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Leaving the game
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Leaving the game


Oct 4, 2015, 2:25 AM

Leaving Clemson, soon to head back to Chicago.
Exciting game, congrats to your tigers about the win.
Unfortunately, a significant portion of your fans don't know how to win and were serious ### holes to me and my friends. I have been following the Irish to away games for over s decade and just had my worst experience. Two different guys got in my face and another screamed as us . Enjoyed the visit and wish your team good luck but your fans need to put some action behind the southern hospitality nonsense they talk about

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#savage***


Oct 4, 2015, 2:30 AM



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..when you say "signiifcant" portions, how many do you...


Oct 4, 2015, 2:30 AM

..mean exactly? Sadly, 1 would be too much IMHO and I'm sorry you were treated rudely....

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Oct 4, 2015, 2:32 AM

Sorry (not sorry) your team lost. Bye bye

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Oct 4, 2015, 2:33 AM

I'm sorry you had people in your face but I seriously doubt the majority of our fans were hostile in any way

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Our fans weren't, they were nice to ND fans after the game***


Oct 4, 2015, 3:43 AM



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Sorry that a few fans ruined your trip...most visiting fans


Oct 4, 2015, 2:36 AM

love the tailgating and sing the praises of a Tigertown visit. Good luck the rest of the season...

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Sorry they acted like that....


Oct 4, 2015, 2:44 AM

That's not what we're about....

We only supposed to act like this when USuCk fans are in DV....

Travel safely.....

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Tiger fans obligated to apologize to this guy?


Oct 4, 2015, 4:43 AM

Grow some balls. Football isn't all rainbows and butterflies. Not sure about some of you, it's called DEATH VALLEY for a reason. Bring your own guts - or stay home. No one should come to our house and walk around like they own the joint. The recent "sportsmanship" push at clemson is really kind of sickening to me. This isn't Better Homes and Gardens. This is Saturday night in the South.

All in.

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All I can say is: the score was way closer than the game itself!


Oct 4, 2015, 4:54 AM

TiGERS kicked some ?? Buttt!

GO??TiGERS!

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exactly, only thing ND had were the refs***


Oct 4, 2015, 1:05 PM



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Agree


Oct 4, 2015, 12:13 PM [ in reply to Tiger fans obligated to apologize to this guy? ]

We don't need to be jerks, but too many here care too much about PC crap. Boo hooo a fan yelled at an opposing fan.

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THANK YOU. TIRED OF THE NICE BS. its not reciprocated***


Oct 4, 2015, 5:17 PM [ in reply to Tiger fans obligated to apologize to this guy? ]



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Oct 4, 2015, 2:45 AM

Just wait until you travel to Athens, GA or Columbia, SC...you'll be happy to travel back to Death Valley for another @$$ kicking. Have a good, long, slow trip back to Chicago. Dance a few more jigs for us while you're at it.

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i wouldn't call a 2 point win an as$ kicking.


Oct 4, 2015, 2:57 AM

I also wouldn't go on a teams message board and ##### about a few bad apples.

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Very, Very Excited. Very, Very Proud.


If it wasn't for the refs it would have been a whooping***


Oct 4, 2015, 3:44 AM



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Good ole ACC refs! Worse than ever. Take 10 minutes to


Oct 4, 2015, 10:01 AM

look at one play for the any minuscule piece of indisputable evidence that they never found but overruled our completion anyway. Terrible most of the night as usual!

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Oct 4, 2015, 10:21 AM

I thought they got the call correct...Renfrow did lose possession of the ball before regaining it..by then it was too late.

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No matter who the refs are ND always gets bad calls in their


Oct 4, 2015, 1:06 PM [ in reply to Good ole ACC refs! Worse than ever. Take 10 minutes to ]

favor.

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you were sitting next to


Oct 4, 2015, 2:47 AM

@GWPTiger, weren't you?

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"I've been working since I was 15 continually until now. I worked 40 hours a week at 15, when it wasn't even legal for 15 year olds to work that many hours."


