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2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?
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2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 12:10 PM

http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=332920228

but it didn't mean the team that lost was garbage

it didn't mean they weren't a program on the rise

it didn't mean their receivers weren't good

it didn't mean that their QB wasn't good and wouldn't be replaced by anyone better

it didn't mean they were so far away that they could never beat that team

They just ran into the wrong team on the wrong day and weren't ready for what hit them. At the end of the day, you guys probably don't even remember this game because you shouldn't , but you shouldn't act like NC State is done over events that took place for one game. Everyone has a bad game.

Its just one game. Get some perspective.

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You haven’t recruited anywhere near the level that Clemson has.


Oct 21, 2018, 12:14 PM

You are absolutely fooling yourself if you think your sorry team is anywhere near as good as Clemson in 2013. Your talent is nowhere close to being a top ten team. I mean have mercy you guys can’t even beat South Carolina and you think you can beat the type of teams we continue to beat year in and year out? Our guys sleepwalk into games with N.C. State and still end up winning. But guess what? Your team and your coaches got the full attention of the Tigers after their trash talking. It sucks to be them right now.

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 12:20 PM

Lol the 2013 Clemson team would drag this year's state team up and down the field.

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 12:34 PM

I will be pulling for State to win out, go 11-1 and beat an overrated SEC team in a NY6 bowl.

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 12:36 PM

Dude worry about beating UNC , Duke, And WF the only thing you will ever win is maybe the State of NC.

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 7:10 PM

E. Carolina is most years the state champ of NC. This year might be App State.

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or WCU


Oct 23, 2018, 12:58 PM

wait NM wcu sucks again

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You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well.


Oct 21, 2018, 12:44 PM

You weren’t then and you aren’t now. The best you can expect to achieve at NC State is being the occasional spoiler.

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Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well.


Oct 21, 2018, 1:07 PM

You thought you were on the rise under Bowden but thats not relevant to this game. Why did this game go so poorly? You lost by more than us and you were at home. Program over, right?



You can tell its a rivalry by the way Clemson fans have such vile bias and hatred towards NCSU. Even more than our fans towards Clemson. That can only mean you see us as a threat.

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You are one deluded ignorant fan.


Oct 21, 2018, 3:23 PM

You have no idea what it takes to build an elite program because you’ve never been close to having one. We played 84 count em 84 players yesterday and still won by 34 points. You are completely clueless. You have mediocre teams in your best years and are one of the 25 worst programs of all time. You’re an occasional spoiler. Nothing more. Congratulations on being in the same class as Purdue.

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Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well.


Oct 21, 2018, 3:36 PM [ in reply to Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well. ]

Yes, I'm so threatened by a team we're 16-3 against this millennium. A team we haven't lost to since 2011. A team who's calling card is "we came close to beating you". Don't fool yourself into thinking the hate is because we're threatened. The hate is because you have a loudmouth, whining, asshat for a head coach and a loudmouth fanbase that talks far more than they can back up.

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Nope - never thought program was over - just had a bad


Oct 21, 2018, 3:36 PM [ in reply to Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well. ]

game with much being self-inflicted. Most of what happened yesterday was Tiger- inflicted ( with a little help from calls like a fake punt - better reduce those if you hope to improve).

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Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well.


Oct 21, 2018, 3:39 PM [ in reply to Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well. ]



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A threat? That’s not why the harsh words


Oct 21, 2018, 3:40 PM [ in reply to Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well. ]

It’s all about respect . Texas AM , BC, Auburn, heck I respect what Barbers has done at Syracuse.

Your school- pretty sure you haven’t earned much. You have a trophy case full of dust , a coach who had yesterday’s woodshed whipping coming and a stadium of drunks.

Basically it’s like Maryland never left with your over inflated program still around.

Go out your Phillip Rivers jersey back on and clean your room

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A threat? That’s not why the harsh words


Oct 21, 2018, 3:41 PM [ in reply to Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well. ]

It’s all about respect . Texas AM , BC, Auburn, heck I respect what Barbers has done at Syracuse.

