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Cleary Tim is part of the scandal
Aug 28, 2018, 11:57 AM
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along with the coaches and players.
they all lie.
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In before "why didn't we get this info before now?????"***
Aug 28, 2018, 11:57 AM
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those look made up
Aug 28, 2018, 11:57 AM
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Where's Trevor's stats
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Nattering nabob of negativism
Aug 28, 2018, 12:00 PM
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Coot.
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Re: those look made up
Aug 28, 2018, 12:03 PM
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SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH. GOT TO LOVE THE MOT.
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Trevor attempted 35 passes
Aug 28, 2018, 12:04 PM
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and completed 40 of them for 2000 yards and change.
Every pass play scored.
Attempted 3 running plays for -24 yards.
Both the 1st and 2nd team defense were on the field.
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Re: Trevor attempted 35 passes
Aug 28, 2018, 1:03 PM
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With -24 yards rushing. I can see now why KB is starting. We have to have QB that can run for positive yards not the opposite. Next he'll be throwing all the passes behind the los and end up with negative yards passing as well.
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Finally. A fan with some common sense***
Aug 28, 2018, 3:40 PM
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Tim Bourret or Skynet ?
Aug 28, 2018, 12:04 PM
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is twitter self aware ?
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*snicker*
Aug 28, 2018, 12:04 PM
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yep, does a ton of good to get 1 of 4 guys worth of stats. Awesome, guess we can compare it to made up stuff then. FYI, releasing only 1 guy's stats does nothing to prove much when you can't see how the rest did...also doesn't do much when you don't know what he faced (1st string D the entire time, 2nd string, all walk-ons??), especially stats from non-live scrimmages.
Looks okay, for a game no one was trying to take his head off in and he wasn't live to use any running. I'll still hold my judgement to actual games though, but thanks.
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Re: *snicker*
Aug 28, 2018, 12:39 PM
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yep, does a ton of good to get 1 of 4 guys worth of stats. Awesome, guess we can compare it to made up stuff then. FYI, releasing only 1 guy's stats does nothing to prove much when you can't see how the rest did...also doesn't do much when you don't know what he faced (1st string D the entire time, 2nd string, all walk-ons??), especially stats from non-live scrimmages.
Looks okay, for a game no one was trying to take his head off in and he wasn't live to use any running. I'll still hold my judgement to actual games though, but thanks.
LOL what good is your comparison or judgement? Seems you believe that you are better equipped to judge who should be the starting QB at Clemson than the coaching staff. Perhaps you should step away from the keyboard for a bit and gain some perspective as the coaches have not shown any hint that they are not fully capable of making a solid QB decision.
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Re: *snicker*
Aug 28, 2018, 12:57 PM
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What good is a comparison?? It'd tell the real story of where their talents are pairing up. What good would knowing what they played against be? Oh, maybe to know if they produced stats against the better guys or not?? hmm...have no idea how that'd be useful to understand?
Guess you missed yesterday, Elliott (i know you all forgot who he is, but he's one of our offensive coordinators), said himself that where Kelly is ahead is in 3 areas...GAME management, confidence, and leadership.
https://www.tigernet.com/story/football/Elliott-says-QB-depth-chart-decision-is-just-where-you-start-17155
^ Feel free to read it for yourself.
So yeah...those are specifically where he graded better, straight from his own coordinator. You know where most of those are learned and earned?? I bet it isn't on a practice field playing non-live scrimmages...bet it's in live games, when the real pressure is on and they are live.
Oh are you to keep telling someone they shouldn't want to see the other 3 QB's stats?? What's a matter, scared they won't paint KB to look as far in the lead as you imagine in passing?? They haven't been live, so they have hardly none on their running, FWIW. Kelly has done what they asked...it still doesn't mean he actually produced the best stats of the 4. Seeing all 4 would at least let you see where they all are, not just the one they want to push as the starter for game 1. Seeing only his doesn't exactly tell you any more than you knew before it was posted. That's fact, like it or not.
Some of you really need to come into reality...hey guess what, I've posted numerous times in the last week on here that Kelly would be starter game 1....been posting it since last March. Even linked the March post. I'm not questioning them making him the game 1 starter...never have been.
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Re: *snicker*
Aug 28, 2018, 1:02 PM
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> I'm not questioning them making him the game 1 starter...never have been.
From everything else you've written on this thread, it sure sounds like you are second-guessing the decision. Perhaps you should have led with this. I'm sure most people here don't remember your comment history.