Good game and drive safe.***


Oct 4, 2015, 2:50 AM



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I find that really hard to believe


Oct 4, 2015, 3:00 AM

Sorry somebody yelled at you, but ####, it happens sometimes.

If that was by far your worst experience then you must have only attended cupcake games before

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Sorry that happened. It seems out of the ordinary.


Oct 4, 2015, 3:00 AM

But, would you like some unsolicited advice from us? I'm going to assume you do since you just gave us unsolicited advice.

Maybe swallow some of that "we are Notre Dame, we're just better than you" pride when coming into someone else's house. If you do that and show your hosts a little more respect you might be treated with more respect too.

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.the incidents I've seen at Clemson games usually...


Oct 4, 2015, 3:07 AM

..involve the "it takes two to tango" thing. The apparent aggrieved party usually had done *something* to aggravate the situation or provoke the other person....

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Most of the ND fans were cool, but there were a few...


Oct 4, 2015, 3:45 AM

that were way too drunk. Maybe the OP is one of those guys.

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Oct 4, 2015, 3:08 AM

But a couple bad fans do not represent the fanbase as a whole. I saw a Notre Dame fan get escorted out by police for taunting Tiger fans and throwing things from the upper deck down to the lower deck. I don't think all Notre Dame fans are like that guy. I for one spoke to every Notre Dame fan I saw kindly before, during, and after the game. If you want to see some real terrible fans go pay a visit to the Bulldogs in Athens, Georgia. Then you might change your mind. Go Tigers

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Oct 4, 2015, 3:15 AM

Wonder what he would say if ND won. Sounds like a lot of sour grapes to me. You got beat. Swallow your ND pride and drive safely.

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Oct 4, 2015, 3:14 AM

I honestly don't believe that one bit. Visitors always brag on our welcoming to the Valley. I also will say every ND fan I encountered had a stuck up attitude and just talked about how great ND was and that's about it. I gave them a fair chance but this will be my last time welcoming the fighting redheads

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..no team quite lives on past reputation quite like ND....


Oct 4, 2015, 3:25 AM

..does and the media eats it up. The college football world has moved on and ND is no longer the center of the universe....

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Hey man, every fan base has those fans


Oct 4, 2015, 3:36 AM

Nothing we as whole can do about it. Obviously if you saw 80,000 Clemson fans and can only bring up 2 who got rude then i guess then rest of the 79,998 fans weren't so bad. Sry for your experience, good luck rest of the season

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That's complete BS, I saw a ton of Clemson fans being very..


Oct 4, 2015, 3:42 AM

cordial to Notre Dame fans after the game. I went out of my way to several different ND fans to tell them their team played hard and good luck with the rest of their season. It seems you just can't take a loss. Get over it, it's been a long time since Tony Rice and Tim Brown. Your team simply isn't a powerhouse anymore. And your team couldn't even win the game with the refs helping them out the whole night.

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Sorry for the bad experience, that's not us.


Oct 4, 2015, 4:15 AM

But I suppose you reap what you sow.

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=17913512

Hospitality goes both ways.

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I call BS...quit being a sore loser and go home...


Oct 4, 2015, 5:12 AM

with an L

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Re: I call BS...quit being a sore loser and go home...


Oct 4, 2015, 6:15 AM

Since the days of Frank Howard, the supposed "top teams from the north" have avoided coming down to DV because they knew their record would have a blemish on it. When they finally grow the courage to visit, they expect some sort of "aw-shucks we shore do like havin' yawl brang your yankee money sir" attitude. The truth is we are a powerhouse program that boasts a national title, many conference championships and a history of winning. Not including the ACC (those teams know their place and for the most part understand our passion), most out of conference schools spend too much time listening to ESPN and expect us to be soft. Then we punch them in the mouth. They don't like it, so they resort to the redneck jokes. Unfortunately, that exposes their ignorance because Clemson is a we respected school that produces generation after generation of highly qualified engineers, teachers, soldiers and too many others to list here.

