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If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 13, 2019, 2:11 PM
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then no one can.
It's either:
-This year
-Next year
-Both
But, mark my works, it will happen.
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Re: If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 13, 2019, 2:16 PM
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This is very simple. Clemson should not have many close games, therefore there will not be many games we need to let TL air it out for 60 minutes. With that being said he will not be able to get the most possible stats therefore a heisman isn't really a big chance for Clemson.
Same reason ETN didn't win the doak or heisman last year. give him the same amount of carries as Johnathon Taylor and he has over 3,000 yards and 40 TDs and is a lock for both. But it won't happen because the coaches want them healthy and for Clemson to win.
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I think he's made his mark already. Tua finished runner up
Aug 13, 2019, 2:18 PM
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last year and didn't play in the 4th quarter all season.
He's that good. It's not going to matter. He will win it. You don't pass up a "generational QB" (the media's words, not mine) for the Heisman.
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Re: I think he's made his mark already. Tua finished runner up
Aug 13, 2019, 2:19 PM
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Deshaun Watson says otherwise.
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I don't disagree.
Aug 13, 2019, 2:26 PM
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But I still stand by it.
We can revisit in December and see which one of us was wrong! 
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Re: I think he's made his mark already. Tua finished runner up
Aug 13, 2019, 5:22 PM
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I love Watson, and he was the best QB in the country during the 2 full years that he played healthy. However, people tend to overlook that he was either 1st or 2nd in the country in interceptions thrown during the season he finished behind Jackson.
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I think if you check the stats, Jackson averaged just as many
Aug 13, 2019, 9:21 PM
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turnovers per game as DW4 did. DW had more interceptions, but Jackson had way more fumbles lost. And fumbles usually hurt you worse than ints. If the voters had considered what was actually accomplished by each player, DW would have won easily!
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Probably true, but Jackson also had a ton of carries and
Aug 14, 2019, 8:40 AM
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rushed for like 1600 yards the year he won the Heisman. I think what Clemson fans ignore is that Watson did not start the season well and didn't really make any sort of Heisman push until late in the year. Considering that the award was handed out prior to the playoff it's not really that difficult to understand why Jackson won. His regular season stats were a lot better than Watson's.
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Re: I think he's made his mark already. Tua finished runner up
Aug 13, 2019, 2:21 PM
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Also watch Alabama play last year, constantly slinging the ball downfield for the big shot TD which isn't how Clemson plays and Tua didn't have a huge running threat such as ETN in the backfield.
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Re: If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 13, 2019, 10:36 PM
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If he throws 40+ touchdowns, under 5 picks, has a high passer rating, and Clemson is undefeated (and he doesn’t lay an egg against every single good team like Tua did), then TL will win it.
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Re: If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 14, 2019, 6:12 PM
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Andre Ware for Houston won it in '89 without playing deep into the second half most of that season.
Houston usually put up 40-50 points by halftime so Ware's stats were still impressive.
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That award has become so bastardized by the voters...
Aug 13, 2019, 2:22 PM
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it's pathetic.
Definitely lost it allure for me.
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I can't argue. I'm still bitter about DW4 losing to Lavar
Aug 13, 2019, 2:25 PM
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That being said, I would love for Trevor to win it and check one more item off the list of "big-time" football.
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Re: I can't argue. I'm still bitter about DW4 losing to Lavar
Aug 13, 2019, 2:31 PM
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I dont disagree but I'm enjoying us checking off the National Championship boxes even more
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Re: I can't argue. I'm still bitter about DW4 losing to Lavar
Aug 13, 2019, 3:09 PM
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I concur.
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You mean"if Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy.."
Aug 13, 2019, 2:41 PM
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..no one can.
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Re: If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 13, 2019, 3:46 PM
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I hope TL wins it next year. Don't want him to win this year.
Can't compare him with DW4. TL is a golden boy in the media which works in his favor.
For this year, Tua may get sympathy votes because of missing out last year.
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Re: If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 13, 2019, 10:35 PM
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Why in the world would you not want TL to win it both this year and next year?
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Re: If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 13, 2019, 3:46 PM
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I hope TL wins it next year. Don't want him to win this year.
Can't compare him with DW4. TL is a golden boy in the media which works in his favor.
For this year, Tua may get sympathy votes because of missing out last year.
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Re: If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 13, 2019, 3:46 PM
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I hope TL wins it next year. Don't want him to win this year.
Can't compare him with DW4. TL is a golden boy in the media which works in his favor.
For this year, Tua may get sympathy votes because of missing out last year.
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Re: If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 13, 2019, 3:46 PM
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I hope TL wins it next year. Don't want him to win this year.
Can't compare him with DW4. TL is a golden boy in the media which works in his favor.
For this year, Tua may get sympathy votes because of missing out last year.
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If by some BS reason TL doesn’t win one, we will have one
Aug 13, 2019, 5:27 PM
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Eventually under Dabo. Just too many explosive offensive players
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I agree. The media is hyping him up. I believe it’s his to lose...
Aug 13, 2019, 8:59 PM
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I can’t believe I’m saying that! Never thought that would happen!!
Go TIGERS!!
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I agree. The media is hyping him up. I believe it’s his to lose...
Aug 13, 2019, 8:59 PM
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I can’t believe I’m saying that! Never thought that would happen!!
Go TIGERS!!
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Re: I agree. The media is hyping him up. I believe it’s his to lose...
Aug 13, 2019, 9:09 PM
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Yeah, he will win it this year.
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Re: If Trevor Lawrence can't win the Heisman Trophy for Clemson
Aug 13, 2019, 9:20 PM
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I agree with Bear Bryant. "We win national championships not Heisman trophies."
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