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Orange Blooded [2693]
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Is Trump doing a quid pro quo with NY AG
Mar 25, 2020, 11:17 AM
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Pitting 50 states against each other, having them beg for his help like they were on the apprentice is the charge.
Is he guilty or innocent? Without any evidence, the claim seems dubious.
If true, this kind of maneuver would make even Machiavelli or Sun Zu look like chumps. You have to wonder if he would have thought of that himself though, or if that was Rudy's suggestion.
I can see him saying something like, "you drop the lawsuits, I'll ship the ventilators."
But he doesn't seem to mind letting the states fight it out on their own, and that itself creates more problems. Chaos isn't a solution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/opinion/trump-nyc-coronavirus.html
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All-In [47795]
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Romney is quarantining
Mar 25, 2020, 11:25 AM
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gee that's too bad
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Orange Blooded [2693]
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yeah, you are right, he is that petty and cruel***
Mar 25, 2020, 11:46 AM
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All-In [47795]
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when I heard that I
Mar 25, 2020, 1:06 PM
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shocked ... but not really that shocked.
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I love how the GOP hates it's only member with a moral
Mar 25, 2020, 12:14 PM
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compass
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All-In [47795]
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so he NOW has a moral compass but back when running
Mar 25, 2020, 1:11 PM
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against the Nigerian Messiah he was an evil capitalist who broke up and sold companies and the expense of the werking pour
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All-In [47795]
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Re: so he NOW has a moral compass but back when running
Mar 25, 2020, 1:12 PM
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of course I meant Kenyan or whatever
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Too paranoid, profu... the stuff CooOmo requested
Mar 25, 2020, 11:28 AM
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Is on the way. Union teamsters probably slowing things, getting their cuts. I think CooOmo/Debasto are in CYA mode for not tightening down earlier...
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So NYC wants all 20K Fed Ventilators?
Mar 25, 2020, 11:38 AM
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TFB.
Why should NY get them all when there are other cities/states in need?
You're getting 20% of the Fed Stockpile. Be grateful for those.
Because in a few days/weeks, other parts of the country will need them and they'll be fawked.
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Orange Blooded [2693]
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scarce resources are the problem
Mar 25, 2020, 11:43 AM
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it's not going to be easy one to solve unless we can prevent massive influx of hospitalizations, which is a big and risky unknown.
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The problem is that NY needs them NOW. If the fear is that
Mar 25, 2020, 12:05 PM
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other states won't be able to get them after NY's apex (Cuomo said he'd pay to ship them wherever they need to go), then the only reason they wouldn't be shipped anywhere is because New Yorkers still needed them. Then the discussion becomes "is a Nebraskan more important than a New Yorker, or not?"
Not employing them when they're desperately needed today is more than a little bit fucked up.
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Re: So NYC wants all 20K Fed Ventilators?
Mar 25, 2020, 3:06 PM
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TFB.
Why should NY get them all when there are other cities/states in need?
You're getting 20% of the Fed Stockpile. Be grateful for those.
Because in a few days/weeks, other parts of the country will need them and they'll be fawked.
Agreed. That's why Trump should have invoked the Defense Production Act 3 weeks ago and had companies re-tool and start churning them out. People will die without them.
Trump still hasn't invoked the Act, but said he will in "a worst-case scenario". I'm not sure how many dying for lack of ventilators and medical supplies is required to qualify as "worst-case".
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Re: Is Trump doing a quid pro quo with NY AG
Mar 25, 2020, 12:04 PM
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I like how Pelosi holds up aid for the American people but accused Trump of holding up aid to a foreign nation.
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This isn't what happened but ok***
Mar 25, 2020, 12:14 PM
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