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Charleston King Street post riot report

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Posted: May 31, 2020 9:59 AM
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Pardon my rambling on but here goes. Its 9:45am Sunday morning. There are few things I love more than downtown Charleston. I have a tour related company here and what took place last night brought tears to me eyes. So I went to King Street this morning at 6:45am to help store owners clean up. I cruised King from Columbus Street to Broad Street to see who needed help the most. South of Calhoun Street there was very little damage. The Apple store took a big hit (glass windows blown out and computers and other merchandise looted) and one other local antique store also took a hit (only glass windows blown out, no looting). Upper King is a different story. Most stores had windows broken and some had looting inside (this is from Hutson to Cannon Street). North of Spring was pretty much untouched. When I got there at 6:45am there were less than 20 people cleaning their stores. By 7:45am there were thousands helping with the clean up, mostly just local volunteers wanting to help out and not store employees. They were putting all trash, glass, etc. on the curb. By 8:15 virtually ALL trash in the street and sidewalks were gone. The City had the trash trucks running picking up all curbside trash that volunteers put there. It was AMAZING to see all helping out. There were all ages and all races. But most seemed to be C of C or under 30 year old girls. Made me proud. One car was going down King simply handing out water bottles to all volunteers.
A store called King Market at corner of King and Cannon was also hit. Strange fact is it is a black owned business.

Word is the people causing the problems were not protesters but Black Lives Matter people out of Atlanta (not confirmed yet) doing the rioting, breaking glass. Then some locals took their lead and did as they did.

A possible very sad note. I was talking to a guy who was downtown during the rioting, I was not. He said a former Clemson football great (I will not pass on the name) was in Hall's Chop House eating last night when some of these thugs broke in. Hall's is on King one block north of Hutson. When the rioters broke in breaking glass, throwing bricks and endangering lives this former Clemson player took issue and began to physically stand his ground and maybe even charged these thugs. The thugs in turn ganged up on him and began beating him with a club of some sort. He was over powered by the shear number of people ganging up on him. The bartender saw what was happening and pulled out a gun and fired it up in the air shooting several rounds to clear the thugs out. This also is NOT confirmed. That is why I am not releasing his name. I do know him but do not have his cell number to check up on him. But I do know that shots WERE fired from that area last night. I have the video.

Charleston will be OK. People are coming together just like they do after a hurricane and after the Emanuel AME shooting.


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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:07 AM
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The bartender should have shot the thugs. SC law supports that when one is in fear of his life or lives of others in his immediate presence.


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There is no enforcement of the law. We have entered

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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:15 AM
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lawlessness territory. I'd rather be judged by a jury of 12 then carried by 6.

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Posted: May 31, 2020 2:00 PM
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premise behind:

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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:49 PM
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Columbia did a heck of a job today. Police controlled every situation, the curfew area was a ghost town at 6. They were out in force and did not budge. The moved the crowd, the crowd did not move them.

And the protestors were by and large actual protestors, not riotous


Stand your ground law

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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:46 AM
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That's what you're referencing.

It's only a matter of time before somebody decides to act in self defense...canyon believe it hasn't happened already. A lot of bad people are going to die if and when the cork ever comes off that bottle. Black lives matter, antifa, etc...they'll be the first ones people go after.

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Posted: May 31, 2020 12:20 PM
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Be careful putting wrong info out there. "Stand Your Ground" laws are only recognized by a few states. Most states people have a duty to retreat. Only when retreat is not an option and you feel that great bodily harm or death is imminent can you use deadly force to save yourself, family or even a complete stranger but you better make sure you know the law. SC is NOT a Open Carry state so if you are carrying you better have a CWP. Thats why right now is NO better time to not only get your CWP's but make sure your family is trained and proficient with a gun and above all else make sure they know the laws.


Castle Doctrine in SC...


Posted: May 31, 2020 2:00 PM
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The Castle Doctrine (also known as castle law or make my day law) gives citizens in their homes – and in some states – cars or workplaces the right to protect themselves, other people, and their property by force – in some instances even deadly force.

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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:13 AM
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Thanks for the update TC. Great to see people coming together to help each other. We’re supposed to have protests in Conway and MB today. Hoping for the best.

