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Great win, but.....

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Posted: Feb 12, 2020 11:57 PM
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Just another prime example of what makes cbbs tenure so frustrating for a lot of Clemson fans. The inconsistency from game to game is maddening....Really bad one night, great the next.

Hopefully we can turn the corner, but if history tells us anything...

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Good Lord***

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Posted: Feb 12, 2020 11:59 PM
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Got a problem with the truth?***

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 12:01 AM
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"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


says the guy who is whining after a win


Posted: Feb 13, 2020 12:04 AM
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oooooh that's rich


Nice deflection, guy***

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 12:07 AM
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"Clemson has been historically better than Carolina. That's pretty obvious." - Classof09

"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


the irony appears to be lost on you***


Posted: Feb 13, 2020 12:27 AM
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He unfortunately has a valid point. His frustration is my

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:40 AM
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frustration. We never know whether we are going to get Dr. Jekyll or MRS Hyde. Exact same scenario that used to be the case with Tommy Bowdens football teams. And, much like Bowden, Brad Brownell seems to do just enough year after year to hang on for another year. Until he doesn't.

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Re: Got a problem with the truth?*** ***


Posted: Feb 13, 2020 8:38 AM
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Re: Got a problem with the truth?******


Posted: Feb 13, 2020 8:38 AM
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Re: Got a problem with the truth?***

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 10:05 AM
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I agree. It feels too much like the TB football years. We beat a FSU on the road on prime time TV to only lose to a Duke or WF at home.


Re: Got a problem with the truth?***

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 1:10 PM
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In which football year did your scenario take place?


Re: Got a problem with the truth?***

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 4:34 PM
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04 Beat Miami on the road and lose to Duke the next week.
06 Beat FSU on the road, finish the year with a lose to Maryland, NC State and USuCk all at home.
07 Beat FSU then lose to GT when were ranked in the top 15.
You honestly don't see the trend?


Tommy Bowden's tenure has nothing to do with

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 4:35 PM
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Brad Brownell or our basketball program.

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Re: Tommy Bowden's tenure has nothing to do with

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 4:44 PM
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I said it feels just like the Bowden football years. Someone asked what years. Try and keep up Judge.


Now you know how I feel.***

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 4:53 PM
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Re: Got a problem with the truth?***


Posted: Feb 13, 2020 9:42 PM
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Funny...you said beat FSU on the road and lose to Duke or Wake. That never happened. Just fact checking you, since you're determined to make the comparison be...factual, even though, as Judge Keller said, they have absolutely no correlation to each other.


Re: Great win, but.....

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 12:11 AM
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Bowden does the round ball too?

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I think we still have Terry on staff. He seems round

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 9:52 AM
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ball proficient.

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Re: Great win, but.....

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 12:26 AM
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What’s inconsistent?

We gave up 52 tonight.

The last three, all losses, we gave up 61, 51 and 56.

Where do you find inconsistency in that?

Most basketball coaches will tell you that you win far more with consistent defense than with consistent offense—because consistent offense is an impossible goal. Ask a very deep, tall, veteran great-shooting Louisville team how consistent they were tonight.

But you keep looking for that Pot o’ Gold, brother, if it makes you happy.


We are 12-12... that's inconsistency in a nutshell.***

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 12:45 AM
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Re: We are 12-12... that's inconsistency in a nutshell.***

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 6:31 AM
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No 12-12 does not show inconsistencies

You have to look at the games
Pts each game
Shot % echvgame
3pt % each game
FT% each game
Turnovers each game
Rebounds each game

If the numbers are steady, consistent play exists

If the are up and down, then there is inconsistency


Re: We are 12-12... that's inconsistency in a nutshell.***


Posted: Feb 13, 2020 7:02 AM
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The numbers aren't steady. We shot ft's, fg's, and 3pt shots, at a higher % in this game. Hence the dominating win.

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Lol, you sound like Karen. Trying to cherry pick certain

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 8:32 AM
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Numbers and use made up “facts” to sway the uninformed.

Pro Tip: doesn’t work on me, KJ aka Karen Jr.

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Keep telling yourself that you're the only objective one.

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 3:53 PM
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If only the rest of us could be as smart as you, Barb!

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The real answer

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 8:39 AM
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Our offense is inconsistent, shooting %, FT % etc and at times our defense looks lost like against Virginia who is a terrible offensive team and Wake.

