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I hate to admit it, but Paul Finebaum is right
Jun 26, 2019, 2:46 AM
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The ACC is a clown show right now.
Normally I'd push back on such an assertation, but I'm a firm believer in expertise.
And if anyone, and I mean ANYONE, would know what a clown show looks like, it's Paul Finebaum.
I'd bet my life he watches his own show.
Edit: To be clear since some people don't get sarcasm, I don't actually think he's right, I think he's an idiot.
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Re: I hate to admit it, but Paul Finebaum is right
Jun 26, 2019, 3:00 AM
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The point is, what is his point? We kicked their champion up and down the field all night and then took a mercy knee at the end.
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Re: I hate to admit it, but Paul Finebaum is right
Jun 26, 2019, 3:01 AM
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The point is selling a product to a four toothed Hill bill in Alabama
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The ACC did better in bowls last year than the SEC
Jun 26, 2019, 3:56 AM
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but basically they are somewhat even with the advantage going to the ACC of course.
Last 3 years
2018 6-5,6-6 2017 4-6,5-6 2016 9-3,6-7
total ACC 19-14, SEC 17-19
The SEC always schedules the weakest teams during the season to make their records look better, but they can't really do that during the bowl games so the truth always shines through.
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Re: The ACC did better in bowls last year than the SEC
Jun 26, 2019, 7:56 AM
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From SouthernPigskin.com - Facts don’t match up ... maybe they do if you only look at “part” of the schedule.
Accept that Clemson has been NC two out of the past three years by beating Alabama and don’t make up untrue facts to try and make someone else look bad when your team already looks good ...
2019 strength of schedule rankings for every Power Five school. 1. South Carolina 2. USC 3. Stanford 4. Auburn 5. Michigan 6. LSU 7. Texas A&M 8. UCLA 9. Maryland 10. Iowa 11. Purdue 12. Ole Miss 13. Ohio State 14. Colorado 15. Georgia 16. Michigan State 17. West Virginia 18. Tennessee 19. Rutgers 20. Duke 21. Boston College 22. Northwestern 23. Georgia Tech 24. Notre Dame 25. Oregon State 26. Texas 27. Florida State 28. Wisconsin 29. Mississippi State 30. Arizona 31. Nebraska 32. Kansas 33. Penn State 34. Florida 35. Louisville 36. Texas Tech 37. TCU 38. Pittsburgh 39. Arkansas 40. Kansas State 41. North Carolina 42. Illinois 43. Kentucky 44. Iowa State 45. Washington State 46. Indiana 47. Missouri 48. Oklahoma 49. California 50. Oregon 51. Washington 52. Oklahoma State 53. Minnesota 54. Vanderbilt 55. Arizona State 56. Alabama 57. Wake Forest 58. Utah 59. Clemson 60. Syracuse 61. Miami (FL) 62. Baylor 63. N.C. State 64. Virginia 65. Virginia Tech 66. BYU
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Re: The ACC did better in bowls last year than the SEC
Jun 26, 2019, 10:10 AM
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Coot 2019 strength of schedule is #1 because all the teams they play are better than they are. Coots make Clemson schedule weaker; can't be helped. Too bad we can't substitute UVa for coots.
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Re: The ACC did better in bowls last year than the SEC
Jun 26, 2019, 5:16 PM
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SOS of schedule should not be considered an honor, it's an indication of how bad that school is in relation to all other schools. Seven of the first 20 on the list are SEC schools. If Clemson were to play Alabama's schedule, we would probably still be ranked No. 59.
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Re: The ACC did better in bowls last year than the SEC
Jun 26, 2019, 10:11 AM
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The argument here is that the SEC is overrated and that the ACC is underrated. You can't then use a future prediction of strength of schedule to argue that it is not the case. Future strength of schedule rankings are predicated on the assumption that the SEC is not overrated and that the ACC is not underrated. Do you have this data for 2018 after the fact? That would be a better indicator. (I'm sure it will still look pretty bad.)
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Re: The ACC did better in bowls last year than the SEC
Jun 26, 2019, 11:43 AM
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I was replying directly to a post that addressed the SEC SOS.
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Predictive SOS rankings are nonsense
Jun 26, 2019, 10:33 AM
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It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. The people that say this conference is much tougher than any other because it benefits them financially to do so are the ones ranking the teams before the season which are the rankings used to determine the SOS metrics. You can’t say that’s a good way to do things.