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I guess they scheduled Myrtle Beach today so the Atlanta crew

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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:17 AM
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time to travel up from Charleston.

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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:25 AM
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Just some of the helpers


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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:29 AM
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Oh dear, so sorry to hear this. Certainly dishonors the cause that needs to be the focus. My question, were the police present and were they making arrests of looters and those causing property damage? I have no tolerance for this kind of behavior. Thieves and civic protestors aren't related.


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Posted: May 31, 2020 12:57 PM
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Police were greatly outnumbered by the protesters and rioters. At 10:45pm last night police began enforcing the 11pm curfew with tear gas and pepper spray.


From this point on this should be dealt with the same way if

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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:31 AM
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A terrorist group from Afghanistan we’re doing these acts of violence. We would not be passively standing in riot gear. All we are doing is ensuring that this or worse happens again. And it’ll probably happen again bc there is always going to be an officer who goes too far and apparently our laws and processes aren’t fast enough. So these riots will happen again bc these antifa groups will make sure of it. You can’t keep allowing these mass protests, they don’t work anymore.


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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:35 AM
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I understand your point. Yet we willingly negotiate with the Taliban. So its hard to take anything we do seriously

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Posted: May 31, 2020 10:40 AM
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My fiance was down there this morning with you helping clean up. Unfortunately i couldn't make it, but good on you for helping.
I saw the video from halls last night and saw someone pull a gun coming out the front door after rioters threw trashcans at the window. I didn't see any rounds fired off or anyone getting beat up though. Perhaps the news vid only caught the aftermath of the beatdown. I believe i know who the former Clemson player is you're talking about. Crazy times. An on duty Chas city officer got jumped and beat up in front of hotel Bennett as well. That could've turned real bad, real quick but the officer jumped up and ran away instead. He showed a lot of restraint in that scenario.


Perhaps too much restraint?***

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Posted: May 31, 2020 11:32 AM
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Posted: May 31, 2020 12:35 PM
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Perhaps....had that continued several seconds longer, we might be talking about a different outcome.


CBS Live 5 News...

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Posted: May 31, 2020 11:25 AM
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has a video out with all the damage that was done last night.Sad for those store owners because their lives have been turned upside down because of this...https://www.live5news.com/2020/05/31/daylight-reveals-extent-damage-downtown-after-protest-turns-riot/


Most still not wearing masks, Covid-19 had done much damage


Posted: May 31, 2020 12:10 PM
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to the businesses and has increased dramatically in last 2 weeks since re-opening

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Posted: May 31, 2020 12:55 PM
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Good post but don’t mention a former Clemson football player being attacked if you are not going to give a name. Might as well not even mention it


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Posted: May 31, 2020 1:05 PM
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The Jesse Jackson's, Al Sharpton's, and other so called black leaders need to step up. Most of the violent and looting scenario's belong to blacks according to the videos. The media will not mention that because of fear of being labelled a racist. Black leaders need to step up to the plate. You will also notice that nearly all of the volunteers cleaning up are whites. Label me a racist if you want but I am not. Did social work for many, many years and most of the people I helped were black. Until law enforcement starts acting, arresting, jailing, and fining, it is not going to stop.

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Posted: May 31, 2020 1:47 PM
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Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are no more leaders of the “black community” than Rachel Maddow and Rush Limbaugh are leaders of the white community. Until justice is meted out equally, why should they stop?


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Posted: May 31, 2020 1:56 PM
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well don't you have to let Justice work to determine if it's even or not? Rioting isn't justice, doesn't further justice, doesn't do anything but wreck the lives of people, owners, employees, patrons...

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Posted: May 31, 2020 2:06 PM
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There is already a history established of justice not working for black people. As they say, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. If peaceful protests have been ignored or criticized (e.g. Kapernick), what do you think is the logical alternative? Clearly, the riots have America’s attention, and this is now a problem that impacts all Americans rather than just black people.


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Posted: May 31, 2020 4:51 PM
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I've got a better definition for you: the definition of immaturity: the inability to consider alternative solutions to a problem.