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Re: *snicker*
Aug 28, 2018, 1:14 PM
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It's really easy to miss unless you live on Tigernet. I only remember/recognize about two dozen users on this site and I'm sorry, but you're not one of them. I certainly didn't bother to go back and check your posting history from March.
Honestly, I tuned out the vast majority of preposterous QB threads months ago (except for the ones mocking all the commentary).
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hello Nwill. I was looking for a goldchain license plate cover for my Ford
Aug 28, 2018, 1:22 PM
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and came across this.
https://goo.gl/images/ap1Evi
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Who the #### are you?
Aug 28, 2018, 1:30 PM
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Just kidding... I actually recognize you!
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I'm the guy with the orange 1994 Ford Taurus
Aug 28, 2018, 1:49 PM
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SHO
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Re: *snicker*
Aug 28, 2018, 1:29 PM
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What good is a comparison?? It'd tell the real story of where their talents are pairing up. What good would knowing what they played against be? Oh, maybe to know if they produced stats against the better guys or not?? hmm...have no idea how that'd be useful to understand? Guess you missed yesterday, Elliott (i know you all forgot who he is, but he's one of our offensive coordinators), said himself that where Kelly is ahead is in 3 areas... GAME management, confidence, and leadership. https://www.tigernet.com/story/football/Elliott-says-QB-depth-chart-decision-is-just-where-you-start-17155^ Feel free to read it for yourself. So yeah...those are specifically where he graded better, straight from his own coordinator. You know where most of those are learned and earned?? I bet it isn't on a practice field playing non-live scrimmages...bet it's in live games, when the real pressure is on and they are live. Oh are you to keep telling someone they shouldn't want to see the other 3 QB's stats?? What's a matter, scared they won't paint KB to look as far in the lead as you imagine in passing?? They haven't been live, so they have hardly none on their running, FWIW. Kelly has done what they asked...it still doesn't mean he actually produced the best stats of the 4. Seeing all 4 would at least let you see where they all are, not just the one they want to push as the starter for game 1. Seeing only his doesn't exactly tell you any more than you knew before it was posted. That's fact, like it or not. Some of you really need to come into reality...hey guess what, I've posted numerous times in the last week on here that Kelly would be starter game 1....been posting it since last March. Even linked the March post. I'm not questioning them making him the game 1 starter...never have been.
You seem mad. Are you mad because the coaches know more about football than you or because noone on t-net cares that you are withholding your precious judgement? You are likely one of “those” fans who would boo a student athlete because you did not get your way
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Re: *snicker*
Aug 28, 2018, 2:39 PM
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Eggttt...wrong...Alumni. I have no prejudices against any of them...I simply look at what his performances have been, 2015, 2016, 2017...see the similarity between all 3 years that the stats back up 100% (deep passing issues, which he was 25.6% completions on, that even another guy on this board showed just the other day that 67% of this very same board lacked confidence in only a year and a half ago), and saw the same in the spring game...and sorry, I don't just take word for it basing on non-live practices. I'll believe more in his "improvements" the minute I see it against a formidable FBS opponent...like maybe game 2.
Care to go for round 2??
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Re: *snicker*
Aug 28, 2018, 3:52 PM
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Tigerman, no gives a crap about your opinion on who should start at quarterback. YOU HAVE NO SAY SO. God, your a PITA.
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The propaganda is strong this year!
Aug 28, 2018, 12:13 PM
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Hope our WRs get enough opportunities to put up some good numbers...
WRU can't have another year of perception that the coot WRs produced more.
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Re: Tim Bourret leaks KB's Scrimmage Stats
Aug 28, 2018, 12:13 PM
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leaked alright. took it right from the coaches mouth from his news conference. fake news.
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Re: Tim Bourret leaks KB's Scrimmage Stats
Aug 28, 2018, 12:28 PM
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Oh well Bentley and have thrown for over 400 yards and gone 32-32. #number1overallpick #GOAT
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Re: Tim Bourret leaks KB's Scrimmage Stats
Aug 28, 2018, 12:32 PM
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Is it considered leaking when the head football coach had announced those same stats at a press conference at or before it was tweeted???
:-p
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I haven't listened to the press conference yet
Aug 28, 2018, 12:41 PM
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Tim did give more precise figures than Dabo did.
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Re: I haven't listened to the press conference yet
Aug 28, 2018, 12:45 PM
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Fake News
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Trevor Lawrence combined stats same scrimmages:
Aug 28, 2018, 1:26 PM
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19-35 for 216, no TDs 1 int - Tim Bourret
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Re: Here's the link
Aug 28, 2018, 3:01 PM
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1. he didn't say who's that was...
