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Re: if you want to watch countries implode
Aug 20, 2018, 10:08 AM
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I would imagine letting wealth disparity continue to expand would do it a lot more efficiently.
Why are you guys only scared of downward wealth redistribution? Upward doesn't bother you at all. Explain why one is better.
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really? can you cite an example?***
Aug 20, 2018, 10:12 AM
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For a guy who used to have a scok named Cicero,
Aug 20, 2018, 10:23 AM
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you seem to be willfully ignoring history. Athens and Rome are both prime examples of populist revolt against oligarchy.
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are you talking the downfall of the Roman Republic?
Aug 20, 2018, 10:40 AM
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there were lots of moving parts but it wasnt really rich v. poors in the concentration of wealth sort of way. Cicero, Cato, etc... were not rich.
A closer analog would be the downfall of Czarist Russia but that's distinguishable as well.
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I think the market properly allocates resources
Aug 20, 2018, 11:03 AM
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including so-called "wealth"
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Re: I think the market properly allocates resources
Aug 20, 2018, 11:05 AM
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We don't have anything resembling a free market in America. That's why it's so odd that people think we have one.
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"We don't have anything resembling a free market in America"
Aug 20, 2018, 11:06 AM
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if that's really what you think, I can't help you
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Re: "We don't have anything resembling a free market in America"
Aug 20, 2018, 2:52 PM
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Like many, you probably assume that the things that limit a free market are only the things you don't like. But food regulations limit a free market, as does professional licensure. Plenty of things that we'd never want to get rid of are limits on a free market and those things are plentiful.
If we had a truly free market it would probably be a catastrophe.
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Re: I think the market properly allocates resources
Aug 20, 2018, 11:06 AM
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Also, huge lol at you wording your reply like wealth isn't a real thing.
You're so defensive of rich people that you need to act like what makes them rich isn't really there.
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the democrats definition of rich is anyone
Aug 20, 2018, 11:17 AM
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who doesnt vote for Democrats. either that or making over $200k.
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Re: if you want to watch countries implode
Aug 20, 2018, 1:03 PM
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There's enormous wealth distribution in this country already. Illegal aliens and their chain-migrated families (ever see how large a Spanish family is? Probably not) cost us $146 Billion per year. Don't even try to advocate socialism when we are most of the way there already with 47% of the population that doesn't get up and go to work in the morning. No country is going to succeed by taking from those who produce and giving it to those that do not.
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Re: if you want to watch countries implode
Aug 20, 2018, 1:45 PM
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Most of the way to a socialist country? The vast majority of those people not getting up and going to work each day are retired, a stay at home parent or still in school so what exactly do you want them to do?
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South Africa definitely has a bright future ahead***
Aug 20, 2018, 10:14 AM
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Monkeys could also fly out of my ###. I thought you would
Aug 20, 2018, 10:14 AM
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be a little bit above this fear-mongering.
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every Democrat I know is jerking it to Ocasio-Cortez***
Aug 20, 2018, 10:18 AM
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Every Clemson fan I know is jerking it to T Lawrence.
Aug 20, 2018, 10:21 AM
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That's about as relevant to the situation in South Africa as a congressional candidate in Brooklyn.
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thank goodness. this open infatuation with
Aug 20, 2018, 11:14 AM
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outright socialism is scary. I remember when the GOP was calling Obama socialist, it wasnt true but Democrats defended Obama by saying he's not socialist. now, just a few years later its embraced. Dare I say it, Obama is too conservative for today's Democrat party?
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Re: thank goodness. this open infatuation with
Aug 20, 2018, 11:26 AM
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don't worry alex, the current trend is for the extremely wealthy to keep increasing the gap and they have high priced lobbyists making sure this socialism thing never takes hold.
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how would you define wealthy?***
Aug 20, 2018, 11:35 AM
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Re: And then there’s this:
Aug 20, 2018, 11:30 AM
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it will be a fun discussion when the factory worker's in developing countries attain better health care services than minimum wage workers in this country
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China is sending Muslims to concentration camps
Aug 20, 2018, 11:36 AM
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and is arresting Christians. Its silencing minorities the way every communist/socialist country has done. why champion that?
oh, and you think health care is better in CHina???
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Re: if you want to watch countries implode
Aug 20, 2018, 12:49 PM
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The history of South Africa is far, far different from our history.
Apartheid has it's price and they seem to be paying it now.
At one point, 10% (white) of the population of South Africa controlled 100% of the country.
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Socialists are not gaining steam here.
Aug 20, 2018, 3:15 PM
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Reparations aren't going to happen.
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The word of Cata for the People of Cata
Aug 20, 2018, 3:24 PM
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Thanks Be to Cata
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Agree.
Aug 20, 2018, 5:00 PM
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The socialism thing is something, nothing more than something to energize the youth and minorities. Even Pelosi is talking socialism and the congressional dems are pretending to turn their backs on her.
They came out for O but not for hillary.
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