Yeah but you libs say he is guilty, enough facts to impeach

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Re: Yeah but you libs say he is guilty, enough facts to impeach

Oct 16, 2019, 7:43 PM

Assuredly not a lib - just a member of the peanut gallery heckling both sides at the moment - but I would think this one's obvious.

Impeachment not a court of law.

If this was a court of law, this would be pretty open-and-shut. The Very Stable Genius already confessed. Twice. Once with that transcript summary he inexplicably thought would clear him, and once out of his own mouth...and then he goes and doubles down and tells China to investigate Biden as well just for good measure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Q67tAUiMg

That's, uhm, kind of hard to explain away. He'd be on his way to the Cross-Bar Hilton after about thirty seconds of deliberation in any other trial, were Trump not the president.

So it's just as well it's not a court of law. Instead it's going to the House, and then to the Senate. Where it will be debated and decided upon. By politicians. After much bickering, posturing, mugging for the camera, and self-promotion by all involved. Where it will undoubtedly then be found that all of the Democrats proclaim him guilty, and all of the Republicans (minus maybe Mitt Romney and maybe Susan Collins) will proclaim him innocent. Votes will be counted, and Trump will almost without question be impeached in the House but not convicted in the Senate.

So...again. This is not a criminal trial, with hard procedures and rules that are set in stone. It's politics...and even where the law is pretty clear, Trump doesn't care jack what the law is anyhow; isn't that what his supporters like about him? Like - he's claiming non-existent "Executive Privilege" over every scrap of paper and witness in the White House and now the State Department, giving the House a double-bird and a great big Eff You, and daring them to do something about it.

Trump knows full well the Dems don't the votes in the GOP-controlled Senate no matter how flagrantly he flouts the law.

Of course, stuff can happen, too. The economy could tank. Trump could step in it even deeper - which he seems to be trying to do every day, with this whole Syria thing. So peeving off key Republicans is maybe not the wisest course of action for Trump, right now. Because if things start going, as the English say, all pear-shaped (I still have no idea what that saying really means), then lifeboat politics could ensue and the GOP Senators might decide that an obedient Pence toting the party line is much preferable to an erratic Trump who really isn't anything resembling an actual Republican anyhow in terms of ideology.

So the Dems are going to drag things out a bit and see if something favorable to them develops. Why not? If they take it to a straight vote now we all know exactly how it goes. And because it's politics and not an actual courtroom, it'll take exactly as long as the leadership in each chamber decides it's gonna take.

I doubt the Dems successfully get him, not with McConnell waiting to run interference in the Senate. It'd take something pretty durn substantial to tip the Senate vote against him and I don't think things are nearly there yet.

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Seldom is speech a violation of the law.

The left is under some delusion that a POTUS trying to further an ongoing investigation which involves a foreign country is somehow a criminal act. Joe wasn't a candidate when the investigation into Ukraine's participation of the Russian hoax began. It appears to have started when Barr was deposed by Congress about the Mueller report. He said he was going to look into the origins of the Russian/Trump collusion hoax.

Thanks for the video, have you seen the one where Biden boast of shutting down the investigation into the Ukrainian company which was sending his son $50-180K each month. Are you saying that shouldn't be investigated? I thought you were the peanut gallery heckling both sides? I don't recall you making a comment on that one.

This is not a criminal trial, it's not a trial at all. It's an investigation which started with a 'whistleblower,' who stopped by Adam Schiff's office to pick one up to blow.

I agree with one thing you posted, 'It's politics.' That happens to be the exact thing the Founding Fathers tried to prevent from ever happening, a sitting president being removed over political differences.

That saved Clinton and rightly so. Just as planned by the Founders this will save Trump too. How anyone can say that like it's a bad thing is against all reason. Like anything well designed the constitution is doing exactly what it was designed and written to do.

Re: Yeah but you libs say he is guilty, enough facts to impeach

Re: Yeah but you libs say he is guilty, enough facts to impeach

Re: Yeah but you libs say he is guilty, enough facts to impeach

Re: Yeah but you libs say he is guilty, enough facts to impeach

Re: Yeah but you libs say he is guilty, enough facts to impeach

Insult?

Whether or not he broke the law is debatable.

Re: Whether or not he broke the law is debatable.

that 3rd rate politician needs to get off her butt

empeach foteefive empeach foteefive!***

Don’t forget.

Re: Yeah but you libs say he is guilty, enough facts to impeach

Re: Yeah but you libs say he is guilty, enough facts to impeach

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