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These idiots who keep repeating flu deaths, car deaths etc...

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 7:42 PM
 

Shut up. Stop it... this is not a hoax or A fabricated story. It’s real.... this virus is serious.

Has the flu scared all the leaders of the world before? Has the flu or car accidents made the globe shut down?


Stop it.... you clowns are almost....... almost as dumb as the ones that defend brownell.


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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 7:48 PM
 

You skipped a few chapters.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:16 PM
 

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Overdone fear but good caution imho considering past world viruses & deaths..


Posted: Mar 16, 2020 7:49 PM
 

so how many will die in US, maybe 250?

Or a 1000?

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Re: Overdone fear but good caution imho considering other world viruses & deaths..


Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:12 PM
 

If Italy is any indication, we will probably hit 1000 deaths in a little over a week. US is doing a lot to curb it though, and since the biggest threat is the stress to our medical resources, slowing down the transmission might also significantly reduce the fatality rate. Time will tell, but I would predict we end up in the thousands before summer weather breaks it.


Re: Overdone fear but good caution imho considering other world viruses & deaths..

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:17 PM
 

So,you're predicting an outcome similar to a very mild flu season?


Re: Overdone fear but good caution imho considering other world viruses & deaths..

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:26 PM
 

That outcome is contingent on widespread behavior change. If the US does nothing, 200k - 1M is what the models predict. Ridicule the protocol all you want but it will save tens of thousands of lives.

The most annoying part is if all the changes work and the virus is slowed, some people will feel even stronger that the precautions were unnecessary. But statistics are hard for some to grasp.


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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:57 PM
 

Like he said. Statisics are hard for some to grasp.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 10:18 PM
 

A million deaths IF we all pretended nothing was happening and go about our lives as normal. The math isn’t even that difficult on that one, basic SRI model, with plenty of data points to get accurate transmission and mortality rates. Take the lowest bounds for the variables and the projection yields around 200k, take the highest bounds and the model projects around 1.5M deaths.

Fortunately, we are limiting interactions. The models show that the travel bans in China cut the transmission rate in half in that country, which will reduce the fatalities exponentially if we put into effect similar restrictions. Also slowing the spread gives our hospitals the chance to keep up with the spread which also will reduce the fatalities significantly.


Just a li’l bumpy bump...

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Posted: Mar 22, 2020 7:06 PM
 

to see how accurate your dire predictions were. So far (as of 19:00 hrs on 3/22/20) Italy isn’t any indicator of results in the United States.

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Posted: Mar 22, 2020 7:34 PM
 

I’m not going to start celebrating yet, but so many things have happened in the last six days. States have shut down gatherings, some cities have shut down all non-essential businesses, more test have begun to circulate. Hopefully it all continues to improve the trajectory for US citizens.


Over 400 deaths now so hitting 1000 in the next few days


Posted: Mar 22, 2020 9:37 PM
 

doesn't seem out of the question at all. I hope that doesn't happen but I believe we were at 250ish sometime yesterday and it's currently at 417. Tomorrow could be 600.

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Re: Overdone fear but good caution imho considering other world viruses & deaths..

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:12 PM
 

If Italy is any indication, we will probably hit 1000 deaths in a little over a week. US is doing a lot to curb it though, and since the biggest threat is the stress to our medical resources, slowing down the transmission might also significantly reduce the fatality rate. Time will tell, but I would predict we end up in the thousands before summer weather breaks it.


Re: Overdone fear but good caution imho considering other world viruses & deaths..

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 10:06 PM
 

A thousand by next week vs 2 or 3 thousand by summer is quite a spread.
Anything less than 5000 by May would indicate that the plan is working, or that it isn’t going to be as bad as projected.


Re: Overdone fear but good caution imho considering other world viruses & deaths..


Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:35 PM
 

Approx 100 million will actually have the virus in the US before it’s all done with and approx 300k-400k deaths...a vast majority of those will be over 60...all
Of this will happen in a 6-8 month time span...


Re: Overdone fear but good caution imho considering other world viruses & deaths..

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:38 PM
 

Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right. Here I am stuck in the middle with you.


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Re: Overdone fear but good caution imho considering other world viruses & deaths..


Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:49 PM
 

How do you know this?


Two days ago, 367 died in Italy. Adjusted for age and

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 11:19 PM
 

population, that would be about 2,000 in the U.S.. In one day. That's why it's important that we get ahead of it as much has possible.

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Already at 419 - and it's way over 500.***


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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 7:53 PM
 

Chicken little

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 7:54 PM
 

Not a hoax, but nothing something to totally lose one's chit over.

"Has the flu scared all the leaders of the world before? Has the flu or car accidents made the globe shut down?"

Right. Makes you wonder what's so different 8 months away from November 2020? Is it the virus, or something else?