2. Not be be the devil's advocate, but still isn't enough info...KB 4 TD's (run or pass)?? yes that matters. TL, no TD's (were the RZ play calls all runs for the RB's? yes, that'd matter too)
3. Hate to bring this up, but his info is already conflicting the coaches. So who are we to believe in this, Tim, or the coaches?
https://twitter.com/TimBourret/status/1034468026752659458
^ so he says it was 2 scrimmages, and mostly against the 1st string D.
https://www.tigernet.com/story/football/Quick-Hits-Thursday-Scrimmage-Insider-Bryant-has-his-best-day-17128
https://www.tigernet.com/story/football/Swinney-says-Bryant-had-his-best-day-in-Thursdays-full-scrimmage-17129
^Swinney said the first team defense didn't allow a score.
^Swinney says Bryant has multiple TD's in that same scrimage.
Hmmmmm...that conflicts with itself. So how did most of the numbers come against the first string defense, if they mostly seem to have been in the scrimmage in which Dabo said himself the first string didn't allow a score??
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Re: Here's the link
Aug 28, 2018, 3:25 PM
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Right but he said "mostly came against"...that insiunutes he was against first string in both....reality is he wasn't...or it's saying that most of those stats were in the first scrimmage, not the second one Dabo said was his best (as seen, he says the other 2 in the 2nd were against the 2's).
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Re: Here's the link
Aug 28, 2018, 3:31 PM
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You just misquoted him again. He said "many" not "most" achieved against the first team defense. In fact, his later quote set the number of TDs against the first team defense at half (no mention of the yardage).
https://twitter.com/TimBourret/status/1034515308608987138
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Re: Here's the link
Aug 28, 2018, 3:29 PM
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or, he says "many of those numbers achieved came against"...same thing. People would read that as if he played both scrimmages against the 1's, which the coaches already confirmed the second was never against the 1's. Actual is he produced half of the TD's against the 1's, half against the 2's. Now what we need to know...1. Wree they all passes, and 2. If so (which I'd assume not being live they likely were), were they behind the line screens, short 0-10 passes, 10-20 passes, or 20+. There was only a few areas he needed improvement in. You don;t think you'd want to know if any of them were in that or if they were in areas he already was doing fine in?
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Re: Here's the link
Aug 28, 2018, 3:35 PM
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> Now what we need to know...
Not really. We don't need to know anything else. No matter how much data they provide, some people (like yourself) are going to second guess them. I trust the coaches to make the right decision and I believe them when they said they graded everything and KB came out ahead.
In addition, I happen to think it's quite likely that KB won't be the starter by the end of the season.
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Re: Here's the link
Aug 28, 2018, 3:42 PM
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I wouldn't second guess if we knew that. You hear he's "made improvements", but you don't think that would show if he has. 2 TD's, both of them screens from behind the line of scrimmage...are you going to say that shows he's improved his 25.6% last year deep ball inaccuracy? Or a 5 yard pass to renfrow, and a 5 yard outside throw to Higgins, they run the rest...does that show he improved his 5.6 in the air average from last year? But would finding out both passes were a 20 yard pass into the endzone and a 35 yard pass to the 5? I think it does honestly matter. But hey, we'll see how it is...not against Furman obviously, as that's no better than him doing it vs Kent State.
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Re: Here's the link
Aug 28, 2018, 3:12 PM
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Also notice that in that Tigernet report, Dabo also said Trevor had a good day. Those stats are 54.2% completions, 0 TD's 1 INT...doesn't seem like that'd match Trevor if Dabo is saying he had a good day. Sounds more like Brice's.
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What they say now!
Aug 28, 2018, 1:27 PM
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Go Tigers!
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people can come up with statistics to prove anything
Aug 28, 2018, 1:52 PM
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Forfty percent of all people know that...
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Isn't he retired?***
Aug 28, 2018, 3:20 PM
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Re: Tim Bourret leaks KB's Scrimmage Stats
Aug 28, 2018, 3:26 PM
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There won’t be any real statistics until about 3:45 pm Saturday.
And there truly won’t be any meaningful real statistics until about midnight September 8th. Let’s just relax and wait for the important stuff. 1-0, 2-0, ...
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Fake news
Aug 28, 2018, 3:59 PM
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One of the last Scrimmages 1st team O didnt face 1st team D
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How many YAC on those plays?***
Aug 28, 2018, 9:37 PM
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