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Which QB gives us the best shot to beat FSU and SC?
Apr 14, 2014, 3:20 PM
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Those are the two most important games of the season every year, and that's what the ultimate decision should come down to.
Personally, I still think we need a lot more out of the QB in the running game if we want to take this offense to the next level. The main question that lingers for me after the Spring Game is how large is the disparity between Stoudt and Kelly in terms of how effective they are as ball-carriers. Stoudt was by no means perfect, but he made better decisions on Saturday. However, arm-wise Stoudt and Kelly seem to be of equal talent. While neither possess cannons, they both can make all of the throws necessary in this offense.
All of this off-the-field crap doesn't matter. In the end, the QB that can lead our actual 1st team offense down the field the most consistently in practice will win the job. I don't think Saturday's Spring Game with it's split squads and very vanilla game plans got us any closer to that answer.
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What are our chances for getting
Apr 14, 2014, 3:22 PM
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Peyton Manning to at least come play the FSU game for us??
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please no. this is one of those "big games" that payton just
Apr 14, 2014, 3:40 PM
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can't seem to win, at least with any regularity.
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His superbowl ring says hi
Apr 14, 2014, 3:50 PM
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please re-read what i wrote. tia in advance.***
Apr 14, 2014, 3:53 PM
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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No I did read it, still if you're even like 1 out of 3
Apr 14, 2014, 3:59 PM
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in superbowls, that's still better than 99% of everyone that's played football
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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I actually have no statistics to back that up, but
Apr 14, 2014, 4:06 PM
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I do know it's gotta be a high percentile of people he's in that's won a superbowl, or even to narrow it down further, of starting players to win a superbowl, or even to narrow it down further, of starting quarterbacks to win a superbowl
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He went 1 and 2 in the Super Bowl...Beating Rex Grossman
Apr 14, 2014, 4:04 PM
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hardly counts
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He wasn't playing Rex Grossman, he was playing the
Apr 14, 2014, 4:17 PM
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other team's defense. That's like saying Russell Wilson beat Peyton Manning. No, Wilson beat the Broncos defense
Dood a superbowl ring is a superbowl ring
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Re: What are our chances for getting
Apr 14, 2014, 4:07 PM
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Peyton isn't a running QB so we still wouldn't have a chance.
HTH that helps
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i disagree, but admit I may be in
Apr 14, 2014, 3:35 PM
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The minority. I think a lot of things should matter , not just WIns over fsu and usuc.
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Re: Which QB gives us the best shot to beat FSU and SC?
Apr 14, 2014, 3:46 PM
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stout shows cool composure every time he's on the field........im tired of headcases running the show.
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When did we ever have a headcase running the show?
Apr 14, 2014, 3:48 PM
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Boyd, Parker, Harper, Proctor, Whitehurst....I wouldn't call any of them headcases.
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Re: When did we ever have a headcase running the show?
Apr 14, 2014, 3:49 PM
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I would say Boyd was a head case at times.
Parker was a decent QB until the rib shot vs Auburn.
Proctor has a noodle arm and Whitehurst was very good on a team with a mediocre coach.
Harper, never quite figured him out. He was awesome the first year and stunk the next.
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Re: Which QB gives us the best shot to beat FSU and SC?
Apr 14, 2014, 3:51 PM
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Charley.
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Jameis Winston, since this is purely hypothetical. ***
Apr 14, 2014, 3:53 PM
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Equal arm-wise? I disagree.
Apr 14, 2014, 3:56 PM
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> However, arm-wise Stoudt and Kelly seem to be of equal talent.
Wat? Stoudt is definitely the better passer. Can't just look at arm strength, he's much more accurate and a better decision maker in the passing game.
It's to be expected. The gap in experience is quite large. Stoudt has played meaningful snaps in college and had lots of time to refine his game.
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Stoudt has played meaningful snaps?
Apr 14, 2014, 4:09 PM
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The only game where the game was even close to being in doubt in which Stoudt played was BC way back in 2011. Playing with the 2nd team in 3 score games isn't meaningful action.
Stoudt still has a lot to prove. Looking good in mop-up duty is nothing like looking good against a first-string elite defense.
Neither QB looked spectacular on Saturday, and both made questionable decisions. I don't even think Watson is out of contention yet.
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Which games are you referring to where Stoudt came into
Apr 14, 2014, 4:15 PM
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a competitive game and did more than hand it off?
Neither player has ever started a game. To call either one of them experienced is a huge stretch.
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Stoudt has been making appearances for three years
Apr 14, 2014, 4:17 PM
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He's learned the system in and out, has beefed up considerably.
Yes, Stoudt is much more experienced than Chad. Why is this so hard to believe? He's a freaking senior, of course he's got more experience.
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My argument has nothing to do with Kelly...
Apr 14, 2014, 4:29 PM
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I haven't once said Kelly has more experience.
My contention is that neither QB is experienced at all. 19 players on our defense had more snaps just last season than Stoudt has had in his first 4 years on campus.
If you wanted me to rate the 2 QBs in terms of experience, Kelly's a 2/10 in terms of experience, while Stoudt's a 4/10, for whatever that's worth.
We can guess that Stoudt is a master of this offense, but we really don't know. The fact that Stoudt hasn't been named the starter yet should be concerning because like you said, "he's a freaking senior", and he should be the man.
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Charlie Whitehurst? Went 6-1 against them...And that was
Apr 14, 2014, 4:03 PM
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with idiots calling for Willie Simmons (0-1) and Will Proctor (1-1) to start...
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Charlie Whitehurst also played absolutely terrible USuC
Apr 14, 2014, 4:15 PM
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teams and average FSU teams.
That being said I'd take him over Boyd easily.
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Not sure how Whitehurst would do in this system
Apr 14, 2014, 4:18 PM
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He was a slowwwww white boy. I think he could have done well in a pro-style offense with a similar talent level to what we have now, though.
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Then you change the system***
Apr 14, 2014, 4:24 PM
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That 03 FSU game was the perfect storm...against FSU
Apr 14, 2014, 4:36 PM
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It was also Tommy Bowden at his best. He motivated that team after losing to Wake...I don't know how he did it...but he did.
Guarantee you FSU walked into DV, being ranked #3, thinking it would be a cake walk.
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Tommy Bowden didn't put his head down and split 2 NFL DT's
Apr 14, 2014, 6:58 PM
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like buttcheeks to get that TD before the half...Charlie did...and shame on you for trying to downplay it...
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not chad it seems***
Apr 14, 2014, 4:19 PM
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