Front Page Story: Tim Boyd on Tajh: Cut down on interceptions, beat South Carolina
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Front Page Story: Tim Boyd on Tajh: Cut down on interceptions, beat South Carolina
Jun 3, 2013, 11:23 AM
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Orange Blooded [2507]
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Had we kept running the ball like on that pic we win
Jun 3, 2013, 11:28 AM
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The zone read ate Clowney up all game and yet we stopped doing it. Makes no sense. You don't stop running the ball unless they other teams forces you to do so. Same thing happened in the FSU game.
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Morris likes to keep it 50-50
Jun 3, 2013, 11:58 AM
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I've seen the same thing in these games like you did but again I am no Morris and neither are you. I felt that if we kept running it, we would have won at least one of those games.
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Re: Morris likes to keep it 50-50
Jun 4, 2013, 3:45 PM
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I think that's great and I like to stay 50 / 50 too, but it would have been nice for the headcoach or someone to say, let run it at Clowney a few more downs per series to keep him out of our backfield. Not too mention he locks in on a QB and you can run right by him, unless he shifts inside and you leave him uncovered AKA Michigan. Guy gets more air time for basically tackling a tackling dummy with his eyes closed. He can be completely neutralized if you run it at him enough. Not to mention we will have some nice sized backs pick him up. Loved AE, but he was a little undersized to take on some defenders. Although that didn't stop him from laying a lick on them.
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Re: Had we kept running the ball like on that pic we win
Jun 3, 2013, 9:35 PM
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So what are you saying? That Morris is not smart enough to stay with a 'winning' game plan? C'mon! Quit making that same old tired excuse. Ward starting loading the box so we couldn't run on them. Otherwise, we would need to get rid of 'the Chad' for not figuring out what it takes to win.
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Re: Front Page Story: Tim Boyd on Tajh: Cut down on interceptions, beat South Carolina
Jun 3, 2013, 11:33 AM
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we've had some good qb - wr duos but I think TB and Nuk is about our best. It wasnt just statistics either. Sometime the D would know where the ball was going and couldnt stop it. The 4-16 just typlifes that
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The numbers say you are right, but Fuller/Butler get my vote***
Jun 3, 2013, 5:01 PM
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Trying to remember an interception that cost us a win.
Jun 3, 2013, 11:40 AM
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I'm all in agreement that fewer interceptions is a worthy goal, but honestly, our losses last year were not directly attributable to Tajh throwing picks and I disagree that cutting his interception total in half would have resulted in two more wins.
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There were 2 interceptions that cost us
Jun 3, 2013, 11:43 AM
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scoring chances...one in each half...main culprit however in the coot game was our endless failures on 3rd down defense.
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Exactly ... we couldn't stop them and they stopped us.
Jun 3, 2013, 12:08 PM
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Running only 59 plays was a big part of it and the reason we only ran 59 was because we couldn't get SCAR offense off the field.
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had a pretty big one late in USUC game with us only down 3
Jun 3, 2013, 11:46 AM
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not sure if we would have scored, but that cost us atleast the chance of go ahead or tying. It also gave USUC the ball back with good field position against a tired defense. They ended up scoring their last td on this drive for the 10 pt lead.
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also, didnt he have one late against FSU that gave them
Jun 3, 2013, 11:50 AM
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the ball inside of field goal range. Now im not laying these losses on him cause I think there was definitely more glaring issues in those games, but you never know how a play here or there can change momentum in a hurry due to our style of offense.
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94 yard KO return was the nail in coffin vs FSU.
Jun 3, 2013, 12:09 PM
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Picks didn't help for sure, but we were on the plus side of turnovers in both our losses, I believe.
