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VCU Beat Reporter saying Clemson has entered...
Mar 19, 2017, 9:00 PM
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The mix with LSU for Will Wade.
IMHO, you have to move on Wade. He is an alum, been a great recruiting record at VCU, and can immediately improve Clemson Basketball.
I like Brownell, but he will never field more than a mediocre NIT team here at Clemson. He's had time to show he could do more, he hasn't done it. Time to move on, and Wade is low risk, high reward situation.
https://twitter.com/_codystewart/status/843622166520389632
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Re: VCU Beat Reporter saying Clemson has entered...
Mar 19, 2017, 9:02 PM
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Encouraging!
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Re: VCU Beat Reporter saying Clemson has entered...
Mar 19, 2017, 9:13 PM
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rather spend that on football
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We are going to have to spend $2-$3 million for our next coach.
Mar 19, 2017, 9:15 PM
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Otherwise we are just being cheap and shouldn't expect to hire or keep a successful coach.
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Re: We are going to have to spend $2-$3 million for our next coach.
Mar 19, 2017, 9:25 PM
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Does that surprise you? Spend the money and get a real coach.
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Doesn't surprise me at all. I was responding to the poster above
Mar 19, 2017, 9:28 PM
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who said that we should spend that on football instead.
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Seriously? So you want to wait until his contract expires?***
Mar 19, 2017, 9:28 PM
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Re: Seriously? So you want to wait until his contract expires?***
Mar 19, 2017, 11:38 PM
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I agree. Brownell is not going to make us competitive on a national stage. If he thinks our program is in a solid stage he needs to go. The last game of the season shows he has no control over the team. Blowing a 20 point lead while watching the players look like a sandlot team doing a run and shoot offense with a 20 point lead is asinine. Clemson can play in the basketball market. Just hire a proven big league coach in men and women basketball.Obviously USC did that.
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Re: agree. Don't waste money on basketball
Mar 19, 2017, 9:36 PM
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I love football and relish our national title. However, I love basketball too and miss the days when we were playing in the tournament. Basketball matters at Clemson. Football gets plenty of money. It's basketballs time to see some real support. Pay Wade what you have to and get him here.
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Well this is interesting.***
Mar 19, 2017, 9:14 PM
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same guy tweets that the expectation is
Mar 19, 2017, 9:16 PM
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if Wade accepts, BB would be let go immediately
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Link?***
Mar 19, 2017, 9:17 PM
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Re: Link?***
Mar 19, 2017, 9:19 PM
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twitter.com
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I don't have a twitter account b/c I'm not
Mar 19, 2017, 9:21 PM
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a teenage girl.
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you don't have to be a teenager... being a
Mar 19, 2017, 9:24 PM
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girl suffices nicely
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OMG.***
Mar 19, 2017, 9:39 PM
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she's just calling it like
Mar 19, 2017, 9:53 PM
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she see's it
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Re: I don't have a twitter account b/c I'm not
Mar 19, 2017, 10:07 PM
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That's Snapchat. Twitter has an older demographic. It is a great place to get realtime news and follow you favorite sports team's.
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Hate to say this, but if I'm Wade
Mar 19, 2017, 9:20 PM
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LSU is the better choice. Louisiana produces a ton of talent and you're the only game in town. Him being an alum is the wildcard.
No way LSU should be as down as they have been
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I don't think in-state talent is that big of a deal.
Mar 19, 2017, 9:24 PM
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If a coach today is relying on in-state talent to build a program, he is in trouble. While LSU offers an easier conference schedule, I doubt they have a new $65 million facility and I would be surprised if they pay more than us.
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When you're the only major school in a state
Mar 19, 2017, 9:25 PM
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loaded with talent, that's a huge advantage. Not many schools have that situation
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Then why are they rarely relevant in basketball?
Mar 19, 2017, 9:29 PM
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And do you consider it a better football job than Clemson as well?
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Poor coaching hires. Dale Briwn had huge
Mar 19, 2017, 9:31 PM
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success there
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Re: Wow! The Clemson version of March Madness!
Mar 19, 2017, 9:24 PM
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Me too!
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Re: I'm actually shocked we're negotiating with a coach
Mar 19, 2017, 9:27 PM
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Maybe Drad has decided to make the change if Wade will come.