I have been coming to DV as a fan, student or alumni since 1978, and I can count on one hand how many programs showed up and (as a whole) and showed class. I realize everyone, even us, has a small few that should probably stay home, but I'm talking about as a group......Texas A&M were good guests, Missouri, Rice and Boston College (the Flutie era version).

It's okay to hate us, we expect you to, because Clemson is back.

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Boston College fans have been very nice since they joined...


Oct 4, 2015, 1:09 PM

the ACC. They have been very respectful towards Clemson.

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Good. You probably brought your Yankee ######## attitude


Oct 4, 2015, 5:50 AM

and needed it checked. Glad some of my boys could help you out. #### Notre Dame, #### you, and good riddance.

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There's something in these hills.


^^^^^This.***


Oct 4, 2015, 1:09 PM



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It was more like a jerk off ND fan attitude...


Oct 4, 2015, 1:12 PM [ in reply to Good. You probably brought your Yankee ######## attitude ]

ND has fans all over the place, not just up north. I have come across numerous jerk off ND fans throughout the year, that are from right here in SC.

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Oct 4, 2015, 6:51 AM

Lol you're the one person who will ever say something bad about Clemson's fans. We are known from coast to coast as being one of the greatest fanbases in the country. Take that crap and your L back up north

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Sorry. I've been Notre Dame.


Oct 4, 2015, 7:31 AM

You have a beautiful campus and I have much respect for your history. We went to the bookstore there and my son wore a Notre Dame shirt he got there for years.

That said, when it comes to football, in the words of Taylor Swift, we have bad blood.

What you felt (besides alcohol and relief from being soaked for hours) was the pent up anger from 38 years of having to live with that ### hole legend coach of yours, Dan Devine, giving our crowd the finger after little old Clemson had the audacity to almost beat his team in 1977.

See you up there in 5 years.

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just to clear on what's going on here, how many of those away


Oct 4, 2015, 7:51 AM

game experiences were losses for you? I'm thinking your shiny little domes just may be unjustifiably arrogant and it's stinging.

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Oct 4, 2015, 7:57 AM
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I've only seen that happen if you had instigated,


Oct 4, 2015, 8:06 AM

Or not kept your mouth shut.

Look, when some drunk fan says something smart ### to you when your leaving the game, the smart thing to do is just pretend you you didn't hear it and keep going. Happend to me several times at UGa last year.

But you probably let your Domer arrogance get in the way and you responded back w some smart ### answer, which would lead to more yelling.

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Oct 4, 2015, 8:28 AM

you've kind of been a ###### on here so I wouldn't be surprised if there's an otherside to the story we're not hearing

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


Not tolerated at Clemson


Oct 4, 2015, 8:52 AM

I'm an "old" alumni (55 years young) and one of the things I brag about Clemson on is that it is very rare when a student does anything to disrespect CU, on campus or off, and it carries with them for the rest of their lives. I'm sorry for what happened, but I can safely say that it is indeed a rarity. I've been to other campuses where that behavior is common (and have you been to an NFL game lately?) It's not only uncommon at Clemson, but it's also not tolerated.

Thank you for coming to the game, and safe travels,

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Oct 4, 2015, 8:56 AM

Beat it dork. No one cares about you OR your fan base

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Maybe you should have hung out with this group...


Oct 4, 2015, 9:43 AM

Seems they had a more "friendly" experience.


http://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=1490853&tstart=0

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The amount of head in the sand responses here is


Oct 4, 2015, 9:57 AM

unbelievable. People here complain about how bad fans are at UGA and SCar and think every Clemson fan is perfect, and then when a visitor comes on here and says that's not the case, people here start attacking him (especially Tigerking79). I hate to break it to y'all but every fan base has fans like that, Clemson is no exception. Although most are nice, I have seen some of our fans act like a$$es before. I'm not saying people here should be obligated to say sorry to this guy, but attacking him is uncalled for. Get your head out of the sand.