So Kaepernick protests peacefully, and people don't like it. Then another tragic police killing occurs--out of the 1100 deaths by cops every year. So your suggested alternative is to wreck what's left of the businesses in our country?

You represent an immature generation. I hope your immaturity doesn't represent any particular racial group or demographic, or the whole concept of equality is a pipe dream in all but the most legal sense.

You, my immature but hopefully willing to mature friend, are not equal in terms of importance to your community as those business owners on King St, the volunteers doing cleanup or the protestors marching peacefully.

You had best learn to respect the community in which you live. Lawlessness only works when you catch people unprepared. Woe to the lawless who prey on the same people twice.


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Posted: May 31, 2020 6:17 PM
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If you can’t connect the dots from historic injustice to what you’re seeing on the streets right now, then perhaps you’re not as mature as you think you are. “They close up their callous hearts, and their mouths speak with arrogance.”
??Psalms? ?17:10? ?


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Posted: May 31, 2020 7:42 PM
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Sadly for them, the so-called arbiters of evening social injustice will lose big again and again.

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Re: definition of insanity


Posted: Jun 1, 2020 9:58 PM
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Here is a thought. Quitbreaking the law and you won'thave to worry about the police.

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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 10:04 PM
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Right. That worked out so well for Tamir Rice, John Crawford, and a long list of others. Of course, I’m sure that’s of little concern for you.


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Posted: Jun 6, 2020 4:35 PM
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You are right it doesn't concern me because I am concerned about all the other killings done by police and other people to each other that nothing is ever said about. Just like the black man that killed 2 elderly white people in a Delaware cemetary. Where is the out cry for that? Read the story and race is not mentioned one time because the shooter was black. Reverse the roles and see how the story reads. I'm sick and tired of the double standard so pardon me if I fail to care about someone else getting shot when other innocent people of different races don't get the same respect.

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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 3:10 AM
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Immature: it is chaotic, childlike, attention seeking behavior; & in the case of children, when it is rewarded, becomes learned behavior, & repeated-


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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 8:57 PM
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Immature as in tear gassing peaceful protesters so that you can have a photo opportunity in front of a church?


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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 2:03 AM
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The better things have gotten for blacks over the last 60 years the more the ne'er do wells of that community have misbehaved and disrespected whites, other blacks, and themselves. Whitey can only do so much and the more Whitey helps the angrier blacks get . It's coming to an end.

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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 9:11 PM
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I’m sure you would be much happier if they would just stay in their place. Your sheet is showing.


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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 10:00 PM
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No it would make us happy if they quit acting like criminals and gangstas. The black community brings a lot of this on themselves. White people don't make you criminals. That is a choice.

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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 10:15 PM
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Perhaps you didn’t realize that the vast majority of crimes are committed by white people. I’m sorry to interfere with your stereotypes and prejudice.


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Posted: Jun 6, 2020 4:49 PM
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Obviously reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said the black community brings most of this on themselves. Did I say anything about black people committing more crimes than white people? Learn to read and comprehend before you enter a discussion.

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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 10:15 PM
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Perhaps you didn’t realize that the vast majority of crimes are committed by white people. I’m sorry to interfere with your stereotypes and prejudice.


That's a straight up lie. Despite making up a much larger


Posted: Jun 6, 2020 7:05 PM
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percentage of the population whites do not commit the majority, much less the vast majority of crime, especially violent crime.

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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 10:15 PM
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Perhaps you didn’t realize that the vast majority of crimes are committed by white people. I’m sorry to interfere with your stereotypes and prejudice.


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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 7:59 AM
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Perhaps you didn’t realize that the vast majority of crimes are committed by white people. I’m sorry to interfere with your stereotypes and prejudice.




That's a stupid statement. If you start coloring crime you need to separate it by percentage of the population. Then it starts to get clear. George Floyd is the very least of the AA population worries. Blacks are destroying themselves from within with drugs and crime. Black leaders do nothing to help the situation because they are too busy exploiting what they in truth don't want to go away. Same for liberals and socialists. Without black unrest they have nothing to talk about. I have no tolerance for things like the Floyd incident happening. It should be punished. But if you are a root cause type person you have to ask, why was he on the ground in the first place. Why are these guys getting arrested so much? Oh, right, they are being targeted.


