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File away in the 'yeah, no kidding' folder
Jul 6, 2019, 7:58 PM
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The British Ambassador to the U.S., in leaked briefs and memos, sent back to the Prime Minister over 2 years, relays his evaluation of Trump and his Administration. (Yeah, we know.)
"-Describes bitter conflicts within Trump's White House – verified by his own sources – as 'knife fights';
-Warns that Trump could have been indebted to 'dodgy Russians';
-Claims the President's economic policies could wreck the world trade system;
-Says the scandal-hit Presidency could 'crash and burn' and that 'we could be at the beginning of a downward spiral... that leads to disgrace and downfall';
-Voices fears that Trump could still attack Iran.
Britain's Ambassador to Washington has described Donald Trump as 'inept', 'insecure' and 'incompetent' in a series of explosive memos to Downing Street."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7220335/Britains-man-says-Trump-inept-Cables-ambassador-say-dysfunctional.html
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Re: File away in the 'yeah, no kidding' folder
Jul 6, 2019, 8:06 PM
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Sounds about right. Dems will probably lose to him again anyway though.
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Re: File away in the 'yeah, no kidding' folder
Jul 6, 2019, 8:50 PM
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Sounds about right. Dems will probably lose to him again anyway though.
Yep, if they don't get their crap together. Biden seems reasonable but he's more of the same, uninspiring. The rest...they need to stop pandering to the minorities an move to the middle or they are toast.
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Heck, AOC wouldnt even vote to help the illegals***
Jul 6, 2019, 9:18 PM
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Being that British intelligence agencies spied on Trump...
Jul 6, 2019, 10:41 PM
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during the campaign and his administration is investigating them perhaps bad blood between GB and Trump was predictable and Trump's bad attitude toward the limeys is more than justified.
If you will recall Trump held information about the spying for months at the request of the Brits but America deserves to know that GB was messing with America's 2016 presidential election. If they had been spying on Hillary's campaign I suspect you guys would feel the same way.
Furthermore, you can look for future outrage over Trump's positions on everything from Australia since they played a role in the spying on Trump's campaign too.
As far as either or any nation being against Trump economic policies he promised to put America first. If we have to kick China, GB, Australia and every other nation on the globe down our economic priorities list so that we can prefer America to any or all of them consider this.
That's how they all nations operate. They put their own citizens' well being first. Trump is only doing what he was elected to do and he's doing right by America. The customer is always right and we are the customer so I'm with Trump, screw them all.
I hope he lets them know that if he catches them messing in another election he's going to react.
You should probably note the following. All this effing with our election happened under Obama and Biden. Anyone who doesn't appreciate Trump standing up for America just isn't American.
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Re: Being that British intelligence agencies spied on Trump...
Jul 6, 2019, 10:46 PM
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But...but...but....
Poor Felix is hogwashed, I mean brainwashed, by all the George Soros “mass media” hysteria.
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No he isn't and neither is Carsbad.
Jul 6, 2019, 10:58 PM
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They haven't recuperated completely from Trump being elected but neither of them are buying what the MSM is selling anymore. Both have pride and that pride is standing between them and bailing out on the dem party right now but if the left wing continues to dominate the conversation among dems both will exit all this bullchit talk and head back toward the middle of the road where their hearts are.
They talk a lot of chit but the truth is most of their venom is due to knowing Trump is right about the economy, jobs concerns, border control, probably about government take over of health insurance and a few other key issues.
If either of them voted for one of the left wing candidates they would pull the lever believing that the candidate lied and probably can't or won't keep promises about those most important issues.
They know reparations will never pass congress.
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I know you hate liberal publications but in this case...
Jul 7, 2019, 10:13 AM
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"Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told.
GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.
Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said..."
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russia
Remember Steele?
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Re: I know you hate liberal publications but in this case...
Jul 7, 2019, 11:50 AM
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"Britain’s spy agencies played a crucial role in alerting their counterparts in Washington to contacts between members of Donald Trump’s campaign team and Russian intelligence operatives, the Guardian has been told. GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added. Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said..." https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/apr/13/british-spies-first-to-spot-trump-team-links-russiaRemember Steele?
It is astonishing how you guys just brush off the truth and create alternative narratives. Of course the British would alert us, they are our allies. They are still concerned about Trump and Kushner being bailed out by "dodgy' Russian businessmen.
But ignore the content of the article and ignore the British govt. assessment of Trump.
Or better yet, somebody needs to say, "but Obama, or but Hillary" in order to divert attention from Trump.
Oh wait, my bad...somebody already brought up AOC.
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Why did the Brits and Australia ask Trump to sit on the...
Jul 7, 2019, 3:24 PM
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intelligence? It's clear they pointed to Papadopoulos yet he, along with every other American was innocent of any conspiracy according to Mueller's report.
A reasonable person would say they lied on the man and made a mountain out of a mole hill. America sat on the edge of it's seat for over two years because of their 'friendly revelations.' I believe you will find out that Brennen asked them to spy on an American citizen to generate a source to justify our intelligence agencies' illegal spying on Trump's campaign and anyone/everyone on Carter Page's list of calls over the past two years.
