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Topic: Can we please scrap the "No-Back" Shotgun formation?
Replies: 13   Last Post: Oct 11, 2018 10:59 AM by: CUintulsa
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Can we please scrap the "No-Back" Shotgun formation?

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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 8:44 AM
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Its either a run up the middle for no gain, or a Slant / Dig Route that the Defense is ready for....if we even have enough time for the route to develop before the blocking breaks down and we're sacked. The empty backfield QB run somewhat worked with Watson, rarely worked with Bryant, and we just don't need to even go there with TL right now, imo.

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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 8:47 AM
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TL doesn't have the pocket presence like DW4 yet. For whatever reason pass pro is the weakness of our OL this year. We definitely need extra bodies to block for him right now.

Maybe during championship phase the OL will be better and we can execute some empty sets.


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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 8:50 AM
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I'm not sure our RB's in pass pro is going to help.
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We are too predictable with which RBs can block.


Posted: Oct 11, 2018 9:18 AM
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9 NEEDS to improve.

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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 8:51 AM
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Again with the " our OL is a weakness " line .
How ? Our break downs in pass protection have been mostly on Trevor . He's young , he's inexperienced and he simply can't see some disguised extra rushers yet .
Watch the film , our OL is doing a solid job in both phases imo.


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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 8:54 AM
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I'll pass this on to dabo so our undefeated millionaire coach can change what he is doing.

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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 8:57 AM
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He didnt blame Dabo. Just made an observation


Posted: Oct 11, 2018 10:59 AM
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that might be right. Isnt that what discussing football is?


ok. how about a few times a game the RG says ole?


Posted: Oct 11, 2018 8:57 AM
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Block the DT for zero seconds.

It should get better as the season goes. We have played an alarming amount of OL at a position we are NOT too deep.


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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 8:59 AM
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Notice I said pass pro is their weakness. Not OL is the weakness.. the run blocking has been awesome compared to last year.


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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 9:03 AM
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OL is a tough job . Lots of things going on , have to operate in a small , violent space with many confusing fronts and disguises.
Expect to be able to find about a dozen plays in a particular game where someone whiffs ... or just totally misses an assignment .
That's not bad OL play , that is the nature of that football position .
If you're seeing 18-20 of those types of miscalculations and mistakes ... then maybe you'd call it bad OL play .
I think we are solid on the OL and we have a good rotation for multiple positions on there .

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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 9:29 AM
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Agreed. With todays offenses and defenses, it's a hard position to learn. With a very few exceptions, it's the hardest position for freshmen to make an immediate impact. An unfortunate injury on OL can many times derail an offense faster than the loss of a skill player. Another example of why our coaches let the 2's and 3's play early and often.


You really want to throw all empty sets out? Yikes.


Posted: Oct 11, 2018 9:17 AM
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Throw on some Tom Brady/Patriots film and settle down.

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Posted: Oct 11, 2018 9:21 AM
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Those empty sets work best when the qb gets the ball out quick. Multiple times saturday in the empty set Trevor just held the ball too long. He has to learn to feel pressure better and live for the next play.

In high school he would run around back there until someone came open but that won't work at this level


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