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All-TigerNet [14090]
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Paying players, paying players!!!!
Mar 28, 2014, 11:43 AM
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What's next position coaches making 500,000 a year, coordinators making a million a year, head coaches making 5 million a year, ticket price increases, increase on donor levels, conferences with billion dollar tv contracts? Oh wait all that stuff has already happened. But more people are upset by players wanting a piece of the pie, than all the ridiculous amounts of money coaches, schools, and tv channels get.
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CU Medallion [58410]
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I don't object to players wanting a piece of the pie so
Mar 28, 2014, 11:49 AM
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much as I hate that we are at a point in college athletics where we are even having this discussion. It tells me something is out of whack, and that's what concerns me.
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Orange Blooded [4947]
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Re: Paying players, paying players!!!!
Mar 28, 2014, 11:55 AM
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I don't have a problem with players getting a bump in scholarship money because the price of the game has gone up. What I do have a problem with is the idea that some players are worth more than other or sports that generate more money or worth larger stipends. All of these student-athletes put in the time and effort for Clemson University and in turn Clemson gives them the chance to succeed in the future. Weather it be in sports or academics. Just because you are a star or your sport is more popular does not mean you put in any more work than the other athletes.
I say all of that without even mentioning the idea of the union or "employee-athlete". If you can't understand the stupidity in that plan then we all need to fear for the future of college athletics.
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Re: Paying players, paying players!!!!
Mar 28, 2014, 12:00 PM
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joining the union will stop the flow of my IPTAY money.
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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Only private school athletes can form a union..
Mar 28, 2014, 12:06 PM
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Do your research and read the ruling
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Oculus Spirit [81884]
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He's obviously extrapolating where it is headed...***
Mar 28, 2014, 1:28 PM
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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That's doom and gloom speculation. The board that made…...
Mar 28, 2014, 6:06 PM
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this decision has no authority over public schools.
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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Union stuff would have never happened...
Mar 28, 2014, 12:00 PM
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If it wasn't for the greed of the NCAA and schools. So if you don't like the union blame the culprits who caused it to reach that point.
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CU Guru [1198]
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yea, unions aren't greedy or corrupt
Mar 28, 2014, 4:45 PM
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That's horse ####
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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Paying athletes equally across the board....
Mar 28, 2014, 12:05 PM
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even there are only two revenue generating sports. Sounds like socialism.
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Oculus Spirit [81884]
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No, that's called athletic departments.
Mar 28, 2014, 1:29 PM
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Olympic sports do not generate profit, they are and always have been funded by profit generating sports.
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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I specified players getting paid…..
Mar 28, 2014, 6:08 PM
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I said nothing about how the teams are funded. Two separate things. Stay on topic.
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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that has nothing to do with players getting paid...
Mar 28, 2014, 6:10 PM
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that only has to do with public schools having women teams
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CU Guru [1198]
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Re: Paying athletes equally across the board....
Mar 28, 2014, 4:49 PM
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That's how redistribution works. You can't just pick and choose. That wouldn't be FAIR.
Get with your program and stop looking like a fool.
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Athletic Dir [865]
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The athletes at Clemson are the primary beneficiaries
Mar 28, 2014, 1:25 PM
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of almost every dollar that Clemson Athletic Department takes in.
I guess you could argue the $50,000/year that the guy gets paid to organize game day parking does not benefit the athletes, but without him, the game experience would be diminished for the fans and the fans would give less to the Athletic Department.
I guess you could argue that the millions paid to the coaching staff does not benefit the athletes (or does it?)
I guess you could argue the $200,000/year that AD gets paid to organize the Athletic Department and its multimillion dollar budget does not benefit the athletes, but without him, the Athletic Department would not have necessary leadership, and the athletes 4 year experience would suffer.
I guess you could argue that the practice facilities, NFL style locker rooms, and state of the art weight rooms do not benefit the athletes (or does it?)
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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Didn't say anything about getting rid of certain positions..
Mar 28, 2014, 6:16 PM
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in the AD. Didn't say anything about getting rid of anybody. Didn't say anything about a parking manager. I pointed out the sky rocketing salaries of coaches, the sky rocketing tv contracts, the increase in donor levels, the increase in ticket prices. Nothing in your post addressed any of this. You just brought up things that have nothing to do with the points I posted about the billions of dollars pouring into college athletics.
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Athletic Dir [865]
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Of the billions of dollars pouring in...
Mar 31, 2014, 8:40 AM
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There is currently nothing left over for additional direct compensation to the athletes unless changes are made such as:
Pay cut for the coaching staff, pay cut for the AD's staff, reduction in facilities, reduction in non-revenue athletes (tennis, golf, track, etc), reduction in travel expenses.
Some of these reductions are total justified. It is ridicules to have NFL style locker rooms and plane trips to places like Durham. I think the players would rather have direct compensation and ride the bus to places like Durham.
I think some people (maybe you) think that CU's Athletic Department has a stash of millions of dollars; however, they don't. Every extra dollar they take in gets spent making our football facilities better than our rivals. CU's Athletic Department is so strapped for money that they had to cut wrestling and men swimming just to stay "football" competitive with our rivals.
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CU Guru [1838]
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Any and all benefits they receive are now deemed
Mar 28, 2014, 1:35 PM
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Taxable Income. Let's see those W-2s.
I bet Lois Lerner already has a list of Conservative Schools to TARGET
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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Stick to the issue, don't change it to political positions..
Mar 28, 2014, 6:18 PM
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that have nothing to do with the topic.
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Re:I can not wait for the first STRIKE! GO UNIONS! STRIKE!***
Mar 28, 2014, 1:57 PM
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CU Guru [1198]
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I don't think the majority of people
Mar 28, 2014, 4:43 PM
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have an issue with modifications. It's the entire "they are employees" and deserve compensation. They are NOT employees.
####, we'll soon be paying high school players. And that's fine... let's just let our entire youth grow up trying to make their dime in sports. Makes perfect cents doesn't it.
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Re: Paying players, paying players!!!!
Mar 28, 2014, 4:59 PM
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Darn near everyone in the jobs you mentioned came through the same amateur system players are a part of today. They took that opportunity and turned it into a job that pays them huge sums of money, yet many people on the board keep acting like a free ride through college, full of all the perks of being an athlete, is nothing and is worthless.
Paying players will end up hurting college athletics across the board. If you implement a flat fee, I'm guessing plenty of colleges will have to cut sports because they can't afford to pay players. If you implement a payment that is given based on a percentage of the revenue generated by the individual sport at the individual school, no one will ever be able to compete with Texas, Michigan, Penn State, Florida, and Alabama ever again in football.
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All-TigerNet [14090]
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And those people did not play in this era...
Mar 28, 2014, 6:20 PM
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Sorry but this isn't pre 2000 college athletics anymore.
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