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It's still not an ethical way to do it
Mar 19, 2017, 9:29 PM
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unless behind closed doors they've already told Brad he's not coming back or Brad didn't agree to terms and it just hasn't been announced
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Re: It's still not an ethical way to do it
Mar 19, 2017, 9:33 PM
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And yet coaches do this every year....OK St coach just left a year...do you think he let OK St know he was talking to Illinois? Dan has a responsibility to Clemson...not to not hurt Brads feelings...I'm certain he was clear with him and Brads probably looking for another job or a house on Hilton Head with the millions he gets.
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It isn't unethical at all.
Mar 19, 2017, 9:36 PM
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Coaches do it all the time. Why can they negotiate behind the scenes but the school can't?
Unethical would be if we didn't honor our contract with Brownell. And that's not going to happen.
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Re: It isn't unethical at all.
Mar 19, 2017, 9:38 PM
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And of course the contract will be honored
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It certainly is. Name the last school
Mar 19, 2017, 9:41 PM
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that hired a coach before firing their current coach. What kind of message does that send to the coaches you have or may hire
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Re: It certainly is. Name the last school
Mar 19, 2017, 9:43 PM
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Good chance you end up with a Muschamp type hire if you sit and wait for the games to be played and the coaches to be released...It's why the schools and coaches work through agents
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They had no coach for two months
Mar 19, 2017, 10:11 PM
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and still couldn't hire someone decent. Apples and oranges. If we're even contemplating moving on just do so
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I gotta think that if we are talking to Wade that DRAd
Mar 19, 2017, 9:51 PM
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and BB have already decided he's leaving... but they are not announcing until they work details out.
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I would hope and think that's the case
Mar 19, 2017, 9:54 PM
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because you know as well as I do you don't hire new coaches while you still have a coach.
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Re: I'm actually shocked we're negotiating with a coach
Mar 19, 2017, 9:30 PM
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College basketball is one of the most scumist(sp) business in America. This would register about 2 out of 10 on the scum meter.
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Re: Maybe it means that we only make a move if we think we can upgrade.
Mar 19, 2017, 9:34 PM
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Agreed...Brad has a contract that will be honored...don't feel bad for a guy who gets 3.5 million to go away
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So that's how you deal with a guy who you
Mar 19, 2017, 9:36 PM
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personally believe to be a good and honorable man? There are several guys out there who you could consider a move in a positive direction. Heck, Crean would be a huge move. Pat Kelsey is a hot young coach. If we're in a place we're even negotiating with another coach, do it the right way and just let Brad go
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I don't think it is dishonorable at all. It's just business.
Mar 19, 2017, 9:40 PM
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If Brad were a hot commodity and other schools were interested, would you expect him to resign from Clemson first before talking to any other schools?
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Re: I don't think it is dishonorable at all. It's just business.
Mar 19, 2017, 9:46 PM
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Bingo...you'd find out after the fact he has a new deal...he's on the other side of this and he will get a lot of money to walk away
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There's a right and wrong way to do business
Mar 19, 2017, 9:48 PM
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Now maybe it's all been settled behind the scenes and nothing has been announced as of yet. But this is not normal operating procedure if Brad is still the coach.
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I see your point, but in every business I've ever been a
Mar 19, 2017, 11:21 PM
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part of, it's standard procedure. You have somebody lined up to take over before you let the old guy go. It's expected because it's just prudent from a business standpoint. It's understood that businesses are looking out for themselves and will do what's in their best interest. You know that going in; thus you have to perform.
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I'm sure it's happened, but I honestly can't tell you
Mar 19, 2017, 11:29 PM
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one time I've heard of a college negotiating with a coach while they still had a coach. It's why a school like State and Illinois went ahead and pulled the trigger. If you're the coach being negotiated with, what's to say it's not going to happen to you. Schools always remove the current coach before moving on
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this may just be a ploy by his agent
Mar 19, 2017, 9:34 PM
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To get LSU to commit and hire wade. I just read LSU is also interested in Crean.
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we should be interested in Crean too***
Mar 19, 2017, 9:37 PM
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agree***
Mar 19, 2017, 9:37 PM
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I was waiting to hear that. Makes to much sense
Mar 19, 2017, 9:39 PM
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for them not to pursue the biggest name out there. I'd expect Oklahoma St to be in on him as well
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yes... Cowboy Corner on the OKST fan site is some
Mar 19, 2017, 9:40 PM
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good reading right now as they talk coaches
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I just checked it out. Interesting read.***
Mar 19, 2017, 10:24 PM
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Re: VCU Beat Reporter saying Clemson has entered...
Mar 19, 2017, 9:46 PM
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I say !
He should be able to pay off those student loans to the gubment all the while coaching at the university where he accumulated them .
Talk about poetic .
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