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Re: Another installment of "ring ceremony"***
Apr 18, 2018, 11:36 AM
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Oculus Spirit [80999]
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I got an email this morning about the ring ceremony
Apr 18, 2018, 11:39 AM
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Made me stumble down memory lane
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Its like a gender reveal party on steriods***
Apr 18, 2018, 12:01 PM
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Lot o points [155706]
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We were also paying <$1500/semester.
Apr 18, 2018, 12:03 PM
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You gotta put a little more polish on everything when that goes up tenfold.
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Oculus Spirit [80999]
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Truth
Apr 18, 2018, 12:06 PM
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Hardin Hall being under construction for 3+ years was a little more palatable at $3k/year.
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How about Hardin Hall pre-reconstruction with no A/C,
Apr 18, 2018, 12:24 PM
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splintered floors, drywall peeling, and the musky unfiltered air of hygienically challenged students? Oh and even more palatable at $2400 a year.
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Oculus Spirit [83016]
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Dr. Schaefer the lil' short Jewish guy with a beard who was
Apr 18, 2018, 4:33 PM
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head of the history dept., let us smoke in class if we brought our ashtray, and forbade us to take notes.
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Great guy***
Apr 18, 2018, 6:44 PM
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Found this online. Holy crap.
Apr 18, 2018, 12:26 PM
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Talk about death by $1000 cuts. Up it by $1000-1500 a year so mom and dad don't scream so loud.
http://www.clemson.edu/oirweb1/fb/OIRWebpage/TuitionAndFees.htm
Full-Time Undergraduate Tuition and Fees
Source: Bursar's Office (Tuition for an academic year)
Year
Resident ($)
Non-Resident ($)
1985-1986
1,682
3,910
1986-1987
1,922
4,470
1987-1988
2,090
5,130
1988-1989
2,220
5,830
1989-1990
2,364
6,326
1990-1991
2,470
6,600
1991-1992
2,630
7,028
1992-1993
2,762
7,380
1993-1994
2,954
7,896
1994-1995
3,036
8,116
1995-1996
3,112
8,316
1996-1997
3,112
8,316
1997-1998
3,252
8,676
1998-1999
3,344
9,100
1999-2000
3,470
9,456
2000-2001
3,590
9,784
2000-2001
5,090
11,284
2002-2003
5,834
12,932
2003-2004
6,934
14,532
2004-2005
7,840
16,404
2005-2006
8,886
18,440
2006-2007
9,400
19,824
2007-2008
9,870
21,800
2008-2009
10,608
23,630
2009-2010
11,078
25,388
2010-2011
11,908
27,420
2011-2012
12,304
28,462
2012-2013
12,674
29,600
2013-2014
13,054
30,488
2014-2015
13,446
31,462
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Oculus Spirit [75683]
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Good luck, parents.
Apr 18, 2018, 12:28 PM
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Though I suppose a fair study should be done to examine added value.
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Lot o points [155706]
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Added value?
Apr 18, 2018, 12:39 PM
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In 1998 when I graduated, I took a job making $35k (which was on the lower end of what a lot of my friends were making---they studied harder, such is life).
That's about $53k in today's dollars. You really think the average Clemson student (who is now leaving with mid-5 figures in debt versus me with virtually none) is getting $53k for their first gig?
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Exactly. I started at $17,500 my first job in 1980, butt
Apr 18, 2018, 1:06 PM
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plug that into an inflation calculator and it equals $56K/year now. Good lord, I was rich. Had a nice apartment at $225/month, and that included all utilities including cable TV. Plus, we didn't have as many bills back then... no cell phone, internet, etc. I was making more money than I knew what to do with... ate out every meal and threw money around town like it grew on trees. I remember getting paid twice a month, and I'd stick a Ben Franklin in savings from every check. That's $200/month... I'm living like a king and saving the equivalent of $700 every month in today's dollars.
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oh, and health insurance was free, included with the job...***
Apr 18, 2018, 1:41 PM
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Oculus Spirit [75683]
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I'm just saying an analysis should be done.