Yes, objectively USuCks schedule is one of the hardest in the country because they play Clemson, Bama, UGA, and A&M. They also have teams like Vandy, Tennessee, Kentucky, and UNC. They will likely share 3 common opponents with Clemson by the end of the season and a head to head matchup. What do you think the comparative records in those 4 games will be? If they were a better team their schedule wouldn’t look as daunting
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New England wouldn't have a single Super Bowl win
Jun 26, 2019, 5:04 AM
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if they played in the NFC South. The AFC East is a clown show.
That's how stupid his argument is. Just because the Patriots play the Bills, Dolphins and Jets twice every year doesn't mean they aren't the best NFL franchise over the last 15 years.
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Re: New England wouldn't have a single Super Bowl win
Jun 26, 2019, 5:34 AM
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That’s a perfect analogy. Well done.
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Re: I hate to admit it, but Paul Finebaum is right
Jun 26, 2019, 6:26 AM
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Part of me agrees with Finebaum however, reading between the lines, he is still searching for excuses for why we destroyed Alabama 44-16. I am all for moving on from last year because it’s in the past but for the life of me I can’t because Finebaum and all the SEC homer/apologist won’t shut up about it. They are the ones keeping the narrative going. In their heart of hearts, they still believe last year was a fluke. Let them keep on believing that and they’ll get a chance to prove it. I believe any team can beat any team on any given day but we have shown through with our play vs. SEC “big boys” it wasn’t a fluke, yes it really did happen!
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He’s right
Jun 26, 2019, 6:31 AM
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That outside of Clemson there’s not a lot of strong football in the ACC.
But he’s using that to prop up this garbage narrative that Clemson only beat Bama because it was so beat up after running the gauntlet of an SEC schedule despite having a month off and playing super soft Oklahoma in the CFP and all these toothless trailer park idiots are eating it up.
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Re: I hate to admit it, but Paul Finebaum is right
Jun 26, 2019, 7:04 AM
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Clemson is only responsible for Clemson. We can’t recruit and coach other schools teams, we play what’s in front of us and the only measure that matters is scoreboard and Clemson owns whether the the rest of the teams in the conference are good or not. When Clemson played two undefeated teams in the playoffs they beat them like an army mule- NUFF SAID
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Re: I hate to admit it, but Paul Finebaum is right
Jun 26, 2019, 7:33 AM
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Hey Pawll and Nick, is the ACC really a "clown show" or is Clemson so good that they make the ACC and the SEC look like clowns?
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If Virginia is part of that clown show,
Jun 26, 2019, 7:38 AM
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what does that make UofSuC?
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Re: If Virginia is part of that clown show,
Jun 26, 2019, 7:49 AM
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The last clown out of the tiny car!
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Re: I hate to admit it, but Paul Finebaum is right
Jun 26, 2019, 10:11 AM
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Clown Show?
In the last four years the SEC is 23-23 versus the ACC. That is the cold hard fact about the strength of the two conferences.
And the brutal SEC schedule that Bama faces year in and year out isn't very brutal at all. Bama has won 22 straight over Vandy. Bama has won 12 straight over Arkansas Bama has won 12 straight over Tennessee Bama has won 11 straight over Miss St Bama has won 7 straight over LSU Bama has won 6 straight over Florida Bama has won 6 straight over Kentucky Bama has won 6 straight over TAMU. Bama has won 5 straight over Georgia. Bama has won 4 straight over Missouri Bama has won 3 straight over Ole Miss.
I tip my hat to Alabama for being the big dog in their own league for so long, but give the 'tough league' talk a rest.
Finebaum makes his money by boosting the SEC. The folks from most of the teams in the SEC are riding Bama's coattails and Paul Finebaum's patter.
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Re: I hate to admit it, but Paul Finebaum is right
Jun 27, 2019, 11:54 AM
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I think pawwwwl is an idiot and agree in the least. My friend you need to go to sarcasm school.
My whole poast is saying he is a clown.
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Re: I hate to admit it, but Paul Finebaum is right
Jun 26, 2019, 12:13 PM
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Every power five team has good football players. Clemson and Alabama just have a lot more of them and much more depth. There are no easy games from a physical standpoint when you play teams that do not as many good players. Ask the players sometimes if Wake Forest doesn't hit or are very physical. Yes, some teams are more physical than others because of their style. I find it ridiculous to claim "we were worn out" because of our tough schedule. They are all tough!
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