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If the early Christians were going to lie
Feb 21, 2018, 1:57 PM
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about who wrote the Gospels, why would they attribute them to the people they did?
Matthew- a hated tax collector
Mark- the guy Paul didn’t think was worthy to go on mission
Luke- a gentile with second hand knowledge of Jesus’ ministry
Makes no sense and who do you see as the authors of the later “gospels”? Famous characters from the canonical books like Peter, Thomas, Judas, and Mary....
Or why not just say Jesus sat in a cave and wrote it like Muhammad?
Because Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are authentic. Each writer clearly knew the culture and geography of the first century, had first hand knowledge of Jesus’ ministry or access to it in Luke’s case and the letters of Paul which are dated even earlier confirm that the belief that Jesus was the son of a God and rose from the dead was not a legendary development.
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Because they anticipated that some goober on T-Net
Feb 21, 2018, 2:02 PM
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would be able to use it as evidence of Christianity's legitimacy one day?
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Re: Because they anticipated that some goober on T-Net
Feb 21, 2018, 2:26 PM
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Of course....and then they all went to their deaths for the conspiracy.
I wonder why the Arabs couldn’t come up with something better when they were making up Islam hundreds of years later?
Let’s not forget that you’ve made multiple false claims about the way the New Testament was canonized on this board. Why do you feel the need to do that?
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Because I'm obviously either possessed by satan or being
Feb 21, 2018, 2:41 PM
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manipulated by him. He's using my arrogance to turn away as many souls as possible from eternal salvation. But have no fear, Jesus-God always wins in the end. I will be defeated and duly punished for eternity for my transgressions.
So, let that keep you warm at night.
Also, Islam is winning in the soul collecting department. Christianity has remained stagnant while Islam keeps growing.
Good luck bro.
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Re: Because I'm obviously either possessed by satan or being
Feb 21, 2018, 3:11 PM
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Or maybe you just have a habit of exaggerating to make your point. Lol.
And yet Islam is still contained to a small region of the globe for the most part, yet Christianity has spread all over just like those primitive conspirators said it would....Islam is forced upon people, Christianity has thrived despite all the persecution and lies against it.
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It's grown more in Europe than any other continent recently.
Feb 21, 2018, 3:17 PM
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It's growing in Africa, Europe and Asia.
I'm not really happy about it either. But it's definitely beating Christianity these days. If I had to pick one or the other, I'd pick Christianity, so it's not like I'm biased towards Islam.
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Re: It's grown more in Europe than any other continent recently.
Feb 21, 2018, 3:27 PM
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Islam is growing exactly the way you would think a false religion would.
Christianity has reached every culture despite tremendous persecution against it's followers and attacks on it's credibility.
Matthew 12:21- "The nations will put their hope in his name."
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Extremely delusional attitude. Exactly what you expect from
Feb 21, 2018, 3:35 PM
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a person who is so easily hook line and sinkered by dogma.
Christianity spread just like Islam. Trade, missionaries, war and tax incentives.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/rulers/charlemagne.html
Charles's early reign was marked by incessant warfare, which expanded his control in all directions. His longest wars (772–785) were in an area just below modern Denmark, against the Saxons. As he conquered, he converted them to Christianity at the point of the sword.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/encomienda
Encomienda, in colonial Spanish America, legal system by which the Spanish crown attempted to define the status of the Indian population in its American colonies. It was based upon the practice of exacting tribute from Muslims and Jews during the Reconquista (“Reconquest”) of Muslim Spain.
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Re: Extremely delusional attitude. Exactly what you expect from
Feb 21, 2018, 4:27 PM
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“Christianity spread just like Islam”.
They’ve spread nothing alike. Again, Christianity can be found all over the world. It has reached the ends of the earth just like the New Testament writers said it would. Islam is contained to the region where it was born just like the other religions you see on this map.
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thanks to european imperialism
Feb 21, 2018, 6:39 PM
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genocide and the bible came to the shores.
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Re: Because I'm obviously either possessed by satan or being
Feb 21, 2018, 4:54 PM
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It is quite obvious you have no understanding of the redemption of man. Man lived by the law of God, but when God sent Jesus to accept the burden of mankind's sins things changed. At the moment of his death on the cross the temple veil was torn, this allowed man the choice of accessing God through Jesus and a free will to accept God or deny him. I might add that in your case one of the unpardonable sins is the rejection of God. There is still time for you to repent.
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Yes, I've read the same dogma you have.
Feb 22, 2018, 12:24 PM
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I am aware of the belief and I think you believe in something that isn't true.
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Re: Yes, I've read the same dogma you have.
Feb 22, 2018, 8:32 PM
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My friend, I fail everyday and struggle against the same demons that you do. I do have a promise for eternal life after death, so can you too if you will listen to that small voice within that tells you to repent.
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Yeah that small voice told me to stop believing in
Feb 23, 2018, 10:30 AM
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something that wasn't real.
I believe in something much better now, as far as I can tell.
My life is so much better now.
Thanks though.
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Re: Because they anticipated that some goober on T-Net
Feb 21, 2018, 3:13 PM
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No that's what he said.
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Hall of Famer [24847]
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Did you know that Book of Mormon scholars
Feb 21, 2018, 3:59 PM
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believe that the events of the Book of Mormon took place in ancient MesoAmerica? That there apparently is a strong correlation to MesoAmerican history in the Book in the Mormon. I saw a map that showed the events around the Yucatan and Guatemala.
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