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punishment fit the fraud
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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but you're not 'stalking' any more
Feb 20, 2018, 3:40 PM
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TigerNet News You were mentioned in a post by CM Shack Oct 28, 2016 1:08 AM
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Legend [16120]
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How is referencing you in a post stalking? Isn't that what
Feb 20, 2018, 3:44 PM
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exactly what you just did to me? Do you not know what stalking means?
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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i got a t-mail with every mention
Feb 20, 2018, 3:57 PM
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all 20-some of them..
and the def. in SC is:
'Stalking" means a pattern of words, whether verbal, written, or electronic, or a pattern of conduct that serves no legitimate purpose...'
but i guess you don't get the joke... back when i said i almost feel 'stalked'
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Legend [16120]
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It's called a "mention" or an "at"...You couldn't answer my
Feb 20, 2018, 4:00 PM
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simple questions, so you just resorted to calling me a name instead...Try to keep up
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here you go
Feb 20, 2018, 3:56 PM
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'Stalking" means a pattern of words, whether verbal, written, or electronic, or a pattern of conduct that serves no legitimate purpose....'
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Legend [16120]
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But there WAS a legit purpose, so your accusation was
Feb 20, 2018, 4:03 PM
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inapplicable
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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am i hitting too close to home?
Feb 20, 2018, 4:39 PM
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with a silly joke? hitting another nerve?
{you're taking this way too seriously...}
and most of your posts are inane and serve no purpose at all
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Legend [16120]
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No, you're NOT hitting too close to home at all and that's
Feb 20, 2018, 6:11 PM
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the point...You're WAY off...You didn't know how the "@s" work, you are too chickensh1t to admit what unCHEAT REALLY got away with and your joke about me being a stalker sucked...The only thing funny at all was when I looked at your pulse after you insulted the quality of MY posts...Do you get irony?
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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pulse? LOL
Feb 20, 2018, 6:52 PM
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i'm not scared to post unpopular opinions...
or argue with idiots... it can be entertaining 
and i've had a friend... tigerdrummer... TD'ing every post i made for a while
you really put stock in that? really? who gives a flying fornication at a rolling donut?
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Legend [16120]
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You think I don't post unpopular opinions or argue with
Feb 20, 2018, 11:34 PM
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idiots like you?
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110%er [8008]
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Doesn't really matter. Now everyone knows UNC cheats.
Feb 20, 2018, 2:40 PM
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They can lawyer up and side step punishment on a technicality, but that doesn't clear their name or remove the stain of what they did. Their fans can argue all they want, or bury their head in the sand, but every time another University gets in trouble UNC will be brought up.
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All-In [30764]
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I have a niece and nephew who graduated from UNC
Feb 20, 2018, 3:10 PM
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1 is a prosthodontist now and the other is in med school to be a ophthalmologist.
When I see them I make fun of both their degrees from UNC which are worth less than a degree in kayaking from Clemson.
When I took kayaking at clemson I had to actually get in the boat once.
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All-TigerNet [10871]
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Waiting for UL players to file sexual harassment lawsuit
Feb 20, 2018, 1:04 PM
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Against said strippers.
MGTOW
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Re: Louisville has to vacate their title but UNCheat does not?
Feb 20, 2018, 1:13 PM
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Better Lawyers.........Better Pizza!!
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Orange Blooded [3331]
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Let's be honest, only way UNC is gonna get punished is if...
Feb 20, 2018, 1:26 PM
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They come up in the FBI corruption investigation. That may even be a stretch.
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Orange Blooded [4545]
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Re: have a problem
Feb 20, 2018, 2:55 PM
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UNC got the Hillary Clinton treatment, no doubt about it...
From the FBI Director's statements on the email scandal:
"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.
"To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
So, in other words, she did it, we all know she did it--SHE knows she did it--but we're going to turn a blind eye to it. But don't get any ideas anyone, this is a special deal for Hillary!
UNC's lawyers were clever enough to loophole their way around a clear academic requirement by ostensibly offering the no-class classes to the entire student body, so there was supposedly no special benefit to student athletes. To paraphrase the FBI director..."To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a program that engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those programs are often subject to administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.
And surely having John Swofford in your pocket is as helpful as having the FBI director in your pocket...
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Orange Blooded [2683]
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It's not that clear cut
Feb 20, 2018, 3:00 PM
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From your link:
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While student-athletes likely benefited from the so-called ‘paper courses’ offered by North Carolina, the information available in the record did not establish that the courses were solely created, offered and maintained as an orchestrated effort to benefit student-athletes
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The NCAA had a decision to make - would they treat the paper courses as an illegal benefit, or would they let the institution itself handle its academic requirements? In the end, they decided to defer to UNC on their own academic requirements.
I'd say it's reasonable to question that decision, and to worry about the precedent that it sets. Apparently, a university can set up any sort of sham classes it wants, enroll its athletes in these classes, let a few non-athletes in as well, and everything is hunky dory.