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agree that they were not solely on is shoulders
Jun 3, 2013, 12:30 PM
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but if you ask the question "what if" he didnt throw the pick could the outcome have changed to a win and the answer is yes it could have led to wins (it may not have but it could have)
In FSU we are only down 42-31 with 13 minutes left, they intercept and take 49-31 lead. If he hadnt thrown the pick, we are still within 2 scores. A score of any kind there would have stopped their momentum and would have maybe put them back on their heals. Instead we throw a pick and give them more momentum. If you say no way, look at LSU game to see what could have happened. Imagine the LSU outcome if instead of getting that first td to get the ball rolling he throws an interception instead.
USUC game we are down 3 with the ball, our defense is gassed and he throws a pick giving them good field position and putting an already tired defense back on the field. Even if we didnt score we could have given the defense a little more breathing time and could have punted to make them go the whole field to score.
Again, I want to stress that I am not saying these losses were solely his fault, I fully realize other things played into us losing these games. I am just pointing out that his dad's statement could be correct that if not for a few interceptions we possibly could have won the games we lost. Momentum can do strange things.
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Re: agree that they were not solely on is shoulders
Jun 3, 2013, 8:31 PM
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I really do not want to be negative, but Boyd's most glaring weakness is his inability to check down and scan the field. In the spring game, Victor Beasley mentioned this after he intercepted two of Boyd's passes. The defensive coordinator at South Carolina noticed the same thing and he set his defense with this weakness in mind. I just hope that Boyd learns to throw the ball away before he stares down a receiver and the defensive backs just watch his eyes.
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Re: Had we kept running the ball like on that pic we win
Jun 3, 2013, 11:40 AM
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I agree 100%
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Game plan
Jun 3, 2013, 11:43 AM
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Def wasnt tajh's fault we lose those 2 games. We were running by clowney but the change in game plan to go for throat every play and throw the ball put the game in clowneys hands!
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game plan, so we can pin that on the coaching staff....I do***
Jun 3, 2013, 11:54 AM
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I think a 3-1 TD-INT ratio is pretty good. You'd always like
Jun 3, 2013, 12:38 PM
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to see fewer picks but when he's throwing that many passes (and TDs) it's not that big of a deal.
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Re: I think a 3-1 TD-INT ratio is pretty good. You'd always like
Jun 4, 2013, 5:44 PM
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Throw fewer interceptions, and beat USC. Wow! Glad to have a peek into the mind of a genius.
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Re: Front Page Story: Tim Boyd on Tajh: Cut down on interceptions, beat South Carolina
Jun 3, 2013, 12:41 PM
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It upsets me he is so focused on beating South Carolina. Thats how you lose ballgames is over thinking it. We have the team to beat them, we don't need to ponder it all year long, especially our gunslinger. A few years back it wasn't even a worry. Times are changing here in Pickens
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Re: Front Page Story: Tim Boyd on Tajh: Cut down on interceptions, beat South Carolina
Jun 3, 2013, 1:46 PM
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I agree that Boyd should not focus on SUCK at this time - plenty of time for that later. However, somewhere in the back of Boyd's mind has to be the thought that he could go down in the record books as one of the greatest CLEMSON QB's of all time - but could NOT beat SUCK. At least I would be that way. By now, Boyd and all of our coaches should understand that beating SUCK is important to our fans. Just saying.
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Run the football, beat South Carolina. Our coaches lost that
Jun 3, 2013, 2:11 PM
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game.
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Re: Front Page Story: Tim Boyd on Tajh: Cut down on interceptions, beat South Carolina
Jun 3, 2013, 3:42 PM
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I guess you can say it either way - had the offense kept the ball more, the defense would have been better off OR if the defense had stopped the other team more, the offense would have had more chances. Football is a team sport. Also, I agree with whoever said the "we" are over thinking this. You don't play team logos or school names, you play against other players and coaches. If you win the battles with the scheme and the individual players, you win. If not, the other team wins.
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+1.***
Jun 3, 2013, 3:56 PM
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Better footwork---his back foot throws keep going high
Jun 3, 2013, 8:46 PM
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Going to get a receiver killed going over the middle. This would also cut down on the INTs.
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