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All-In [47795]
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Oculus Spirit [93609]
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Biden is trying to straddle the fence now.
Aug 24, 2020, 3:16 PM
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He clearly can't win on the promise to raise taxes. If he doesn't stick with that message the greenies on Bernie's team won't believe he is serious about fulling their marxist dreams and won't vote.
I do not believe he will ever face a real reporter, hard questions or a debate with Trump but anyone who takes a side on raising taxes can either believe what they want by ignoring half of what Joe promises or vote for Trump. It's just that simple.
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Oculus Spirit [80998]
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At some point, someone is going to have to run on the
Aug 24, 2020, 3:19 PM
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very unpopular platform of raising taxes, lowering benefits/programs and shrinking our military.
That will be the only person that is telling the truth.
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CU Medallion [56005]
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Someone should run on an actual healthcare reform platform.
Aug 24, 2020, 3:23 PM
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If healthcare costs could be reduced to reasonable levels, then government spending on Medicare and Medicaid would drop without cutting benefits.
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Oculus Spirit [80998]
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Thats going to necessarily involve gov't single payer.
Aug 24, 2020, 3:25 PM
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Because they are going to have to subsidize it for everyone.
There's at least ~4 million people who go for that right off the bat.
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CU Medallion [56005]
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It would involve a lot of regulation.
Aug 24, 2020, 3:40 PM
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I don't think single payer is the only solution.
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All-In [47795]
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how about just send republican voters over 60 to the wall?
Aug 24, 2020, 3:47 PM
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that would be a very socialist solution and appeal to the AOC / Castro loving crowd.
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CU Medallion [56005]
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You mean, like, make them join the Night's Watch?***
Aug 24, 2020, 4:03 PM
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All-In [47795]
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yeah, like Falwell could stay celibate with all those
Aug 25, 2020, 11:41 AM
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young lads around.
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Oculus Spirit [83011]
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Which is rich in Columbia, SC, but not
Aug 24, 2020, 3:23 PM
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in Naples, Fl., or Manhattan or SF or LA or Boca Raton...
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Oculus Spirit [80998]
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Or Nassau or Eleuthra
Aug 24, 2020, 3:25 PM
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even with no state income taxes.
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Orange Blooded [3512]
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Since my household income is less than that...
Aug 24, 2020, 3:24 PM
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seems like a reasonable number to me.
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Joe needs to be careful with the 'no new taxes' approach
Aug 24, 2020, 3:54 PM
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While the income bracket adjustment will be >$400k, there might be other ways tax burden is increased for lesser incomes. Changes in standard deduction, business/llc income, social security limits, etc.
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CU Medallion [56005]
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It's not like he's worried about reelection.***
Aug 24, 2020, 3:55 PM
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Hall of Famer [22935]
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Good point
Aug 24, 2020, 3:56 PM
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Re: Good point
Aug 25, 2020, 10:28 AM
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if you make less than 75k your employment tax will go up in 2021 anyway, funny how that kind of worked out.
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Re: Further to our discussion last week, Joe now defines rich:
Aug 24, 2020, 4:00 PM
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I don't think you can say making 400k is "rich". It depends where you live and your family. I don't think that's a good call.
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$400k ain't poor anywhere
Aug 24, 2020, 4:12 PM
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I know folks making $400k sending kids to private school in NYC. They're doing just fine.
$400k feels a whole lot better here in SC considering housing and taxes, though plenty of places to live like NYC prices if they'd like.
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isn't there a differenece between doing fine and being rich?***
Aug 24, 2020, 4:19 PM
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Orange Blooded [3512]
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Like everything else in life
Aug 24, 2020, 4:27 PM
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I don’t think there are really any absolutes...always depends on your perspective.
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Re: Further to our discussion last week, Joe now defines rich:
Aug 24, 2020, 5:27 PM
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I don’t understand how liberals can be rich. I thought they would give away anything over the avg income for their respective residence for the greater good. I mean why wouldn’t they live what they preach?
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Hall of Famer [22935]
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You think liberals work or even earn >$400k?
Aug 24, 2020, 5:34 PM
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I thought all libs were takers not makers.
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Re: You think liberals work or even earn >$400k?
Aug 24, 2020, 5:50 PM
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Liberals are the fabric that holds our nation together...
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