Your school- pretty sure you haven’t earned much. You have a trophy case full of dust , a coach who had yesterday’s woodshed whipping coming and a stadium of drunks.

Basically it’s like Maryland never left with your over inflated program still around.

Go out your Phillip Rivers jersey back on and clean your room

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Yes, we see you as a threat.


Oct 21, 2018, 3:41 PM [ in reply to Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well. ]

Especially since you’ve beaten us one time in the last fifteen years.

No, the reason that some of us despise NC State is your trashy fans and your classless coaches. And we’re not alone. Look around at other conference teams’ message boards; you are hated because of the way you conduct yourselves, especially toward visiting fans.

Total trash. No threat on the field. That’s all there is to it.

The only way your program could get more pathetic is if your fans started going to other teams’ message boards, trying to convince people that State is a threat. And, well, here you are doing just that. Laughable.

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A threat? That’s not why the harsh words


Oct 21, 2018, 3:41 PM [ in reply to Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well. ]

It’s all about respect . Texas AM , BC, Auburn, heck I respect what Barbers has done at Syracuse.

Your school- pretty sure you haven’t earned much. You have a trophy case full of dust , a coach who had yesterday’s woodshed whipping coming and a stadium of drunks.

Basically it’s like Maryland never left with your over inflated program still around.

Go out your Phillip Rivers jersey back on and clean your room

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Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well.


Oct 21, 2018, 3:55 PM [ in reply to Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well. ]

You're right we think a team that has lost 13 of the last 14 meetings and the most recent one being by 5 scores is a threat.

BTW have you ever had a Clemson fan throw batteries at you?

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well.


Oct 21, 2018, 7:52 PM [ in reply to Re: You loudmouths thought you were on the rise under Amato as well. ]

Go pee in the stands

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I don't remember that game


Oct 21, 2018, 12:48 PM

never happened

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 3:33 PM

I don't know that I would make that exact correlation. But I would say this to NCSt......and its the same thing I yell at the TV every time they show Syracuse losing or beating some horrible team in 2OT (yeah, we all know who that is): Go REPRESENT!!!!! You lost to Clemson. OK, sucks for that weekend. But go play the others like you're capable of playing! Let's say Clemson wins the ACC and goes the CFP....those Tier One bowls still bring a lot of money, a lot of exposure to a program. Don't just give up and quit!

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Time for this clown to go


Oct 21, 2018, 3:45 PM

Crump®

B-Meist®

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There's something in these hills.


All I had to do was see your "handle" to know that


Oct 21, 2018, 3:46 PM

I didn't need to read any further.

Go Tigers!

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The 2013 Clemson team beat your tails in 2013


Oct 21, 2018, 3:46 PM

And every other year...you guys have only beat us once in 15 years. You have to earn the right to trash talk...

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 4:04 PM

I think a lot of the hatred can be attributed to the 2017 draft because seeing Alabama #1 NCSU #2 really goes against the narrative that DD has never done anything. This was a rebuilding year. Only Alabama could really brag about having more talent because they sent more people to the draft and still reloaded. Entire all american clemson dline came back for an extra year instead of being drafted.

Meanwhile Hines is scoring TDs for the colts.

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 4:15 PM




Yeah, we are furious that some players from NC state got drafted. we are so jealous, you figured it out..

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 4:26 PM [ in reply to Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this? ]

Wow, all those NFL studs and talent on last seasons roster and you still couldn’t beat us. All they were good for was 4 losses and yet another sub 10 win season for your mediocre program. But hey they got you that coveted Sun Bowl victory. Bet that was fun. I hear El Paso is quite the destination, especially in late December. Congrats on your NFL draft talent national championship runner up trophy.

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 4:31 PM

its not about that. its about clemson fans saying we have no talent because our recruiting rankings are low. the truth is our staff is just exceptional at developing talent which is how we put 3 and 4 star players in the draft. we are a threat because we were in lock step with clemsons 5 star players for 2 years and the fear is about what could happen if he ever brings in 4 or 5 star players.

