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Legend [16646]
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That is quite interesting...
Jul 15, 2019, 1:06 PM
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Using 'fear' to address 'fear'. Novel...it's like starting back fires to squelch forest fires.
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All-In [47795]
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yeah, its an interesting point
Jul 15, 2019, 1:08 PM
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in that its completely unhinged from reality.
When did it deportation of those here illegally become such a radical concept?
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Oculus Spirit [80999]
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Don't punish the criminals!***
Jul 15, 2019, 1:15 PM
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Re: The author Stephen King has an interesting point
Jul 15, 2019, 1:09 PM
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Not really. We arent going after them because they are minorities. Minorities are fine. It's because of their illegal status. American citizen minorities are absolutely fine.
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All-In [47795]
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yeah, but illegals are the most favored minority
Jul 15, 2019, 1:19 PM
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now by the DNC. move over blacks....
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wait, the raids are for ppl with a court-ordered....
Jul 15, 2019, 1:18 PM
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deportation, right?
Are there people that really support not deporting people that have been ordered by the court to be deported?
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Good to see him writing entertaining fiction again finally.***
Jul 15, 2019, 1:19 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93618]
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Calling someone a NAZI while you're trying to institute...
Jul 15, 2019, 1:41 PM
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socialism is precious.
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Re: Calling someone a NAZI while you're trying to institute...
Jul 15, 2019, 1:43 PM
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Why? There are peaceful somewhat socialist countries.
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Oculus Spirit [93618]
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Do you really want our nation to be socialist?
Jul 15, 2019, 8:45 PM
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I don't believe you do. I don't believe most dems want socialism but that's the party line now and most are either ignoring it in hopes it will go away or they are remaining silent so as not to be outcast.
The only think I fear is the dem party destroying itself with the current message.
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Re: Do you really want our nation to be socialist?
Jul 16, 2019, 7:36 AM
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No I don't. I don't think many Dems do even in DC. They want free education, medical, social security, and everything else a capitalist society.
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110%er [9648]
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No he doesn't. He's just a race-baiting liberal. Are
Jul 15, 2019, 1:45 PM
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minorities being rounded up and put in camps? Or are people entering our country illegally being held until they can be processed?
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Re: No he doesn't. He's just a race-baiting liberal. Are
Jul 15, 2019, 2:19 PM
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Do you not realize that a lot of these people were seeking entry legally? Or do you just not care?
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for reals question
Jul 15, 2019, 2:40 PM
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after starting into that.
gang violence doesn't look to be one of the reasons for asylum
persecution is probably a debatable topic. which of these grants them the ability to seek asylum?
race,
religion,
nationality,
membership in a particular social group,
or political opinion.
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Oculus Spirit [97678]
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They're here to work, and make as much money as possible
Jul 15, 2019, 2:52 PM
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while living on as little as possible, to maximize what they send home. Over 10% of Guatemala's GDP comes from Guatemalans in the US sending money back, to the tune of over $7 billion a year. Every single one I've investigated was sending money home, to parents, siblings, wives, and kids. Not one came here to become an American citizen or seek asylum, or to escape violence or whatever.
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Re: I read it...it confirms what Wilbur said.
Jul 15, 2019, 2:48 PM
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And people are doing that and ending up either stuck in Mexico or locked up in concentration camps. And Trump is intentionally changing the rules to make things worse. This is all manufactured by the administration.
What do you guys not get? The illegal immigration problem and the asylum problem are different things.
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Lot o points [155708]
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yeah and people abused the asylum process to get across
Jul 15, 2019, 2:58 PM
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the border and then no-showed for their hearings, thus the rule to remain in Mexico....nothing is manufactured.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
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I'm going with the Chicken, Alex...
Jul 15, 2019, 3:00 PM
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Since Adam & Eve came before conception! 
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Re: I read it...it confirms what Wilbur said.
Jul 15, 2019, 8:09 PM
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Everyone continues to characterize the illegal immigrant problem with 'the border'.
The fact is that the vast majority of illegals have overstayed they're visa's, they have nothing to do with applying at the border.
Trump has shaped the argument linking illegal immigrants with 'building a wall at the border', when in fact the largest part of the problem came thru airports.
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Lot o points [155708]
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It's a significant number, but it's less than half, and
Jul 15, 2019, 8:31 PM
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certainly not a majority.
When half of a a population committing a crime is committing it one way, and the other half another, it's not stupid to address either half.
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I'll go with what the Former ICE cheif says about the law
Jul 15, 2019, 2:44 PM
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rather than an obsucre website which doesn't address the law or procedure.
And I'll save you the time even though laws seem to be suggestions to liberals:
8 U.S. Code §?1325. Improper entry by alien
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(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts
Any alien who (1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or (2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or (3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.
(b) Improper time or place; civil penaltiesAny alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of—
(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or
(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.
Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.
(c) Marriage fraud
Any individual who knowingly enters into a marriage for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, or fined not more than $250,000, or both.
(d) Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.
(June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title II, ch. 8, §?275, 66 Stat. 229; Pub. L. 99–639, §?2(d), Nov. 10, 1986, 100 Stat. 3542; Pub. L. 101–649, title I, §?121(b)(3), title V, §?543(b)(2), Nov. 29, 1990, 104 Stat. 4994, 5059; Pub. L. 102–232, title III, §?306(c)(3), Dec. 12, 1991, 105 Stat. 1752; Pub. L. 104–208, div. C, title I, §?105(a), Sept. 30, 1996, 110 Stat. 3009–556.)
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A lot? C'mon man. There are many places in Mexico to seek
Jul 15, 2019, 3:18 PM
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asylum without swimming across the Rio Grande or storming a port of entry.
These folks have heard (because it was true under Obama) the way into the US is to come in, request asylum, get a court date, and then disappear. I'd be fine with Catch-and-release if they showed back up for their court date...
Our school has to pack backpacks for kids so they'll have food to eat over the weekend - when they're not being fed at school. Why in the heck do you want to let more people in while we have issues like that..?
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Re: A lot? C'mon man. There are many places in Mexico to seek
Jul 15, 2019, 4:12 PM
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That just isn't true. The whole skipping hearings thing is mostly a GOP fake talking point.
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That's why judges issued 1 mil deportation orders.***
Jul 15, 2019, 8:59 PM
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It's real simple.
Jul 15, 2019, 8:57 PM
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If Trump is for it they are against it. If Trump is against it they are for it. If Trump came out and took a position against Christians they would all get saved by the Blood of Christ within 24 hours. If he came out for abortion and illegal immigration they would chit a brick fighting against him.
They have no moral compass but they are claiming superior morality while ripping children from their mothers' wombs. God help anyone taking a child from a mother who traveled without confirmed transportation and ensured save passage through a 3rd world country exposing the child to rape, murder, being sold into slavery and God only knows what other dangers.
God help us all for enticing all people who are exposing themselves and their children to all the abuse these caravans travelers are suffering. Imo, those cages are more safe, secure and welcoming than anything or any place they've ever seen including their central american homes.
It doesn't take long for some of them to start whining about America but none of their tears are real, if they were those who follow would be discouraged from coming.
I call ######## on every dem tears about these people. They knew exactly what to expect when they departed for our southern border. Dance to the music, pay to the piper.
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Re: The author Stephen King has an interesting point
Jul 15, 2019, 10:03 PM
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“They gon put y’all back in chains”
-Joe Biden 2012
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Re: The author Stephen King has an interesting point
Jul 15, 2019, 10:45 PM
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Yeah and we all thought he was speaking figuratively.
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