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Time lapse foul on Clyde Trapp....


Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:07 PM
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Proof there was foul. Not the reason we lost game...

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/nc-state/article227654974.html



Oh I dont care about the last one as much as the 4 or 5

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:13 PM
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phantom calls when we were up 16 that completely changed the way we had to play. Especially the 3 phantom calls on Thomas that took him out and like I said... really changed the way he/we had to play the whole game starting about 6 minutes in the 1st half.


Or the 2 walks that were not called.

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:15 PM
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Or the foul on I forgot who when the NC State guy drove, lost the ball out of bounds, and fell down on his own with about 45 seconds left.

It is not that one questionable call... it was the accumulated 15 that really makes me think Valentine had something on this game.


Roger Ayers has already been implicated in some sort of

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:21 PM
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gambling situation where his bad calls have affected the outcome...the ISU/OU game and the Nova/Creighton games happened in the same week


at best, it wasn't a shooting foul, so they should have

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:14 PM
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been inbounding the ball with 2.6 seconds left, not shooting two, but thanks for trying


Re: at best, it wasn't a shooting foul, so they should have


Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:18 PM
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It was by the letter of the law a foul but should’ve been a common foul. Still not the reason we lost


Exactly. I don’t know why people don’t get this.***

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 2:04 PM
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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:17 PM
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Sure there was contact there. The problem is that they weren’t calling that same foul on state all game.

Also there was WAY more contact on the no call against unc as well. At the very least 1 of those should have gone our way.


You can have contact, there is a ton of hand checking on the


Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:25 PM
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perimeter that they NEVER call, there has to be an advantage gained by the contact


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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:18 PM
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that is proof if you want to say that the foul happened before the shot which means the wolves would have taken the ball out on the side or under the basket. fact is that is not what the ref, who was out of position called. he blew his whistle when the wolf hit the floor. go look for that proof. fact of the matter is it was a terrible call that would never had been made on ncs or anyone wearing blue. we do enough on our own to screw up. we dont need any extra help.

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That looks like a foul in the picture.


Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:26 PM
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The video seems to be missing a lot of the action, but it does appear he got him on the arm in the photo and video.

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Clemson had a foul to give...

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 12:55 PM
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so State should have gotten the ball out-of-bounds.

The ball handler is clearly not in the act of shooting

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The shooting motion begins on a driving shot when the


Posted: Mar 14, 2019 1:04 PM
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offensive player gathers the ball, as opposed to a jump shooter. It also may be the case that, at the end of the game, it becomes a shooting foul regardless, within reason.

That is my understanding. If so, that picture clearly shows a shooting foul.

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 2:02 PM
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That’s true in the NBA, not college


Amir SImms says, "Not when I drove and scored.."...***

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 2:28 PM
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No, no that's continuation, in college you actually need to


Posted: Mar 14, 2019 3:18 PM
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be in the act of shooting...If UNC hadn't been in the bonus, Shelly would have drawn the blocking foul and we would have been inbounding the ball


Uhhh no...not in college ball.***

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 3:55 PM
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BS. That's not even when the foul wss called

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 1:18 PM
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The call was made AFTER the shot, in fact, it was made AFTER the ball bounced off the rim and towards a Clemson rebound. Watch hthe play in real-time. The ref DID NOT call that frame as the foul.

Secondly, the ref called a shooting foul. The (common) contact shown in that frame is well before the shot. There's no way possible the ref called a shooting foul on that contact. And if he did call it on that contact, then NC State should have been inbounding, not shooting.

Thirdly, if you look at a frame by frame of every drive to the bucket, most everyone of them are going to have that type of handcheck.

The shooting foul was called after the shot bounced off the rim. Watch the realtime replay. The NC State guy's "evidence" is immaterial. Denied.

We got hosed. Looks like with a clear purpose. Plain and simple.


I'm still livid about this, as well as the handful

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 1:20 PM
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of other awful calls that went against us. Just total crap.

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LOL what else do you expect from the Raleigh Rag?

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 1:33 PM
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That’s like expecting a fair argument from The State about the Coots. If they want to time lapse that then they need to go back and time lapse Mitchell at the end of the UNC game. There was even more contact in that. Sounds to me like they’re feeling a little guilty.


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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 1:36 PM
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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 1:38 PM
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He was NOT in the act of shooting. Look at his legs, that’s not a shooting base and if you look at his face he’s looking to pass.

There was a foul to give, should have been states ball out of bounds.


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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 1:44 PM
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Proof that the foul was before the shooting motion.....


So where was the foul?***


Posted: Mar 14, 2019 2:09 PM
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on the floor, if at all***


Posted: Mar 14, 2019 8:15 PM
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Tigers missed 40 shots. If miss only 39, we win.***


Posted: Mar 14, 2019 3:00 PM
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Puppies missed 33 shots. If they miss 34 we win.***

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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 5:20 PM
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Posted: Mar 14, 2019 3:32 PM
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Well if the foul occurred when the player was touched then it should have been a common foul and not a shooting foul bc he was not in the act of shooting when trapp hit his arm. They blew the whistle later after he went for the shot so yes he did foul but it wasn’t a shooting foul from this video and real game.


if i did a time lapse on the entire game there would be

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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 12:37 AM
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145 fouls
87 walks
45 palms
just cause you brush someone doesn't make it a foul
we did blow a huge lead and that's on the coach and the team

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