I also think it's reasonable that the NCAA not get involved in figuring out which classes are "hard" or "real", and which ones aren't. So I can kind of see how the NCAA came to its conclusion.
I think that in this case, the seriousness of the violations, the appearance that they were in place as a benfit for student-athletes, and the length of time that they went on, would have warranted more of a punishment than was issued.
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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believe it or not
Feb 20, 2018, 3:13 PM
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i agree. UNC should have been punished... the NCAA probably should have done something
it cost them severely in credibility to do nothing after so long
if you read the decision, they made a strong case for lack of institutional control... but in the end they had to find a violation to base it on
on the other hand, UNC was informally punished in several ways
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Orange Blooded [2683]
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Just curious
Feb 20, 2018, 3:26 PM
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What were the informal punishments? I wasn't aware of those.
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You lost recruits who now knew they would actually have to
Feb 20, 2018, 3:42 PM
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go to class? That is your informal punishment? We should all be so lucky...Commit academic fraud for two decades and you lost a one and doner only enrolled for 6 months at best? Cry me a river...You used ineligible athletes for at least 1 title, that you got to keep because you spent almost $20 million on your defense
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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bitter much?
Feb 20, 2018, 3:59 PM
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love seeing you spew your bile
entertaining... yes indeed
but i guess it's better than letting the hate boil up inside and continuing to eat at you?
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Are you saying that I am wrong? Tell me you didn't use
Feb 20, 2018, 4:06 PM
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ineligible athletes.....please
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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according to the NCAA
Feb 20, 2018, 4:37 PM
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they didn't (and I certainly didn't)
but keep trying.. maybe someday if you repeat it enough it might be true...
or maybe just true to you? seems to work for the adolescent in the White House
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Legend [16120]
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quit hiding behind the NCAA's lenient ruling and answer one
Feb 20, 2018, 6:13 PM
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simple question, Did unCHEAT play players who participated in the fraudulent classes?
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Why are you so afraid to just answer the question?***
Feb 20, 2018, 11:36 PM
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Re: believe it or not
Feb 20, 2018, 11:42 PM
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We do know that there was WAY more than just some classes that did not meet!
There were papers written by staff; grades were changed by B Boxill and others to keep athletes elgible.
It was a cesspool of full-blown cheating.
Swoffie lobbied and the Rams Club paid big to buy the NCAA.
So you support UNC (the U of Non-chalant Cheaters) and the NCAA (Notorious for Cheating in Academics & Athletics). Shame on you! You have no integrity.
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Legend [16120]
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So UNC didn't commit academic fraud?***
Feb 20, 2018, 3:32 PM
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Orange Blooded [4316]
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much to your dismay
Feb 20, 2018, 3:38 PM
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according to the NCAA, it appears not
like i said all along, your opinion and my opinion didn't matter, only the infractions committee's opinion counted
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Legend [16120]
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To play a card from the unCHEAT deck, is the NCAA involved
Feb 20, 2018, 3:46 PM
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in academics? Funny, why did the Accrediting board put y'all on probation if there wasn't fraud?
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Orange Blooded [2937]
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I couldn't agree more! How UNC got away with that is scandalous
Feb 20, 2018, 1:49 PM
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Every team in the conference should be protesting their preferred treatment regarding a fake degree program and diplomas issued to players who didn't even attend a class. Remarkable
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All-In [28197]
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after an exhaustive investigative effort
Feb 20, 2018, 1:50 PM
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unc was cleared of any charges - not sure what the problem is?? louisville was caught with escorts, money, etc.
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110%er [8008]
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UNC was caught with much worse, but they have good lawyers***
Feb 20, 2018, 2:43 PM
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Re: UNC was caught with much worse, but they have good lawyers***
Feb 20, 2018, 3:49 PM
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LOTS of good lawyers ....not to mention LOTS of political connections and clout
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Re: after an exhaustive investigative effort
Feb 20, 2018, 11:54 PM
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UNCheat no only had classes that did not meet. They had papers written by staff, for athletes. The athletics staff coerced instructors into changing grades. The admin of the AFAM department gave grades as needed to athletes to keep them elgible.
(Here's an example: Dabo had to pull the scholie offer fro Dwight Jones; he was not allowed to enter CU, because he was considered academically unable to perform the work. He played 3 years for UNCheat.)
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Correct.***
Feb 20, 2018, 2:43 PM
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Clearly they didn't spend enough money, although it also
Feb 20, 2018, 3:34 PM
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helps if the AD who presided over the start of the academic fraud is now a Conference Commissioner who can run interference with the NCAA
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Somewhere...
Feb 20, 2018, 3:54 PM
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Roy Williams and John Calipari are laughing their a$$es off.
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swofford didn’t go to Louisville
Feb 20, 2018, 7:57 PM
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Plain and simple
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Rick Pitino would be totally fair to all schools if ACC comish, I’m sure. *
Feb 21, 2018, 12:01 AM
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