Thank goodness the media has demonstrated over the past three years that they will neutrally report the news, straight up. No bias. They don't choose sides. We can totally trust them to be honest brokers. If they really were the Enemy of the People, that would be bad and we couldn't trust them.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 7:56 PM
 

yeah, it is all caused by the deep state to hurt trump in the upcoming election, , that is the craziest theory of all, ,

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 7:59 PM
 

well, the wonderful deep state civil servants at the CDC and NIH didn't really have us prepared now did they?

but no, my focus was on the media, not the glorious GS-11s that are part of the #Resistance. One thing you can say about the Trump presidency - it has stripped off the masks.

The media's goal is clear:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/03/13/coronavirus-outbreak-must-unite-everyone-who-wants-defeat-trump-column/5023411002/

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:23 PM
 

Wow....USA TODAY! They don't leave any doubt concerning their stance. Most biased article ever!

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Big deal, an editorial piece.....

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:14 PM
 

go watch fox , keep it fair and balanced, I am sure sean calamity is ranting about this same editorial...lol

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Re: Big deal, an editorial piece.....


Posted: Mar 16, 2020 10:01 PM
 

And Don Lemmon and Madow are? But I hear you.
Sadly, too many are politically slanted toward one side or another.
This IS more serious than the flu. I think what many people are saying is that flu deaths (especially the ones like SARS) also have a higher death rate, yet they caused no disruption to the economy or our daily lives. I think it’s difficult for many to believe that the fatality rate will be 3 to 10x higher.
Let’s hope not.
As far as economies go, I wonder what the world fatality rate is for workers (under age 65).


Please tell me my fellow Clemson grads aren’t

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Posted: Mar 22, 2020 7:24 PM
 

Brainwashed enough to believe in the “deep state”. Jesus christ.


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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:22 PM
 

If Obama was still in charge 60 million infected and thousands dead would be greeted by a collective yawn by the media. This isn't some kook theory, or my opinion, its exactly what happened 10 years ago. No way the media would be cheerleading us driving the economy off a cliff if one of their own was in power, especially heading into an election.


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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:28 PM
 


Not a hoax, but nothing something to totally lose one's chit over.

"Has the flu scared all the leaders of the world before? Has the flu or car accidents made the globe shut down?"

Right. Makes you wonder what's so different 8 months away from November 2020? Is it the virus, or something else?

Thank goodness the media has demonstrated over the past three years that they will neutrally report the news, straight up. No bias. They don't choose sides. We can totally trust them to be honest brokers. If they really were the Enemy of the People, that would be bad and we couldn't trust them.




Italy had 368 die in one day. Nasa reported that the mass graves being dug in Iran can be seen from the space station.

How about in this country, as the virus spreads let's start with your family. See how hoaxy that feels. These are real American's suffering. 25% have to be hospitalized and the mortality rate is 10x that of the flu.

So yeah, this is something to worry about. Spain closed it's border with Portugal today, I suppose they felt that would hurt Trump in November.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:47 PM
 

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It seems our hand washing isn’t doing the trick. In N-99 respirators we trust.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 10:36 PM
 

Well those are sad stats but clearly we don't know what the mortality rate is. Any thinking person appraising the facts knows that. I wish people would quit pointing to it as though we have a clue and it's hard evidence. Makes you look like a chicken little.


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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 11:47 AM
 

Exactly, Listened to a Dr. yesterday that works with the CDC on these issues. She stated that 80% of the people that get this virus will show no to little symptoms. Thus they will never be tested. If this is the case then the mortality rate drops by a significant amount. At my normal semi annual Dr.'s appointment she was saying that she's had multiple people come in with the symptoms of Fever, cough, and shortness of breath but because they cannot say they were around someone with the virus or that has traveled out of the country they were not to be tested. She stated that she treated them for the flu and all have since recovered. So what is the mortality rate. Probably way lower than anyone even thinks. Just like in China. The only ones that are being reported are the ones that have to be treated.

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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 4:17 AM
 

You sound stupid enough to be a liberal. Are you stupid enough, or are you still working on it? Why would you ask how hoaxy it would feel when I said I thought it wasn’t a hoax? Turn off the MSNBC and let the brain begin healing.

Even if your Savior Bernie or Biden gets elected, you will die some day of something. Maybe something that millions of other people die from every year.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 7:58 PM
 

Just a reminder Membersonly this is the football board. If you want to call people idiots try the Amphitheater but I suggest you don't post here unless you "lighten up Francis".


No worries.


Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:10 PM
 

Nature has a way of fixing its mistakes.

Google "Darwin Awards."


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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:18 PM
 

good example of how this hysteria is being fed:

every day you hear about more cases; 35 more cases in Georgia, 4 more cases in SC, etc. What you DO NOT hear is how many people are tested!

They are escalating the testing every day so more and more cases will be discovered and it will continue to grow. What we should hear is total number tested and how many test positive of that sampling.

In that light, things might not be so scary, but the press is not here to comfort anyone!

here is the data they won't talk about:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html

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the testing numbers are ridiculously low. Only at risk


Posted: Mar 22, 2020 7:16 PM
 

People, celebrities and politicians can get tested.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:34 PM
 

While the virus isn’t a hoax the response seems extreme, as if each new restriction is meant to outdo the last one. The response doesn’t seem proportionate to the outbreak. In 2009 the H1N1 virus killed 12,000 Americans and Obama and other leaders didn’t shut down the country.

