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Willie Simmons is doing awesome as HC
Dec 25, 2015, 8:11 PM
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9-2 in his first year as Head Coach at Prairie View A&M and led the nation I'm ppg on offense.
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Re: Willie Simmons is doing awesome as HC
Dec 25, 2015, 8:21 PM
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Good for him. He was a talented young man. Hope good things for him.
Go tigers!!
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Re: Willie Simmons is doing awesome as HC
Dec 25, 2015, 8:36 PM
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He would make a good OC at a power 5 school. His future is very bright. I hope gets the opportunity.
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Wow! Didn't Prarie view have about a 122 game losing
Dec 25, 2015, 8:45 PM
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streak at one time?
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Yep***
Dec 25, 2015, 9:19 PM
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One of the most under-appreciated players of all time***
Dec 25, 2015, 9:49 PM
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Willie lost out to a more talented Charlie Whitehurst.
Dec 25, 2015, 10:48 PM
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Glad he is doing well in his profession.
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He didn't pan out here
Dec 26, 2015, 7:58 AM
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he was a back up to Woody and then when he got the starting job he got beat out by Whitehurst.
He graduated in 3 years and went on to play at the Citadel for a year. He was/is very likable and has does well. Sometimes the next great QB's just do not pan out.
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He was scapegoated, not beat out.***
Dec 26, 2015, 1:25 PM
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There are porbably some that think Whitehurst
Dec 26, 2015, 3:01 PM
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was a better QB. Who knows maybe if Willie didn't get scapegoated he would still be playing in the NFL, right?
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Not saying Simmons would have went onto the NFL..
Dec 26, 2015, 3:07 PM
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just stating he was a victim of Bowdens lack of an offense philosophy. This effected Whitehurst in his junior season. Main point is with Simmons it had more to do with the circumstances he was put in, rather than lack of ability.
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exactly, while Whitehurst was an all time great for us, Bowden scapegoated Simmons...
Dec 26, 2015, 3:03 PM
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For the losses in 2002. Whitehurst and Simmons were equal in arm strength. What people forget about the season was how weak the teams Whitehurst started against at the end of the season. And people forget how noncommittal Bowden was in the spring in naming a starter. Bowden made it look like Simmons still had a chance to win the job back in the spring. Bowden scapegoated Simmons the way he scapegoated Cullen Harper in the 2008 season. Simmons was more of a victim of circumstance than lacking ability. Simmons suffered from Bowdens lack of offensive philosophy, this also effected Whitehurst in his junior season.
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I agree with this.
Dec 26, 2015, 4:27 PM
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Simmons was not as bad as some here made him out to be, and Whitehurst was not as great as some made him out to be. Looks like it ended up well for both in the long run, however.
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You could also say he was a victim of circumstances...
Dec 26, 2015, 2:50 PM
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The play calling and oline was terrible in 2002, and the season went south. First position to get a change when the season goes south is usually QB. Whitehurst got the last three starts of the season and did good, although we ended the season against some weak teams he played good enough to solidify his status as incoming starter for the 2003 season,and Simmons decide to transfer when Bowden was being noncommittal in stating who the starter was during the spring.
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Most great coaches were not the best players - they had to
Dec 26, 2015, 9:12 AM
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work harder to become better, while more physically talented players may just float through without have to learn step-by-step techniques...
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Re: Willie Simmons is doing awesome as HC
Dec 25, 2015, 10:57 PM
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Very happy for Willie Simmons.....he is a good guy and hope he climbs up the coaching ladder very fast.....Go Tigers!!!!
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What ended up happening to him
Dec 26, 2015, 7:30 AM
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After Clemson? Did he transfer anywhere bc of Charlie eventually starting over him or did he finish and get his degree at Clemson? I can't remember
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He transferred to either Charleston Southern or Citadel and
Dec 26, 2015, 9:14 AM
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played as a graduate student, if I remember correctely just as Willie Korn, who is qb coach at Chas. Sou. now!@
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Re: He transferred to either Charleston Southern or Citadel and
Dec 26, 2015, 9:21 AM
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He lost his his job to CW because of fumbles, not talent.
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I remember freshmanCharlie subbing against UNC and throwing
Dec 26, 2015, 9:34 AM
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much better passes and several td's which Willie never did. He won the starting job that game! Charlie had a much stronger arm which got him ticket to long career in NFL. Willie was very smart, and did a reasonably good job, without that arm!
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Re: What ended up happening to him
Dec 26, 2015, 3:34 PM
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Willie Simmons went to Middle Tennessee State as offensive coach with Rick Stockstill. He coached there for quite a while but had some personal problems and had to resign. So good to see him back coaching again. He came in to Clemson with all AP courses in his senior year of HS and graduated in 3 years.
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