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Trouble brewing in COLA again???
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Trouble brewing in COLA again???


Sep 11, 2012, 8:27 AM

This was in the local papers here in Orangeburg. I was told yeara ago by someone here, he did not take the SAT himself. Oh oh!
http://thetandd.com/news/local/alshon-quote-puts-cc-coach-on-suspension/article_74f915d8-fbc4-11e1-b84c-0019bb2963f4.html

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Imagine my surprise***


Sep 11, 2012, 8:36 AM



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Key Words: Athletics Director, Zam Frederick


Sep 11, 2012, 8:37 AM

had no comment when asked about the situation, which Dr. Wilson called a “personnel matter” that he was not at liberty to discuss.

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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


Zam Frederick was the problem!


Sep 11, 2012, 8:39 AM

He would bail kids out of jail on Thursday night to have them playing ball on Friday night.

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The kid took an online, 5 hour physics course and made an


Sep 11, 2012, 8:38 AM

"A" to qulaify. Kind of like the UNC player that was placed in remedial English his first fall semester, yet made a B+ on a 400 level African American course that had ZERO supervision and he had to write a 15 page term paper for his only grade. Yet, the NCAA says there were no irregularities.

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Dang, the OP wrote "qulaify"................***


Sep 11, 2012, 8:39 AM



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unc's Marvin Austin actually took the 400 level Af-Am course


Sep 11, 2012, 9:58 AM [ in reply to The kid took an online, 5 hour physics course and made an ]

BEFORE he took remedial English.

Fortunately, that course wasn't JUST designed for athletes to stay eligible!!...lol

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That is what I meant. Remedial English, first fall semester,


Sep 11, 2012, 1:01 PM

400 level unsupervised term paper, first session of first summer school attended.But, not to worry coots, I am sure you are squeaky clean.

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I'll go ahead and speak on behalf of


Sep 11, 2012, 8:41 AM

Neil Lourie, the daddy's boy lawyer.

"Wrong place, wrong time. We've all learned from this. Boys will be boys. Someone in the upstate is lying".

Counselor.....come out come out wherever you are

Neiley I know you're reading this...if not....Joel Shaw is.....come on and defend it.

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Sniff, Sniff


Sep 11, 2012, 9:03 AM

I smell three vacated wins..

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I've been wrong two times, but this isn't one of them.


If he was ruled ineligible it would be more than three games


Sep 11, 2012, 9:05 AM

A lot more. Don't know why it would just be three vacated wins.

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Re: If he was ruled ineligible it would be more than three games


Sep 11, 2012, 9:40 AM

I think he is speaking specifically about the 3 consecutive over the Tigers.

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Ah, I see.***


Sep 11, 2012, 9:40 AM



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If Jeffries is ruled ineligible, do they have to


Sep 11, 2012, 9:56 AM [ in reply to Re: If he was ruled ineligible it would be more than three games ]

give those 5th place rings back??

This could be a tragedy of monumental consequences!!...lol!!!

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Re: I'll go ahead and speak on behalf of


Sep 11, 2012, 1:56 PM [ in reply to I'll go ahead and speak on behalf of ]

nice quote and reference to movie lol

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Don't see anything that USC would have done wrong there.***


Sep 11, 2012, 8:44 AM



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Not intentionally, at least.


Sep 11, 2012, 8:49 AM

They could have unknowingly been playing an ineligible player, however.

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Re: Don't see anything that USC would have done wrong there.***


Sep 11, 2012, 8:50 AM [ in reply to Don't see anything that USC would have done wrong there.*** ]

No Southern Cal has their own problems. In regards to SCar its not that they did anything wrong but Jeffery would not be eligible to play in the NCAA if this is true.

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Zam Fredrick is AD at Calhoun county and coot grad***


Sep 11, 2012, 9:12 AM



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Re: Don't see anything that USC would have done wrong there.***


Sep 11, 2012, 12:56 PM [ in reply to Re: Don't see anything that USC would have done wrong there.*** ]

Are they gonna have to give their 5th place rings back?

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Wayne Buckingham's high school fixed his grades


Sep 11, 2012, 8:53 AM [ in reply to Don't see anything that USC would have done wrong there.*** ]

and it got Clemson in trouble. Looks like the same sort of thing.

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Same thing happened this year at Auburn


Sep 11, 2012, 9:05 AM

with that freshman RB

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nm


Sep 11, 2012, 9:46 AM [ in reply to Wayne Buckingham's high school fixed his grades ]

nm


Message was edited by: tigrjm76®


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Ultimately $CU is responsible.....


Sep 11, 2012, 8:57 AM [ in reply to Don't see anything that USC would have done wrong there.*** ]

for verifying the accuracy and legitimacy of the high school transcripts of its stuident-athletes. If problems surface after the fact, it is the university that is held accountable.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


I see. I do wonder...


Sep 11, 2012, 9:00 AM

What the process would be for "verifying" that. What can USC (or any other college) do?

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Most schools have something similar to....


Sep 11, 2012, 9:04 AM

Clemson's AARC (Academic Advisory Review Committee) who has the responsibility of checking behind the NCAA Clearing House.

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Interesting. Seems like it would be difficult to police.***


Sep 11, 2012, 9:04 AM



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I don't think it would be difficult at all....


Sep 11, 2012, 9:16 AM

The NCAA and most schools have established minimum standards/requirements for admission/eligibilty.