The first cases appeared in the US in March and Obama didn’t declare an emergency until October. Worldwide the death total was estimated as high as 575,000.

The reason why so many people think it’s an overreaction is because we’ve never seen a response like this to something that occurs every few years.


but there were 60 million confirmed cases ...

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:05 PM
 

of H1N1.. with 12,000 deaths, that is a fatality rate of .0002. Although Sean Calamity and other republicans were on Fox hammering Obama about it, the fatality rate never rose to what we currently see in other parts of the world on corona. A rate of .0002 did not require much action by obama, imho, nor was it worthy of all the criticism he got from the repubs, but that is the nature of politics.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:31 PM
 

A valid critcism of Obama/Biden was that they didn't shut down air travel from infected contries/regions soon enough nor declare a national emergency soon enough. Both of which Trump did quickly. (and was critized for the china travel ban when he did do it).


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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 10:00 PM
 

We won’t know what the death rate is until it’s all over. H1N1 was expected to be higher and the number of those contracted are only estimated because many never got very ill. Covid 19 is similar in that only the very ill have been tested so far so naturally the death rate will be higher because they haven’t tested anyone with mild symptoms. As they test more and the “estimates” come out in the following years the death rate will go down. Maybe still higher than H1N1, but lower than .02-.03.


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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 8:36 PM
 

I do agree the virus is real! I do not agree that anyone who says hey look the other things kill people to are real. You sound like an idiot the way you expressed yourself!


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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:22 PM
 

They don't seem to understand that Coronavirus deaths are "in addition to" the other deaths. It's still death which is an additional tragedy. It's not a competition between which is worse, they're all bad.

It boggles the mind. It's pure Hannity and Ingraham.

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I’ll tell you what boggles the mind

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:58 PM
 

Biden.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:42 PM
 

I think the point to those comparisons are that we trade lives for economic prosperity every single day and have for many years and decades. For example, if we really were worried about car deaths we would have the safety features we have now and make all cars go no faster than 5mph. Next time you are on the interstate or see 25 mph speed limit in a school zone realize we are all horrible people.


How many healthy people under 80 will die?

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 9:58 PM
 

How many healthy people under 80 have died from COVID-19?
That is a statistic we need (DESERVE) to know.

We cannot live is a bubble for ever. Living in a bubble is NOT living.

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 10:05 PM
 

Ask the Italians.....


https://youtu.be/o_cImRzKXOs

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Posted: Mar 16, 2020 10:09 PM
 



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Nice video. BUT they never answered the question.***


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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 12:00 AM
 

Trump is in a no win situation. Make no mistake, the left wing will push this as far as they need to win in November. It will cost Trump the election and the deep state will have accomplished the greatest feat of their lives. And this is the folks your aligning yourself with.

Btw, how many unborn children did your party murder today. Pelosi still pushing for a billion dollars to kill even more? There will be a reckoning one day for this, make no mistake about that.


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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 4:32 AM
 

They think either of those two doddering Dem idiots would help our country?
Seriously??

I understand some people have been driven insane with hatred towards Trump and are willing to destroy America if it can get rid of him. But why would non-deranged voters think coronavirus means a different President would have avoided this?

Trump will always be attacked by the media for restricting travel too early (racist) or to late. No matter what he does or doesn’t do he will be constantly attacked from all sides. And no matter how worthless a Dem is, the press will love him.

https://www.twitter.com/realDailyWire/status/1239352915858513920

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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 5:01 AM
 

They are the biggest threat to this country, and it ain't even close.

In 10 years this country will be a 1 party system. When Biden gets elected, whoever takes over for that embicile half way through his term, will legalize all illegals and finally complete their immigration plan. I mean we all know it was never about compassion, it has always been about votes. This will turn 47 or 48 states blue and the country will basically become Europe west. The free handouts will wreck whatever is left of the economy, owning a firearm will become near impossible, and speaking your mind will become a criminal offense.


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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 6:44 AM
 

Very well said Outlaw....


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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 8:35 AM
 

Can we stop with this stupid crap and making everything political? The only people who wouldn't vote for Trump due to the virus are people who weren't going to be voting for him in the first place. Similar reactions and restrictions to this virus are being/have been done all over the world.

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Posted: Mar 17, 2020 9:18 AM
 

the poasted it in the football forum.

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Twice as contagious as the flu and 10 times as deadly

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Posted: Mar 22, 2020 7:19 PM
 

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-contagious-r-naught-average-patient-spread-2020-3


https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/coronavirus-pandemic-us-fatality-rate-steady-about-1-percent/#slide-1


1% may not sound like a lot but the regular flu is 1/10th of 1%

I hope if you're a Clemson grad (or fan) you can realize this makes it worse. If not, you're a stupid coot so you should head on over to FGF.


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Posted: Mar 22, 2020 9:29 PM
 

COVID-19 runs its course and the entire world population or at least everyone in The US is tested for antibodies.

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