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Whether Tua is in or Out Should Not Matter in Their Record
Oct 22, 2019, 3:56 PM
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A Team is the sum of it's parts and Dabo has built a true "team" not just 25 superstar starters. Tough nutz Bama or anyone else if you lose a key player. There should be no Mulligan if you are truly evaluating a Team's worthiness.
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a 1 loss alabama team is automatically in
Oct 22, 2019, 3:57 PM
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it's written down
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What if they lost to Arky?***
Oct 22, 2019, 3:58 PM
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I don't think that's true at all.
Oct 22, 2019, 4:10 PM
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If Bama loses, and LSU,Clemson,OH ST, and OK are undefeated they will NOT be in the CFP.
An undefeated P5 conference champ will not be left out in favor of a 1 loss team (especially one that didn't win it's conference).
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Re: I don't think that's true at all.
Oct 22, 2019, 9:03 PM
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If Bama loses, and LSU,Clemson,OH ST, and OK are undefeated they will NOT be in the CFP.
An undefeated P5 conference champ will not be left out in favor of a 1 loss team (especially one that didn't win it's conference).
People do not understand this! Everyone goes back to 2017 when Bama didn't win their own division let alone their conference. But, in that year Georgia despite one loss, won the SEC. Wisconsin - pulled a "badgering" and lost to Ohio St in the Big 10 Championship game. This nuance is what keeps getting missed by people! Had Wisconsin won we would have likely been playing Georgia or Wisconsin in 2017 1st round.
So you had - ACC champ. SEC champ. Big 12 champ. SEC 2nd best team. W/O the dramatic loss by the Badgers Bama does not get in.
Georgia, LSU or Bama - sorry SEC homers - two will be left out if ACC, Big 12 and Big 10 have undefeated champs. Perception be ###### when talking about what criteria has been said to hold the most weight. In fact, due to that year the committee has had to re-assure conference championship was key in their decision making process!
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Sum of it's parts
Oct 22, 2019, 9:09 PM
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Football is the ultimate team sport. But, media types who likely never played past grey-y try to make it: QB vs QB starts! Like a boxing match! Right now, Trevor Lawrence isn't playing the best QB in the country and they are making the entire Clemson team pay for it.
Tua being out should not make or break bama. I don't think it will - his brother is also really good. And supposedly runs better. They beat everyone in the SEC by 29.1 ppg last year and the analyst/experts proclaimed them the best ever b/c of it. B/C if you can dominate SEC competition like that - you have to be right. These clowns still don't get how "over-hyped the SEC is". Lots of talent for sure. Recruiting rankings will tell you that. But, Clemson has had lower recruiting classes than all the contenders the last few years and have been whipping them! It takes more to be a good team than a collection of talent.
So - will it change their perception of bama if they lose with Tua out. It shouldn't; but maybe! Some who get it and are real football heads will not allow it to be an excuse to lose this ultimate team sport!
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true, however bama plays in the $ec, it just means more.***
Oct 22, 2019, 3:58 PM
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i agree
Oct 22, 2019, 4:04 PM
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I don't think injuries should be considered at all.
Yeah it sucks but that's football and everyone has to deal with injuries. Other teams should not be punished because a player gets injured.
Like for instance why should a 1 loss Penn State or something be negatively impacted because a player on another team got hurt?
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If I'm not mistaken
Oct 22, 2019, 4:04 PM
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Didn't we argue for records not to count when we lost to Syracuse because we lost Bryant?
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I think that should only ever come into play
Oct 22, 2019, 4:11 PM
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When comparing teams that *ALSO* have a loss.
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I think the biggest arguments were over why Zerrick...
Oct 22, 2019, 7:52 PM
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...Cooper came in vs Hunter Johnson in relief. A sub-argument was why was KB playing in the first place cause he was already injured.
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Re: I think the biggest arguments were over why Zerrick...
Oct 22, 2019, 8:40 PM
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Wholeheartedly agree with this.
As fans we wanted to know why the guy who was prepped to start got the rug pulled out because a crippled guy "felt good". When the guy who was supposed to start came in in relief, he had no mental warmup.
Then because SYR controlled the clock, our coaches never made the next progression in going to HJ, the intended relief guy if Zerrick struggled.
I felt like Dabo had a plan, then scrapped it when KB said he didn't want to miss the start. It cost us the game.
But hey, Dabo learned not to hitch his wagon to an underperforming QB, which sure helped in 2018.
Thanks, Dabo!
At no point did i or most Clemson fans suggest that our loss should not be held against us; only that it should not be held farther against us than other teams' losses. Only 3 conference champs survived the CCGs that year with 1 loss or fewer. There was never any question as to our making the playoff. We were the #1 seed and defending national champs.
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