If there is a questionable course (on-line or otherwise)the legitimacy of which cannot be verified, you simply don't accept it.

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I guess. Maybe I'm picturing it wrong.


Sep 11, 2012, 9:19 AM

I'm picturing someone looking at a transcript that says someone got a "C" in English in the sophomore year. How do you find out if they actually earned a "C"? Ask the teacher? They're the ones who gave them the C. Review all of the student's tests and quizzes for that class? Seems tedious.

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Policing the integrity of teachers and/or counselors....


Sep 11, 2012, 9:29 AM

would be incredibly difficult if not impossible. I was referring more to the legitimacy of the actual courses. If the school is offering the course and it is a Honors or AP level course, you almost have to assume that it's legitimate.




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From what I read in the article...


Sep 11, 2012, 9:38 AM

The coach basically said it was teachers not using integrity in illegitimately passing the student.

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Seems like it would be difficult to police.***


Sep 11, 2012, 9:56 AM [ in reply to Interesting. Seems like it would be difficult to police.*** ]

I thought SCar had a really tight relationship with the police....

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it's a very difficult task to verify transcripts


Sep 11, 2012, 9:22 AM [ in reply to I see. I do wonder... ]

here is the Buckingham case and how it affected Clemson. It's long, but tells you how a scandal can trickle down from high school to college.

http://www.mikemason.net/work/magazines.php?cat=news&id=5

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The BS on-line course he took was first sign. that has been


Sep 11, 2012, 9:16 AM [ in reply to Ultimately $CU is responsible..... ]

talked about and known since the summer before he enrolled at sc.

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So the coach is in trouble for speaking the truth?


Sep 11, 2012, 8:45 AM

LOL - can barely escape Calhoun County (which is probably one of the worst school systems in SC) but can make it through 3 years at USuC? Just another Alvin Greene. Every time I read this stuff I want a refund of the portion of my taxes going to that diploma mill.

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770 ? one of you youger people fill ,e in.


Sep 11, 2012, 8:55 AM

Will this get you into college ? Or just an SEC football school ?

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Do you still get 200 pts for writing your name on the test?***


Sep 11, 2012, 8:59 AM



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used to be 400 just for name***


Sep 11, 2012, 9:13 AM



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Clemson's freshman class this year


Sep 11, 2012, 9:09 AM [ in reply to 770 ? one of you youger people fill ,e in. ]

Had an average SAT of 1245. S. Car's had an average of 1194. You tell me.

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HS math teacher here.


Sep 11, 2012, 10:06 AM [ in reply to 770 ? one of you youger people fill ,e in. ]

SAT scores are adjusted periodically so that 500 per section (math, verbal, and now writing) is the average, as in 50% of students make above and below 500. The standard deviation of scores is 100 points. Since practically 100% of data falls within 3 standard deviations from the mean, the SAT folks decided that 200 - 800 would be the max and min scores for a section.

A score of 770 would fall more than 2 standard deviations from the mean. This would mean that a 770 score would be in approximately the 1% range of all scores. (Someone correct me if that is wrong.)

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I'm curious.......if the staff at your high school were


Sep 11, 2012, 10:14 AM

called into a meeting and told not to discuss a previous student or his academics while at the school or face possible suspension, would that not send up a red flag to the entire workforce there????

I understand policy about not discussing a students academics, but since a college scholarship athlete's grades would have been accessible to lots of other entities, it would make me wonder why suddenly that topic is verboten.

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I failed probability and statistics twice in college... I'm


Sep 11, 2012, 2:02 PM [ in reply to HS math teacher here. ]

going to have to take your word on this one

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Pass the popcorn please.


Sep 11, 2012, 9:02 AM

This is going to be a fun one to watch!

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770 to get in USC?


Sep 11, 2012, 9:14 AM

basically all you have to do is play pick C on every question to get a 770. did he take college prep classes in HS? USuC will not accept a regular student if they have any tech prep High school classes on their transcript. or is that rule different for athletes as well.

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A lot of schools have canged the names of classes


Sep 11, 2012, 9:50 AM

to make themselves look better. What was called basic in the 70's was called CP time my daughter got to HS. It was explained to me that because a student can get into the local tech school , it's college prep. If they're in AP or Honors cl;##### they better be making A's & B's if they're going to survive in a real college nowadays.

I just know my daughter was always trained on hitting the 1400 line on the SAT, so this 770 score looks low to me.

H3ll the local hospital and ROTC want a C average and 950 - 1000 on the SAT to be sponsored in college.770 just seems low, I thought I'd ask those board members not as far removed from HS as I.

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usuck made up for any academic irregularities in Alshon's


Sep 11, 2012, 9:47 AM

case.............by hiring his father. I've wondered, since Alshon's little brother isn't starting, is Mr. Jeffries still working for the usuck athletic department??? Bet he gets really good Christmas bonuses!!!

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3 Years ,there go the old ball sac's all time winning record


Sep 11, 2012, 9:54 AM

at USuC. I know they had nothing to do with this. If true they'd still have all their wins vacated during their all time best period in their history. It's comical.

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I doubt you'll see anyone from the high school


Sep 11, 2012, 9:58 AM

admit fault. The teachers were pulled into a meeting and ordered to be quiet or be fired.
High level intimidation at its finest.

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