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Why doesn't Brownell ever recruit shooters?

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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 8:59 PM
 

When the 3 pt shot is so important to his offense?

I've heard cause they won't come here.

We'll, looking at the NCAA stats, there are a buttload on this list that would come here. He should always have 2 sharp shooters but he always goes for d players

https://www.ncaa.com/stats/basketball-men/d1/current/individual/143


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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 9:05 PM
 

I agree, but I think Hemenway, Dawes, Hunter, and Honor, should do better next year. Maybe Tyson and Baehre cant hit some 3's next year too. I think we will be much improved next season.

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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 9:10 PM
 

We have been the next season better champs for 10 yrs. Straight.

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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 9:33 PM
 

The best.

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Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 1:21 PM
 

That's funny Junk Yard, but we did win this championship two years ago and may, just may, win it this year (say, by winning the NIT).


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Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 10:48 PM
 

When the F did we win the NIT


Simms coming back and is good 3 pt. shooter, led


Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 7:44 PM
 

the Tigers, until Hemenway came back from injury.

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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 9:11 PM
 

I want that Hoover kid from Wofford. Too had he is a senior.


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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 9:25 PM
 

Brad has a unique approach to recruiting. He's realized it's much simpler to recruit guys who cant shoot. Honestly, he's kind of a trailblazer in his offensive approach as in it doesn't center around scoring


Recruiting has been an obvious weakness under Brownell.

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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 9:31 PM
 

Particularly outstanding scorers. We have only had two 1st team All-Conference players in 9 years under Brownell. That's a big part of the reason we are consitently mediocre. And before somebody points out the fact that we've never, under any coach (except Tates Locke) attracted top level talent, I say don't use our sorry past as some kind of acceptable standard. And as has been pointed out, even a lot of smaller schools we play have players that can burn up the net.

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And zero first round picks under Brad

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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 10:20 PM
 

only 2 guys drafted. First round talent recruited by Clemson coaches: Tates had Tree with Wise an ABA first rounder, Foster had Nance, Horace and Harvey with Campbell, Billy Williams, Fred Gilliam, Murray Jarman and Vinnie Hamilton also drafted, Cliff had Elden, Davis and Wright with Whitney and Devin Gray also drafted, Barnes had two drafted, Buck and Jamison in 4 years, Shyatt had Will Solomon as a first rounder and Sharrod Ford drafted, OP had Trevor as a first rounder.

Brad? KJ, JB both 2nd rounders. Grantham a free agent.

And Brad has had the longest tenure


Re: And zero first round picks under Brad

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Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 8:38 AM
 

Devin Gray was not drafted.

Harold Jamison was not drafted.

Will Solomon was a second round pick...not a first.

Sharrod Ford was not drafted.


You are correct


Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 8:57 AM
 

They played in the NBA, but the draft was just 2 rounds by then


Re: And zero first round picks under Brad


Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 10:53 PM
 

You have a lot wrong with your memory. Grants played for Ellis along with have if you give credit to foster.


Foster signed them***


Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 11:04 PM
 




Re: Why doesn't Brownell ever recruit shooters?

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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 9:38 PM
 

Think his philosophy is try to win the game 10 - 9 but somehow we typically manage to lose it 11 - 10 ......because the other team always has at least one player that can shoot better than our guys.......no matter how bad the guys on the other team actually are......Go Tigers!!!!


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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 9:43 PM
 

^^Nailed it^^


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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 9:45 PM
 

https://247sports.com/player/p-j-hall-46050786/

"Capable with the ball as a shooter"

Recruited the #1 player in SC and both recruits for 2020 are 4 stars. The man was in THE TOP FREAKING 3 for Zion Williamson, only for coach K and Duke's checkbook to rip him away.

Even Zion's dad said he was obsessed with Clemson.

We had two straight 20 win seasons, beat UNC in chapel hill this year, have a sweet 16 appearance. OP never won one tournament game.

Only 1 coach in Clemson history has gotten it done in Chapel Hill, he will be the coach in 2021.

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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 10:27 PM
 

UNC is below .500 it was a great thing no doubt but how many of those games we lost were to a UNC team below .500? We were in the top 3 for Zion because he was in our back yard. Hopefully Hall will be as good as advertised. TB came in 2nd in the Atlantic the 2 years before he was fired btw. Sometimes being okay isn't good enough.


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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 10:27 PM
 

You mean like Gabe Devoe?...

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Gabe was a good shooter for 2 months out of 4 years

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Posted: Feb 9, 2020, 10:29 PM
 

it was a heck of a two months though


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Posted: Feb 11, 2020, 10:25 AM
 

he was a serious scorer in HS

http://ballislife.com/clemson-commit-gabe-devoe-makes-11-3-pointers-scores-52-points/


Plus the NC State game his freshman year when he scored


Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 7:27 PM
 

like 19 points or something (in a close loss) in a furious 2nd half rally - couldn't miss from 3 - then nada til senior year.

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Posted: Feb 10, 2020, 5:26 PM
 

sometimes, the media guide is your friend. I took a look thru and looked at the shooting % of some of the guys who IMO would be in the discussion of "great shooters" at CU. a couple disclaimers. first, the distance has changed a couple times, so it isn't always apples to apples. a few guys played when there was no 3 point shot. a couple on this list (Abraham, fred gilliam, anthony jenkins) were kind of "stretch forwards", so their % might be skewed a little by the fact that they also played inside some. a couple (ed scott, will solomon, zatezalo) played on teams where they had to shoot a lot, so maybe they had to take some bad shots skewing their % down. you make your own conclusions on how many great shooters we've had.
first number is over all %, 2nd # is 3 pt %

colon abraham 53.6 n/a
marc campbell 48.2 50.7
gabe devoe 39.6 34.6
fred gilliam 48.1 43.5
van gregg 41.2 n/a
anthony jenkins 48.8 45.7
boogie mc 41.5 37.2
TO 39.5 37.8
KC Rivers 43.9 38.5
shawan robinson 39.8 37.7
ed scott 38.1 31.3
will solomon 39.2 36.6
D Stitt 42.9 33.1
t. Stockman 33.3 n/a
T suit 40.4 n/a
chris whitney 42.7 41.3
skip wise 48.9 n/a
andre young 40.4 37.5
b zatezalo 41 n/a

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Posted: Feb 23, 2020, 10:27 PM
 

Just nice to see he recruited some shooters before the Pitt game and they've been shooting ever since


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Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 4:49 PM
 



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I swear there was an article on the T-Nets not too many


Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 7:32 PM
 

years back where CBB claimed his wife was calling him out on this very thing, and it supposedly changed his recruiting tactics. Apparently that pivot is taking a while to manifest.

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Posted: Feb 24, 2020, 9:28 PM
 

Gabe DaVoe was a really good shooter, but when he was off he was way off.


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