You know the Steele dossier was the primary reason the FISA granted the original warrant on Page and the FBI continued to use that trash, concocted, unverified pos garbage fake report to spy on one of our own.
Where is the indictment on Page?
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Wow.
Jul 7, 2019, 1:27 PM
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It takes a pretty cultist viewpoint to read that a number of our allies alerted us to suspicious interactions between Russia and Trump and think they were the ones who were in the wrong.
Again, wow.
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All candidates and especially those nominated are in...
Jul 7, 2019, 3:07 PM
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communications with foreign dignitaries. You'll see the truth of the matter when Barr reveals the proof that Brennen had the Brits spying on people. Yet the Mueller investigated found no one assist Russia's efforts to dally in our election.
The entire story was concocted with no justification. Proof? Who did Mueller find wrapped up in a conspiracy with Russia? "GB's 'suspicious activities,' turned out to be a dead end.
I told you Trump campaign didn't conspire with Russia to fix the election and most folks here ignored the truth. Now you continue to ignore it.
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Legend [15492]
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Re: All candidates and especially those nominated are in...
Jul 7, 2019, 4:19 PM
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communications with foreign dignitaries. You'll see the truth of the matter when Barr reveals the proof that Brennen had the Brits spying on people. Yet the Mueller investigated found no one assist Russia's efforts to dally in our election.
The entire story was concocted with no justification. Proof? Who did Mueller find wrapped up in a conspiracy with Russia? "GB's 'suspicious activities,' turned out to be a dead end.
I told you Trump campaign didn't conspire with Russia to fix the election and most folks here ignored the truth. Now you continue to ignore it.
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Does it bother you in the least that the Trump Campaign 'happily accepted Russian interference'?
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Oculus Spirit [93609]
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Trump campaign accepted nothing from Russia.
Jul 7, 2019, 6:15 PM
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If you go on Mueller's report. You claim Putin wanted Trump in office and have no problem with Brits working for Hillary to spy on Trump's campaign. I say Putin was behind the Steele dossier since the origin was Russian. I know that doesn't bother you because the ends justifies the means to democrats.
Even the often wrong but always consistent NYTs reported on it.
"Another possibility — one that Mr. Steele has not ruled out — could be Russian disinformation. That would mean that in addition to carrying out an effective attack on the Clinton campaign, Russian spymasters hedged their bets and placed a few land mines under Mr. Trump’s presidency as well..."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/19/us/politics/steele-dossier-mueller-report.html
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Legend [18003]
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See, it's not enough that the Mueller report "cleared" trump
Jul 7, 2019, 4:19 PM
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(which it didn't, it simply said there wasn't enough to criminally charge) but it has to be a conspiracy created to bring down Trump. That's cultist speech. Mueller found plenty of evidence that backs up "suspicious activities" but he couldn't find direct coordination between the two. You conflate the two.
From the Mueller report:
“[a] statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts.”
"cannot rule out the possibility that the unavailable information (access to certain witnesses/information) would shed additional light on (or cast in a new light) the events described in the report.”
“investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.”
That last one is important. It points to while Trump maybe didn't directly coordinate with Russia, he welcomed their interference (and still does). Yet to you cultists, the problem isn't with Trump it's with our allies and our own intelligence agencies pointing it out.
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Oculus Spirit [93609]
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You're of the mind that 'innocent until proven guilty,'
Jul 7, 2019, 6:17 PM
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is not applicable to any of your political opponents?
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Legend [18003]
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In a trial, absolutely.
Jul 7, 2019, 6:40 PM
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Since Mueller said in his report he couldn't consider that aspect of a sitting President it doesn't much apply. What does apply is all the information Mueller laid out about Trump/Russia/Obstruction and that information doesn't need to reach the level of criminality for me and many others to be alarmed and upset (even if much of it actually does reach levels of criminality).
Again, it's ironic you use the "innocent until proven guilty" when you are so quick to believe the conspiracy theories vomited out by the likes of Fox, OANN, Solomon, S.Carter, etc.
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Oculus Spirit [93609]
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Why?
Jul 7, 2019, 11:23 PM
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John Solomon and Sara Carter have been accurate throughout the entire witchhunt. Folks said they were conspiracy nuts then and it turned out they were right about the FISA abuse and the entire investigation throughout the last two and a half years.
You're refusing to pull your head out of the sand and judge this just as you have done for the last 2 1/2 years. This is as clear as the nose on your face. FISA abuse using an unverified document to get a warrant on Carter Page and thereby getting their nose under the blanket enabling them to sniff around the Trump campaign. Spies working against private American citizens.
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Re: You're of the mind that 'innocent until proven guilty,'
Jul 8, 2019, 8:59 AM
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is not applicable to any of your political opponents?
"Lock her up!, Lock her up!, Lock her up!"
Does it bother you that Trump himself called to lock up Hillary.
You know, innocent until proven guilty?
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