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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 12:18 AM
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A stupid officer killed a black man. White people die in police custody as well. The legal system will work. The system, by design, works slowly. Let the system work. Quit acting like fools.


Ah yes, classic Chaaahhhl-stun approach to blame problems

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Posted: May 31, 2020 1:29 PM
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on outsiders from the “big city,” rather than addressing the issues in their own backyard.

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Re: Ah yes, classic Chaaahhhl-stun approach to blame problems

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Posted: May 31, 2020 1:54 PM
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Classic Charleston approach? ### are you talking about? You don't have a clue. You just keep eating at Hymans when you visit and leave city issues to us locals.


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Posted: May 31, 2020 2:21 PM
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That’s awesome right there

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Exhibit A.


Posted: Jun 1, 2020 9:38 AM
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Thank you for proving my point.

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Prove your point?

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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 10:08 AM
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He didn’t blame you, an outsider, for Charleston’s problems, he simply pointed out your ignorance of Charleston, complete with an example.




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I lived in Charleston for five years.


Posted: Jun 2, 2020 12:33 AM
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So I’m not ignorant about it at all. Way to assume and jump to conclusions, Frances!

I find it to be a charming city, with lots of history and great restaurants. It’s a fun place to visit. But in my experience, both as a resident and a visitor,
many Charlestonians are overly proud of their city and fail to see it through an objective lens.

The fact that a Charleston resident responded so harshly to my post is a wonderful example of that.

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Overly proud? Objective lens?

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 7:21 AM
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Are we talking about Charleston, or CBB?
The fact that you respond so harshly to any post critical of CBB is a wonderful example of that. It’s ok for you defend something you’re proud of, but it’s a fault if others do the same.

And there is no such thing as being too proud of your hometown. That’s maybe the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard you say, and that’s saying a lot. Maybe you’ll later tell us this was a joke. I sure hope so. It sounds like you tried to sound knowledgeable about Charleston, but got called on it, now you’re lashing out. It’s a common theme in your posting history.

Regarding your Charleston knowledge, try and be objective when you read this...
1) You didn’t know what counties the city of Charleston is in.
2) You recommended one of the most well known tourist traps in Charleston to someone, later saying you wouldn’t eat there, but you’d recommend it. You also linked Trip Advisor to support your recommendation, a link to tourist reviews.
3) And after being welcomed by Charlestonians for 5 years, you broad brushed the population of the city saying they blame others for their problems, then followed it up saying “they are too proud of their city”.

I think you’ve proved his point, and I didn’t need to jump very far to reach that conclusion.




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You aren’t very good at allowing for differing views or opinions.


Posted: Jun 2, 2020 9:04 AM
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First of all, I’m allowed to have whatever opinion I want about Charleston, orange overalls, Hyman’s, Coach Brownell, or anything else. I always explain my rationale. For whatever reason, it bothers you whenever my opinion doesn’t agree with yours.

I suggest you not take it so personally. The fact that you decided to bring my opinions about other (irrelevant) things into this conversation shows that you aren’t there yet.

Second, as I stated, I used to live in Charleston. So I have experience living there and interacting with others who lived there as well as visitors. I’ve also been a visitor to Charleston many times, before and since I lived there, and have seen it from that perspective as well.

The pride I have noticed some Charlestonians having about their city goes beyond a healthy pride in my opinion. It seems arrogant and prideful in that UNC Tarheel kind of way. Obviously everyone in Charleston isn’t that way. Most aren’t. There are many fine people there, many of whom are good friends of mine.

I hope you have a nice Tuesday, Frances.

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From "Classic Charleston approach", implying all...

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 9:22 AM
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or at least most, to "many Charlstonians" to "some Charlestonians". One more post and you'll have completed the back-pedal.

Classic JK. Well done.




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No backpeddling whatsoever.


Posted: Jun 2, 2020 2:54 PM
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Unfortunately I felt the need to clarify since you and your gal pals like to overreact to posts, read into things too much, and draw ridiculous conclusions in an attempt to paint someone else into a corner and "win" your argument.