Also this is not directed to the few of you in this thread that responded appropriately. Rant over, go Tigers!

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Oct 4, 2015, 10:36 AM

Right - they exist at every school. The ND fan has been lucky to avoid it at other schools.

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Enjoy your shamecocks having a losing season meth head***


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Re: Enjoy your shamecocks having a losing season meth head***


Oct 4, 2015, 1:54 PM

I have the same reaction to the ND female fan right in front of me. Screamed in our ears entire 4th quarter then when the game was in hand she grabs her kids and says "let's go I don't want to hear the yell". So yeah my experience with ND fans was bad.

Not to mention the 60 something dude who was so drunk he fell twice on me. Yeah. GO HOME

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Oct 4, 2015, 3:44 PM [ in reply to The amount of head in the sand responses here is ]

Maybe you should cry about it some more?

That's all there is for you to do since you lost to the "other" worst team in the SEC Least yesterday.

SEC is a joke.

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Oct 4, 2015, 4:57 PM [ in reply to The amount of head in the sand responses here is ]

Another #### loving loser.

How about that Mizzou game!

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Significant portion? Doubtful.


Oct 4, 2015, 10:08 AM

A few? Probably.

I promise we have some of the most hospitable and knowledgable fans in the game.

I hate it happened, but really doubt it was a significant portion of the fans in attendance.

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Oct 4, 2015, 10:35 AM

Sorry about that! I hope it was student, at least. I do not think that is a general way opposing fans are treated...

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Give Respect, gets Respect - it's reall that simple


Oct 4, 2015, 10:41 AM

I'm sure you didn't star running at the mouth in the last couple of minutes did you?

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He was a jerk on Tigernet so it's safe to assume that he


Oct 4, 2015, 10:47 AM

was a jerk at the game too

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Was it that way before the game as well?***


Oct 4, 2015, 10:44 AM



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Clemson


Maybe you were the ND guy sitting in front of us


Oct 4, 2015, 12:41 PM

Pi$$ing in the stands in front of us and deserved to be yelled at

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You're just lucky


Oct 4, 2015, 12:43 PM

Kelly didn't make you get into a scissor lift and film the game.

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Oct 4, 2015, 12:46 PM

Wow. I hate to hear you had a bad experience but I doubt anybody just walked up to you to get in your face and gloat. Gotta be more to the story than that.

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Oct 4, 2015, 12:48 PM

Safe travels to you. As for the experience. Your coach, players, and fans gave Clemson no respect. Not our players, our staff, or our traditions. I'm sorry that out of 120,000+ people in Clemson last night that 3 people could define your entire trip. That said. Take your loss, shut your whiney mouth, and have a safe trip home. Good luck the rest of the way.

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Oct 4, 2015, 12:53 PM

I would certainly love to hear the other side of this story. This is NOT typical, and I would bet the OP had a little to do with this. Probably told our fans how lucky we were not to be slaughtered by ND at our house. I can picture that. Our fans don't initiate that crap. And if it were only ONE fan, then geez man - there were 80K + fans there and 75K + of them were CLEMSON fans. So you found the ONE fan that would do that???

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Kinda like the way Irish fans treated me and my family


Oct 4, 2015, 1:03 PM

in 1979. Did you get things thrown at ya? We did.

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Oct 4, 2015, 1:03 PM

Have a safe trip home. If any of it is true I apologize but don't even try to vilify a fan base over 3 individuals as you claim. It's a bit shallow! Good luck the rest of the year and here's to having you guys as "full" ACC members very soon!

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Oct 4, 2015, 1:57 PM

Sorry you had that experience. The Irish fans sitting next to us in section H were nothing but complimentary of Clemson and the welcome they received. Everyone's experience is different I guess and every fancies has some not so good fans.

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Oct 4, 2015, 2:00 PM

who started it? that's the question?

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Oct 4, 2015, 2:18 PM

Interesting. There were two Notre Dame fans sitting around me, one of which had to have the cops come to settle him down due to wanting to fight and the other yelling obscenities the entire game. So 2/4 total Notre Dame fans I encountered vs 2/85000 Clemson fans being jerks...

