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Topic: I feel that our receivers have developed a bad habit.
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I feel that our receivers have developed a bad habit.

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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 10:51 AM
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On the 50-50 balls they are not attacking them at the high point, thus allowing the DBs to get a play on the ball. Am I wrong?


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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 10:52 AM
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YEP OUR RECIEVERS SUCK. LETS GET RID OF THEM ALL AND START OVER. SMFH.

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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 10:57 AM
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That is not what I said. If that is all you can say, you obviously do not know enough about college football to hold an intelligent conversation.


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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:06 AM
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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:00 AM
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They are definitely not Higgins or Ross with regards to high pointing passes or back shoulder fades. They also were not getting much separation Saturday. Wouldn't call it a bad habit, just not developed enough yet unfortunately. Need to get better for when play better teams.


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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:05 AM
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A week ago, Amari and Davis Allen both made beautiful catches on balls over their heads.

That was a tremendous development to me, because when Trevor throws'em high, they're usually fastballs. It seems like against Tech he took a little off his fastball, making his throws more catchable, and his receivers responded.

Vs Syracuse it looked like the heater was back. On the pick-6, he threw late and compensated by throwing too hard--possibly Amari drifted out of the open seam, but TL was just plain late with the throw.

I can't say for sure--i watched on the radio Saturday, so I'll try to get the youtube replay later.


Perhaps a few instances but not habitual. CU’s WRs...

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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:08 AM
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are exceptionally talented, well coached, developed and emerge from The Program with NFL skills. This is fact based on recent history.

Some players have better natural instincts to “high point” the ball , others will require more development. In basketball, some players naturally excel at rebounding. Similar skills.

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What exactly is the "high point"? The high point of what?


Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:31 AM
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I hear that term thrown around a lot but not sure anybody really knows what it means.

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It means exactly what is sounds like...


Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:38 AM
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High-pointing the ball means the receiver jumps to catch the ball at its highest point so the defender can't catch or deflect it.

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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:43 AM
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I think they should change this term to posterizing. Technically if you think about it the ball is at its lowest point when it is caught. Just a little funny thought not meant to be taken seriously. Lol

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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 12:39 PM
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It’s been changed a while ago among the kids - it’s called “got Mossed” as in Randy Moss out jumping you.


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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 12:49 PM
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I wouldn't have said it like you said it; but I know what you mean. I don't think what you are saying fits Amari this season.
Go get it is always better than - wait for it to come to me! In H.S. many of these guys got such separation or were so much better than the DB they didn't really have to compete for the football. I have wondered if that "game-time mindset" sneaks in they learned in H.S. Because, they certainly get challenged at practice to compete for passes!
I have posted I thought Once Ladson gets that - that's my ball so give me that and get out the way "attitude" he would be unstoppable! Ngata had one I thought he "didn't meet the ball"! In basketball sometimes you can't rely on the ball getting to where you are - you have to "meet the ball and go get it"!
I know what you mean - I don't think it's that wide spread to have said "Clemson WR's"! Just a player here/there.

But, we good! These guys and these coaches will get it worked out.


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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 12:43 PM
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I know what you mean though. The nerd in me wonders the same thing. The highest point of the ball on most all down-field passes could not be reached by a normal human. Except maybe Hunter Renfrow. :)


No, that's not what it means. That's why I'm asking.***


Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 1:33 PM
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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 3:29 PM
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Nice explanation, but it still doesn’t make sense.

If you graph the trajectory of a forward pass, In most cases a pass is at its highest point exactly halfway between the QB and the receiver. So if anyone is going to ‘high point’ it, it’s not the intended receiver. On a 20-yard pass, the high point is 10 yards from both the QB and WR.

I think you mean that a receiver elevates to take possession of the ball at the ‘highest point possible within his catch radius’.

Obviously my explanation is not ever the intention of any player, nor the meaning of any analyst. Just agreeing with the OP who thought the term is NOT self-explanatory.


I think a better, more accurate, but much less cool sounding

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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 4:18 PM
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way to describe what people mean by "high pointing" would be to say "jumped straight up, really high, with arms fully extended", because that's what they mean. The player is NOT catching the ball at it's highest point, which would be absurd.

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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:39 AM
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Dabos got this! We don’t have a muschamps on the staff so keep the faith. 400 yards Saturday.


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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:59 AM
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One thing to throw out there is this. Scott has been the receiver coach for a long time. TG is the new receiver's coach. I am sure TG will do fine but there will be a difference between the 2.


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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:44 AM
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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 11:50 AM
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We have been spoiled by seeing freshmen receivers come in and make instant impact ....... Ross, Higgins, Watkins, etc. We forget that may of our great receivers took several years to develop ....... guys like Mike William, Duane Allen, Leggett, now Powell. These guys are learning, so I will expect them to get better as the season progresses.


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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 3:33 PM
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I tell you what, Cornell Powell (17) and EJ Williams (6) are providing great blocks on the edge to spring Amari. EJ is gonna be great.


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Posted: Oct 26, 2020, 5:21 PM
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I have thought the same thing. The best player I ever saw attack the ball was Sammy Watkins.


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