Apr 18, 2018, 4:22 PM
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But what gives? Why are people still willing to pay these amounts?
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but they're not paying them. its all "free[ish]" to a
Apr 18, 2018, 4:24 PM
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college kid with loans
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Lot o points [155706]
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Honestly not sure man, but I think things are starting to
Apr 18, 2018, 4:26 PM
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shift a little. In my community here, I'm seeing a lot of families that are upper middle class, but are choosing to send their kid to a community college for free (Tennessee promise program) for two years and then transfer credits to a university for their final two years. Guarantee you they wouldn't have even considered that route 10-15 years ago.
They've tested the price elasticity of a college education pretty well, and I think they have, or are about to cross a red line with a lot of people.
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I'd say the added value is there
Apr 18, 2018, 4:42 PM
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I went back to Clemson in 2008.
At the time I was making 45k a year, but taking 3 years off and going 30k into debt were the prudent moves, and my first Job out of school started me at 68k, then I moved on to my next one which got me into the 80's, and up to the 90's before I left for California and a significant pay bump.
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Lot o points [155706]
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Yep. In 1985 a VW Golf was about $10k.
Apr 18, 2018, 12:34 PM
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There'd be rioting in the streets if a similar car cost $100k today.
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LOL, in Greenr's time, it went from $3590 to $8886
Apr 18, 2018, 1:13 PM
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Just LOL. Coincides with the increase in state scholarships from lottery and the #1 Public College ranking. I remember that first big increase, people were flipping out. Now they do it every year, $1k each time.
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It all started with effin Barker.
Apr 18, 2018, 1:36 PM
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Dude came in hellbent to make the public university ranking his calling card and he turned the place into a country club to do so.
It would be awesome if job recruiters were now trying to choose between going to Clemson or Stanford's job fair, but they're not....not much has changed on the output side for graduates that I can tell.
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I put that table you had in excel and calculated % increase
Apr 18, 2018, 1:39 PM
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2000-2001 - 42%
2002-2003 - 15%
2003-2004 - 19%
2004-2005 - 13%
2005-2006 - 13%
These are the outliers and the exact time Greenr was there. The rest are 3-7% usually (86-87 was 14% or $240)
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Lot o points [155706]
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Yep, and that's what I'm saying....if you run the percents
Apr 18, 2018, 1:41 PM
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for the Lennon/Curris years, you'll see a big diff before Jimmy B's tenure.
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Don't get me wrong........I still love Clemson,
Apr 18, 2018, 1:55 PM
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I just don't like the way she's been used as a personal piggy bank for multiple individuals in leadership positions over the past couple decades.
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or the way she's being used to line the pockets of
Apr 18, 2018, 2:01 PM
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the Winkopps of the 29632 (i think that's the zip).
Last weekend I stood on the corner in front of Judge Kellers and everything above eye level for close to a 360 degrees around was new, ugly, and imposing. My $.02 of course. When I make it big with my bitcoin investment (gamble) I'm buying all of it and leveling it.
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The state of SC decided to cease funding higher education
Apr 18, 2018, 4:22 PM
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coincided roughly with the infamous Education Lottery enactment.
Similarly trends across all schools in SC.
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Interesting stuff.
Apr 18, 2018, 5:17 PM
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Had I gone to Clemson out of high school, and graduated in 4 years (do people even do that, besides football players?), I would have paid the same or a little less for my degree than a instate freshman is going to pay next year alone.
######## mane, ########.
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Pretty sure when I started in 1975 it was roughly $1500 a
Apr 18, 2018, 12:52 PM
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year, for everything, lock stock & barrel. Tuition, housing, meal card, etc. I remember that Furman was about $5K a year, and that seemed crazy expensive. I was a "Furman Scholar" based on my SAT score and could've gotten a partial academic scholarship, but it still would've been twice as expensive as Clemson. No way we could afford that....
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Yeah, in my day it was like...
Apr 18, 2018, 12:28 PM
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"You got a class ring? What the he l l for? I hate wearing rings!"
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Wedding ring the only piece of jewelry I've ever worn.***
Apr 18, 2018, 4:30 PM
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