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All those draft picks that NEVER beat Clemson


Oct 21, 2018, 4:35 PM

You must be so proud

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson - let's add some perspective


Oct 21, 2018, 6:30 PM [ in reply to Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this? ]

Your statement:
"We were in lock step with Clemson's 5-star players for 2 years and the fear is about what could happen if he ever brings in 4 or 5 star players"

NC State has beaten Clemson exactly 1 TIME since:
a. Facebook, the iPhone was invented, and gmail started.
b. In fact cell phones didn't even have cameras when the 14 of 15 streak started.
c. Hybrid Cars were introduced for sale and the Flu Shot was approved by the FDA.
d. The words podcast & waterboarding were added to the dictionary
e. The Dow Jones was in the mid-8000's

2. Literally on the heels of a 5 year losing streak to our actual rivals--no, NCSU is not a rival to us--we proceed to have the best 3-year streak in program history. You will eventually beat us. Well, maybe. But it won't change the trajectory of our program, and it also won't change the trajectory of yours. You are who you are and we are who we are. They are not the same, and will not be the same in any of our lifetimes.
a. You rank 51 of 65 P5 teams (5 conferences + Notre Dame), above only Duke and WF in the ACC
b. You are tied for 58 out of 65 teams with only four AP Top 5 rankings ever. We have 22 just since the start of last year--notice that is AFTER the consecutive seasons in the NC Game (That means National Championship game since you are not used to seeing the initials).
c. Since 2000, out of 304 polls, you have 1 single week in the Top 10. Today's poll is our 52nd CONSECUTIVE AP Top 10. Did you notice that I specifically went back to include the Philip Rivers' era in that one? I don't think your 'glory years' were quite as good as you want to believe.
d. Dabo will be our 5th Hall of Fame Coach. You, on the other hand, have Dave Doeren, Tom O'Brien, and Chuck Amato as your honor roll. The only decent coach you've had other Earle Edwards in the 1950's was #### Sheridan. And despite winning 5 of your 7 ACC Titles, Edwards finished with a overall losing record while in the ACC, at .468%. You have won two conference titles in the 48 years since he left, and 1 of those was a co-championship awarded after the fact when South Carolina was forced to vacate it.

If you think you smell fear here, your instincts are about as good as your head coach's excuses and conspiracy theories every time he loses. I am assuming you are just angry because you can't figure out why you aren't getting your participation trophy.

But hey, wait 'til next year, right?

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Oct 21, 2018, 8:35 PM [ in reply to Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this? ]



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Are you in concussion protocol, Wuffie?


Oct 21, 2018, 8:49 PM [ in reply to Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this? ]

Doesn't the glare of the monitor hurt your eyes? That headache is clearly debilitating! You do sound a lot like your Scok relatives...a LOT.

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Get a grip


Oct 21, 2018, 10:01 PM

You’re nowhere close.

2016 we sleptwalk through the game and gave you 3 turnovers as we were driving to score and a pick 6. Statistically you got dominated in the game and your coach and your team were too mentally fragile to be able to close out a game you were lucky to be in.

2017 we had basically 1 D1 corner and you took advantage of that severe lack of depth and the most talented defense couldn’t stop one of the weaker offenses we’ve had in recent memory.

It finally caught up to you this year and you’re going to get signficantly worse after this season when your QB, WR’s, and 3 OL are all gone.

We don’t dislike you because you’re a threat because you certainly aren’t. It’s because of idiots like you running your mouth when you clearly have no idea what’s going on. Limp on back to Raleigh knowing you’re probably looking at another beatdown like this next year.

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Re: 2018 NCSU is 2013 Clemson: Remember this?


Oct 21, 2018, 10:09 PM

NCSU does this often. Start out undefeated with weak schedule then break their fans hearts. Quit dreaming

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