Where we really need to stand on this Kavanaugh thing

I know. It's pretty arrogant for me to say this needs to be the last word on this issue. But I haven't exactly been accused of humbleness lately.

And what I'm about to say probably isn't going to resonate well with the folks whom are usually allies with me on this board.

I'm sick of the immediate partisanship on this issue. The immediate flocking to Kavanaugh's side and the denouncing of Ford is pretty disgusting. But the willingness to blindly believe Ford has also unsettled me.

I've been up close and personal to situations where women were legitimate victims and people doubted them without bothering to listen to their story. But I've also, unfortunately, seen a woman lie to try to destroy a man (she was busted on her lie with real evidence, so it wasn't me just assuming).

So let's break it down:
-Republicans are blindly believing Kavanaugh without any possible consideration that this woman could be a victim. That's sick.
-But Dems are demanding unreasonable actions because this has suddenly become politically convenient. That's also sick.
-They want an FBI investigation. Here's why that's absurd: 1. This isn't a federal matter. 2. Even if true, Kavanaugh can't be prosecuted now. 3. They want an FBI investigation so they can delay the hearing. Even if you don't like Kavanaugh and his stances, that's not a comforting practice of our government. A criminal investigation just to hold up a confirmation due to political ideology? That disturbs me.

So here's what it finally boils down to. I'm going to operate on an assumption that Ford is honest and Kavanaugh actually did what she said. And here's where I'm going to #### off my P&R allies:

We have to let it go.

Because all we have, and all we will ever have, is one word vs. another word. And we will never have any physical, real evidence to prove one way or another.

And for the sake of American democracy and the spirit of what our Bill of Rights stand for, we MUST err on the side of the accused. I would rather a guilty man get away with something than an innocent man be torn down due to lack of proof. And our founding fathers felt the same way.

I know. That might mean we possibly but a sexual creep on the Supreme Court. But what if we ruin the life of an innocent man?

P.S. Trumpies, you would completely flip the other way if this accusation came from a woman against a Dem. So don't puff out your chest. You still suck out loud in all of this.

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Sep 28, 2018, 7:14 AM

disagree with some of your statements.

"So let's break it down:
-Republicans are blindly believing Kavanaugh without any possible consideration that this woman could be a victim. That's sick."

I don't think you're giving anyone credit for basic human decency. I did not dismiss Ford's testimony. I realized my personal prejudice toward her and dismissed my opinion here in a public forum. You have no possible idea the depth of my disrespect for a woman who uses her femininity to attack someone. If at any place in this post you see biased I'm sure you'll point it out.

"-They want an FBI investigation. Here's why that's absurd: 1. This isn't a federal matter. 2. Even if true, Kavanaugh can't be prosecuted now. 3. They want an FBI investigation so they can delay the hearing. Even if you don't like Kavanaugh and his stances, that's not a comforting practice of our government. A criminal investigation just to hold up a confirmation due to political ideology? That disturbs me..."

Did you leave out the part where they had the allegation for a long time and investigated Ford themselves? Did you ignore that week long delay in the hearing due to her not liking to fly then testifying that she flew to the South Pacific for vacations and for work and even to DC for the hearing? Did you miss the fact that she claimed she didn't know the Committee would travel to Cali to hold the hearing last week?

The republicans knew they had hard hitting questions but played the game. They could have forced the issue in public but they wanted the stage and played like they respected the witness even though we all know Ford's corroboration witnesses worked more against her than they worked for her. Three people denied that they had no knowledge of the event she described. Her best friend sent a letter to the committee which was subject to exactly the same severeness as lying to the FBI. She said she didn't know Kavanaugh, had never met him or ever gone to a party where he was present. Anyone keeping up knew that before the hearing. Ford testified in the hearing that her friend was there, several times she stuck with her story.

My impression of Ford was that she believed what she said. All I had to go on here was my impression of her testimony. Kavanaugh's 10 year old daughter was right. 'We should all pray for that woman."

I do not believe her lawyers failed to investigate her claims and I don't believe the Senate Dems were ignorant either. In fact the republicans are more culpable than anyone in this. They took this to hearing to force a party line vote and manipulate the dems from Trump backed voters in those few state. They had the votes, nobody was really undecided. They didn't have to let this play out.

Pubs spiked the ball. This morning I have as much contempt for them as I do for congressional dems who showed their butts during the past couple months. I agree with one guy, Lindsey Graham. Well, I agree with him if I can imagine he was talking to everyone there including himself.

It's a disgrace.
Everyone on that panel knew exactly how this would turn out and they did it at the expense of Ford and Kavanaugh.

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My friend,

Re: Where we really need to stand on this Kavanaugh thing

I have said all along that it was really that simple.

If this were criminal court I might agree

But do we risk ruining a potentially innocent man's life?

If this is allowed to knock Kavanaugh out, then it sets a

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