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A message for the NFL

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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 8:38 PM
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Saw this in someone else's comments and had to share. Unfortunately these clowns are getting quite a bit of attention, and maybe it is for the best.

Let us educate you, for those that protest the American Flag and Anthem.

TAKE A KNEE.
Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January. If you don't know where that is, just Google it from the sidelines. Hold a musket ball in your fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two. There won't be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so just wait your turn. Take your cleats and socks off to get a real experience. Then take a knee.
Then, take one at the beach in Normandy where man after American man stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces...the very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the dead bodies in front of them, riddled with bullets from enemy fire.
Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. from Khe San to Saigon... Anywhere will do. REAL Americans died in all those jungles. There was no playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what flag they represented. When they came home, they were protested as well..and spit on for reasons only cowards know.
Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree heat.. Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress... Your number won't be printed on it unless your number is up! You'll need to stay hydrated but there won't be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You're on your own.
There's a lot of places to take a knee. Real Americans have given their lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought as a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who bled for the very freedoms you have. That's what the red stripes mean. It represents the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your liberty.
While you're on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of ground taken....but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering forests and bitter cold mountains...every inch marked by an American life lost serving that flag you protest.
No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans...just American men and women...delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us...blazing a path so you would have the right to "take a knee."
You haven't an inkling what it took to get you where you are; but your "protest" is duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is issued to another...
If you really feel the need to take a knee, come with me to church on Sunday and we'll both kneel before Almighty God. We'll thank Him for preserving this country for as long as He has. We'll beg forgiveness for our ingratitude for all He has provided us. We'll appeal to Him for understanding and wisdom. We'll pray for liberty and justice for all....because He is the one who provides those things.
And there will be no protest. There will only be gratitude for His provision and a plea for His continued grace and mercy on the land of the free and the home of the brave. It goes like this...
GOD BLESS AMERICA!

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amen brother and may i add MLB AS WELL.

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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 8:42 PM
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Re: amen brother and may i add MLB AS WELL.

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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 8:55 PM
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Another Amen from a Vietnam Vet who walked in those jungles you mentioned in your write up.

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Point For Fighting That War***

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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 9:05 PM
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Re: Point For Fighting That War***


Posted: Sep 25, 2017 9:55 PM
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I regret that I have but one TU to give for this post.

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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 8:51 PM
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Amen, and Amen.


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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 8:53 PM
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Couldn't agree more

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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 8:58 PM
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Vietnam vet says thanks.


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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 8:59 PM
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100% agree and your passionate post is much appreciated.

Yet there are others that are passionate about their beliefs too. When they are NFL football players in the public eye how do they express their concerns?


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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 9:13 PM
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Social media seems to be the place that everyone else does it. I'm sure that the professional athletes can make their displeasures known on social media just like many of us do.


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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 9:00 PM
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Unfortunately, the ones who need to hear this message are either unwilling or incapable of understanding it... or they do, and just don't care.

I'll do the only thing I can to "protest"... I'll change the channel to something other than the NFL.

Go Tigers!

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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 9:01 PM
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As a grad with 2 Clemson degrees and Clemson season tickets and NFL season ticket holder. Have been a NFL season ticket holder
before Clemson even allowed Blacks onto our Campus and football team. Consider the following:

1. We sing God Bless America prior to the game.
2. We give the Pledge prior to the game.
3. We honor the Military every game
4. We were forced by the National Government to allows blacks on our campus
5. We booed President Obama on our Video board on Military Appreciation day and had to be shamed by President Barker
6. We honor Tillman on out Campus

It might be time to take the view of America from many other points of view.


To Lop In Prayer and The Anthem With Implied Racism is

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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 9:09 PM
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Pretty Shady. Essentially You Are Lopping Prayer, Patriotism and Racism at Clemson Into a Collective Character. Not Buying it.

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Re: To Lop In Prayer and The Anthem With Implied Racism is

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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 9:45 PM
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Nope. Lopping them with a nonsensical idea of patriotism. I do the pledge and sing my lungs out for the anthem because I choose to do so, and that is what I feel. My friend is an agnostic and he fails state the part "under God." Is he also to be cast into the outer darkness? But is it barely possible that we have set up rituals of "patriotism" that are somehow tests to be allowed to be included in America? Is it at all important in a free country that we set up mandatory performances of shows of patriotism that our livelihoods depend on? That ain't really patriotism folks. It is reminiscent of, let's say, less enlightened regimes.

I do not agree with the kneelers, but is it possible if they feel concerned enough to do this in the numbers they have we might want to listen to them rather than write them off as traitors or somehow disrespectful of veterans? In fact, we did not all grow up the same way or have the same take on American life. In short, if you are white like us, it did not happen to you.

And sorry, Morbid, your logo tells the tale.


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Posted: Sep 24, 2017 9:48 PM
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Give it a rest. Anybody from the generation you claim to be from wouldn't have such a skewed interpretation of the society we're dealing with now. Go ahead and take your seat and just stop talking


Re: A message for the NFL

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Posted: Sep 25, 2017 7:11 AM
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Are you really presuming to speak for all of us in our sixties? Don't!!!! I marched for Civil Rights in the sixties and against Vietnam in the seventies. I was tear-gassed and beaten up. I attended a wedding for a black friend in a church in Greeleyville that was burned to the ground by two KKKK members and I see the same kind of racial entitlement being claimed by white supremacists right now. And I am a 65 year old white middle class man. The NFL protests may not be my cup of tea, but at least they are PEACEFUL.


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Posted: Sep 25, 2017 7:12 AM
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Are you really presuming to speak for all of us in our sixties? Don't!!!! I marched for Civil Rights in the sixties and against Vietnam in the seventies. I was tear-gassed and beaten up. I attended a wedding for a black friend in a church in Greeleyville that was burned to the ground by two KKKK members and I see the same kind of racial entitlement being claimed by white supremacists right now. And I am a 65 year old white middle class man. The NFL protests may not be my cup of tea, but at least they are PEACEFUL.


Sorry for the double post! My WIFI effed up!


Posted: Sep 25, 2017 7:13 AM
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N/M


Re: A message for the NFL

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Posted: Sep 25, 2017 2:01 AM
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trk1 - I don't think anyone is saying that change is not needed, or that protests should not be made. It is the HOW and WHEN that those people are doing it disrespects those that deserve respect. They might as well have videos of them spitting on the graves of our fallen soldiers.

And yet - there were posts on t-net this past weekend about Chubb (NCSU) spitting on the center of the field at FSU as being disrespectful. But while that bothers some people, spitting on the graves of our fallen soldiers does not. Awesome logic. NOT!!


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Posted: Sep 25, 2017 2:18 AM
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Stated with amazing clarity!


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Re: A message for the NFL

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Posted: Sep 25, 2017 8:39 AM
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Those who kneel in the NFL are "No Flag lovers" as such. While freedom of expression is held dear, I wonder if the players even recognize the sacrifices others made to allow them the privilege of "protest" while merely playing a game. As for me I will not watch or support any NFL team this season due to their disrespect.

Go Tigers!


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