Again, it's weird that you have such a big problem with someone else not sharing your opinion. Why do you care if I like Charleston or not? Why do you care if I like orange overalls or not? Live and let live, sister.

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Well...

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 4:58 PM
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You made the post about what county Charleston was in, not me. In fact, you interrupted a conversation I was having with someone else about quarantine restrictions to point out my error, which was in fact, not an error. No one painted you in a corner. No one overreacted. No one drew a ridiculous conclusion. You went for the "gotcha", and missed. It was then we knew you were ignorant as to where the county lines ran, but now you know.

You made the post recommending Hyman's in response to a request for "locals favs, etc..." restaurant recommendations. Maybe you thought by "etc..." he meant "locals favs or a really touristy place"? Maybe you didn't know that Hyman's is widely known as a tourist trap. Is it good? Is it affordable? Maybe. And while that's up for debate, it's hardly a place that many locals frequent, or recommend. You went on to say you wouldn't eat there, you just recommend it. That is silly. At any rate, now you know.

I don't care if you like the orange overalls or not, it's your opinion. But there is no need to say fellow Clemson fans, who are giving their time to make your Clemson game day experience one like no other, look "stupid". That's poor manners. Maybe you didn't know that, now you do.

So next time someone from Charleston, takes the time to walk the streets and report back to us after a major event, just reply with "Thank you for sharing", and move on. But if you must use poor judgement, and post a criticism of the people of that city, be prepared for the lack of knowledge you previously displayed to be brought up again.

Preparing for your "Why do you ___________________?" response.

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How long have you been a fan of Charleston?

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 5:29 PM
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"arrogant & prideful" ?

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 9:24 AM
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Deer sweet baby Jesus laying in the manger Karen.

Look in the mirror.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


Now it's his opinion that no part of the City of Charleston

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is in Berkeley County?

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That's probably how they drew the maps back home

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 9:28 AM
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where she's from.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


I think that's typical for invasive species.

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 9:33 AM
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But then again, I'm no horticulturist.

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If pigs are so smart, why do 66% of them use weak and inferior materials during construction?


Of course you're allowed to have opinions, this is still

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Posted: Jun 2, 2020 12:45 PM
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America, albeit a really effed up 2020 version of America.

But others are also allowed to point out when you're being arrogant and condescending in delivering said opinions. You started out by making fun of the lowcountry dialect, moved into attacking Charlestonians while tossing out a useless and incorrect generalization, and then you fire back when you get called out on it. If you want to have a discussion, that's fine, but you certainly didn't invite one. In fact you did the opposite and launched a hyperbolic yet obtuse attack.

I don't think you will find a native Charlestonian, or a native of any city who will admit their city is perfect. But yes, there are many, many problems that are caused solely by outside influences there. But you weren't addressing that. You responded to posts about the riots. So tell me, how many of the rioters, looters, agitators live in Charleston vs those that came in from outside areas? If you're like me and have no clue what that ratio is, then it's probably best to remain silent on that one as opposed to making fun of the good people of Charleston. Especially if you weren't there for the protests, riots and/or clean up, then your opinion means nothing.

And you lived 5 years in Charleston? That's nothing. What, were you there to work at MUSC then leave? 5 years in a city neither makes you an expert nor does it allow me to place any stock or confidence in your opinion.


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You seem to care a lot about this.


Posted: Jun 2, 2020 2:58 PM
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Are you from Charleston?

Do you live there?

Have you ever lived there?

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It’s no wonder we don’t see eye to eye on brad brownell based on your rioting opinions.


I have plenty of opinions on rioting.


Posted: Jun 2, 2020 3:02 PM
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Including that it's generally bad, disruptive, and destructive. But I didn't share those here, so I'm not sure how you would've known my opinions on the topic.

I don't know enough about the riots going on in Charleston to know specifics. I don't think anyone does, which is why I don't appreciate the assumption that the issue with Charleston's riots is thugs from Atlanta. Yep, blame the thugs from the big city for disrupting little 'ol Charleston. Then we don't have to consider the fact that Charleston might have any impurities.