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Are you the guy w a 6 year old and 8 year old at home


Oct 4, 2015, 2:43 PM

That visited our tailgate and we had to ask you stop w the F bombs since we had a child and women present ?? I figured letting you hang out and watch the games on our tv out of the rain would have prompted you to not act like a drunk sailor- which you and your two friends were

And it was 3:30 in the afternoon

You should try AA!

God bless

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Oct 4, 2015, 2:48 PM

I honestly had a terrible experience with ND fans downtown and around prior to, during, and after the game. Many of the folks y'all brought down with you were rude, unnecessarily aggressive, and way too drunk compared to everyone else there. Grown men puking in the bushes and I had several try to start fights while I was minding my own business with friends. Sorry you had a poor experience with a couple Clemson fans, but the majority of ND fans I encountered were worse than Gamecock fans - and that's saying something.

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Oct 4, 2015, 2:52 PM

I apologize for our fans that got out of line, but quite frankly no one really cares. Nothing personal at all really. It's just when for two straight weeks all we hear is that Clemson won't win, it will drive people a little crazy.

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Oct 4, 2015, 3:00 PM

And to follow up to my first comment, I make an effort to welcome opposing fans to town and had much higher expectations for the Notre Dame fanbase, given that Clemson fans went out of their way to welcome y'all to tailgates and bars throughout the week. Heck, I've met fans from a long ways away and taken them hiking because they wanted to see the area. I don't think it's asking too much to expect a little personal respect from y'all when in town.

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Oct 4, 2015, 3:01 PM

Notre Dame fans are so arrogant. The need to get over themselves because the rest of college football has.

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Notre Dame fans know how to dish it out, but not how to take


Oct 4, 2015, 3:02 PM

it. If you really are a ND fan...

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You go to the away game? You must love losing!!!!! ND sucks!


Oct 4, 2015, 3:03 PM

nm

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Oct 4, 2015, 3:17 PM

"...Two different guys got in my face and another screamed as us..."

3/82,000 = .00365%

does NOT equate to "a significant portion of" fan base...

FAIL....

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Oct 4, 2015, 3:22 PM

Usually when your team's players talk #### about our guys it flows down hill. If you can't take a few drunk fans acting stupid then maybe you shouldn't go to live games. You are from Chicago and bitching about our fans?

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Night games = more alcohol. Very tense game. Sorry you


Oct 4, 2015, 4:52 PM

Had a bad experience. It happens. I'd say we are better than most however.

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Oct 4, 2015, 5:07 PM

Our fans should not act like that but then again --and this is a fact not an excuse--we really didn't need to hear how great ND was all week, what great O and D lines they had, what a fantastic receiver they had and your dumb ### coach felt--"they've been in this position with loud noise many time before"! Really? Sure the historical ND teams have but not THIS team and it showed.
Candidly there were ND fans I saw who talked like nothing but arrogant ND grads! So, if it's too much for you just stay home next time.
Your football team talked trash all week especially number 7 who got totally shut down with 3 receptions for 37 or so yards. Your lines were slow and your O line basically holds on every pass protection set. So take your crap and peddle it in Chicago. Personally, I've known several of your grads and found them to be among the most arrogant jack asres I've ever met!
BTW, you just were very lucky that none of your players got cheap shotted like your freaking team did to Watson on the very first play directly in front of me after he was 5 yards out of bounds! So take your holier than thou attitude partner and shove it you know where.
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Lugubrious***


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Oct 4, 2015, 5:13 PM

If it didn't rain we would have kicked your team #### by 50

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DONT COME BACK. SAW TOO MUCH OF THAT ARROGANCE


Oct 4, 2015, 5:15 PM

Last night. The few a encountered reminded me of Columbia scum as I heard lots of mouth and a few middle fingers.

Most pampered and catered to football program in the history of college football. Sad that the game shouldn't have even been close.

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