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:04 AM
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Good point RW43. A lot of folks don't realize that we are VERY consistent with our defensive effort. We also show grit in every game. The inconsistency generally comes on the offensive side where there are nights we cannot hit anything. Then there are nights where we hit 50% of our three pointers.

It looks like that on some nights everyone is making three pointers and free throws and on some nights virtually no one is hitting anything.

I suppose one can blame the bad shooting on the coach; on nights we are not shooting well, it seems like we don't have a Plan B. Part of that is probably because we just don't have much of an inside game with Simms being our best player there. And there are nights when he struggles inside.

BB just needs to recruit better shooters or develop them. Give him a Gabe on the team every year and I believe he can take you to the NCAA almost every year. Dawes can become that kind of player - someone who produces in every game - once he gets more confidant in his shot.


Re: Great win, but.....

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 8:37 AM
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Great win.


Re: Great win, but.....

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 8:42 AM
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Just another prime example of what makes cbbs tenure so frustrating for a lot of Clemson fans. The inconsistency from game to game is maddening....Really bad one night, great the next.

Hopefully we can turn the corner, but if history tells us anything...




You must be a miserable person. Enjoy the win bro.

It's college basketball. It's a game of runs. All college basketball teams are streaky. No team shoots lights out every night.

When you are in the middle of the pack in the ACC you can beat a Duke and then lose to a Wake Forest.


Well, everybody knows teams that play mostly

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 8:50 AM
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underclassmen are known for their consistency. Would you rather us just be consistently bad? Sometimes shots just don’t fall, it happens, does that make us inconsistent?, no it makes us like every team in america. It’d be one thing if we weren’t giving any effort one night, and then the next night you’re playing really hard, but I don’t think that’s the case here, in the UVA game I felt we played hard, but couldn’t win a close game, same goes with the Notre Dame game. And quite honestly that’s been the story with us the whole year, sure there have been games where we didn’t give it our best effort, Louisville, Wake Forest, and probably a bad second half early in the season against FSU. But overall it’s been a young team who was projected to be very bad in the ACC this year, actually exceed expectations with plenty more to prove.


If history tells us anything,


Posted: Feb 13, 2020 1:55 PM
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Clemson will be just as inconsistent next season.


You do know that all teams have ups and downs, right?

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 3:50 PM
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This isn't college football where there is typically at least 1 undefeated team at the end of the regular season, if not several.

College basketball is a long season. In contrast to football, there are a lot of good teams outside the top 25 that can beat a ranked team.

A quick glance at the top 25 reveals many teams that have been inconsistent and lost games they shouldn't.

I suspect that you're going to respond by saying that we are more inconsistent that most teams. I suppose that depends on who you are comparing us to, and what you feel is an acceptable number of losses to teams you shouldn't lose to. So please, tell us that magic number so we can know when Clemson is meeting your expectations for consistency and when they are not.

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Re: You do know that all teams have ups and downs, right?

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Posted: Feb 13, 2020 11:21 PM
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When I consider how 'consistent' our consistently critical fans are, I'm thrilled that our basketball team is inconsistent.

At least they're good half the time.

That's more than I can say for our fans.


Re: "consistent" fans

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Posted: Feb 14, 2020 8:14 AM
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What?

No responses?

You can give TDs, but no rebuttals? You're not Tigers. You're pu$$cats. And you're consistently bad fans.


Is this directed toward Judge Keller?

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Posted: Feb 14, 2020 10:22 AM
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Not nice

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Re: Is this directed toward Judge Keller?

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Posted: Feb 14, 2020 12:31 PM
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No.

Toward consistently negative fans. He is rarely negative.

But I’m not naming people anymore since I apparently downspouted somebody last time I did that. (Or whatever pop psychology internet-based no-no I committed.)


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Posted: Feb 14, 2020 12:35 PM
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“If history tells us anything”....

It tells us we will be looking backwards trying to find fault with the coach when the corner is turned, so most of us won’t know it has occurred.


What? Are you insinuating that getting to 12-12 is turning


Posted: Feb 15, 2020 9:46 AM
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The corner?

Is that the same corner we turned when beating duke before regressing, per the usual?

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"No one knew we were overhyped until the season started." - Classof09


No, Barb, that’s not what he’s saying.


Posted: Feb 15, 2020 11:35 AM
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Please try to keep up.

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