The assumption that the rioting there must be from someone else wreaks of arrogance. Could it be due to outsiders? Of course. Do we have enough information at this point to know that for sure? No.

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Thank you for again sharing your knowledge of Charleston...

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Posted: Jun 1, 2020 8:14 AM
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Or lack there of.





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regarding Charleston and my knowledge thereof. In the future, when new topics are brought up, I will do my best to prove my worth to you before I share an opinion. That way, I can know with full confidence ahead of time that you feel my opinion is based on satisfactory knowledge.

Perhaps that will prevent a lot of this unproductive dialogue.

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Unproductive?


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It's already produced an apology from you.

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Thanks for taking the time to post this. My son called this morning to tell us he was down on King last night and they left after it started.They went down this morning to help clean up.

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Channel 5 had a phone interview with a King Street wine bar owner. Said his customers had rocks and other things thrown at them. He estimates that due to 150,000 dollars in damages from the riots combined with money losses from the shutdown that his business is gone. Had no kind words for the mayor. They had interviews with other King Street owners who criticized the mayor's lack of response.

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Trust me there is no shortage of cowardly mayors. Afraid a response might upset a voter or someone may get a boo boo from their arrest and sue. The gutlessness is palpable. I get a peaceful demonstration. Destroying where you live makes no sense to me. Its like prisoners in jail who set their mattress on fire but cant get out once it starts.

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It's the cowards vs. the idiots.

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I would expect Hall's Chophouse to have excellent video


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Hopefully some of these on-camera thugs will do years in prison ...

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This makes me very sad as I love Chas. too. My mother grew up on 117 Rutledge and my father across the Ashley near Saint Andrews. I lived for a time on James Island. My great grandfather was sheriff of Chas. for close to 30 years, Sheriff Poulnot. This would not have happened on his watch I can guarantee you that, however that was a much different time.
Thank you for taking time to assist in clean up.


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Yeah i was their too... I'm a firm believer that if a police man tells you to stop you stop...there was no enforcement of the law. Bullets would work.
sorry old school

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Drove down king street this afternoon.

So far these are the Businesses that were were hit.



82 Queen

AE Printing

AJ Architects

American Theater

Apple Store

Art Mecca of Charleston

Athlete’s Foot

Basil

Beckett Boutique

Ben Ham Images

Benny Ravello’s

Blue Bicycle Books

Bilda Bike

Canvas Salon Hair Color and Design

Circa Lighting

Charleston Area Convention and Visitor’s Bureau

Charleston City Market

Charleston Hemp Collective

Charlie’s Grocery

Christian Michi

College of Charleston Bookstore

College of Charleston Gift Shop

Cupcake DownSouth

CVS

Darling Oyster Bar

El Jefe Texican Cantina

Filigree Jewelry

Forever 21

Forte Jazz Lounge

Fuel

Fuji Sushi

George C Birlant & Co Antiques

H&M

HOM

Hall’s Chophouse

Historic Charleston Foundation

Hotel Bennett

Indaco

Ink N Ivy

Jeni’s Ice Cream

JohnKing Grill & Bar

Jos. A. Bank King Street

Juanita Greenberg's Nacho Royale

Kaminsky's

King’s Leaf Cigar Lounge

King Street Dispensary

King Street Grocery

King Market

Landrum Tables

Las Olas

Mama Kim’s

Mellow Mood

Moe's Southwest Grill

Monza

Muse Restaurant

Oku

Orvis

Parcel 32

Playa Bowls

Pottery Barn

Proof

Rarebit

Record Stop Charleston

Reeve’s & Son Shoe Repair Shop

Republic Ice Cream & Custard

Ro Sham Beaux

Rue de Jean

Sherwin Williams Meeting Street

Silver Vault of Charleston

Starbucks

Stars

Style Exchange

Sweet Belgium

Sweetwater Cafe

The Alley

The Belmont

The Dewberry

The Grocery

The Macintosh

The Ordinary

Threshold Repertory Theatre

Two Cumberland

Uncorked

Vintage Lounge

Virginia’s on King

Walgreen’s

Warren Dorms at College of Charleston

West Elm

William Aiken House

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