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When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 10:56 AM
 

Big shoutout to PETA for ruining the best entrance in College Football.

https://www.thecollegefix.com/clemson-stops-releasing-balloons-at-football-games-under-pressure-from-peta/


Animal Rights aside

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:16 AM
 

Do we really need flying litter for the entrance to be great? We could do much more with lights and pyrotechnics if it needed more juice.


Re: Animal Rights aside

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:40 AM
 

Yes we do, coot

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Re: Animal Rights aside

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:43 AM
 

Shut up coot.

First, the balloons were biodegradable. Multiple environmental studies on our balloons proved that they posed 0 threat to animals or the environment.

Second, Clemson used the balloons for atmospheric and weather related research. Clemson is a space grant research institution, and releasing those balloons helped us conduct a 25+ year long study on climate effects and upper atmospheric weather patterns.


Re: Animal Rights aside

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:20 PM
 

We need balloons. We will let y'all keep the chicken "litter" in cootville.


Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:17 AM
 

I agree, bring back the balloons, not the same without em


Did that hurt your game day experience at death valley?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:18 AM
 

Cause I didnt even notice.

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Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:18 AM
 

I would settle for a full hill and angrier runs down from the players. It has gotten too skippy and not scary enough.


How do you propose clemson make students care


Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:21 AM
 

About football?

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Get rid of the bottleneck single entrance that has more

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:10 PM
 

security than an NSA checkpoint and takes well into the 1st quarter to get through. Let people stand on the #### Hill.

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I heard that 1 before


Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:46 PM
 

My response is.

Get there sooner. You know it is slower..get there sooner.


Your second point.
That was a saftey call. The liability of having 8000 people on the hill was more than Clemson wanted to assume.

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Please no “get there earlier” snarkies WITHOUT

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:06 PM
 

full disclosure of HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM DV!!

e.g., GVTiger = 45mi (I’m spitballin)
zxsam = 237mi (actual)

Leaving Lowcountry at 5am now (with 2, 7, and 12 yr-old grands) for a noon start. Sux but it is what it is.


If you are commuting 237 mIles to Clemson

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:25 PM
 

For school, more props to you. Especially if you are taking a 12 yr old to class with you. You are a dedicated student.

But agian.. you know your STUDENT hill ticket takes longer to get seated/stood. Head to the stadium 15 mins earlier and you will get there in time for the cannon.

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Re: I heard that 1 before

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:13 PM
 

Liability is a silly excuse. As a State owned institution, liability against Clemson is capped at $250k per incident. They could put land mines on the hill and still turn a profit.


I didn't write the policy and I AM sure


Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:29 PM
 

As heck am not willing to spend 250k per incident just to get 300 more people on a hill.

But I get your point. Email Drad.

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allow the Hill to be for anyone like it use to be

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:40 PM
 

no tickets and security checking them


Nobody will want to hear this, but the economics of this


Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:07 PM
 

time have a lot to do with the appearance of student apathy. We were, in a word, HORRIBLE during my time in Tigertown, ('72-76), but it was a point of pride for the student section to produce enough noise to rattle the opposition. But, back then, the student tickets were lower bowl, cemetery side of the stadium. Now, my understanding is that the students are relegated to upper decks or the Hill. Season Ticket sales forced that move, thus my statement about the economics of the time. To me, a valid solution would be to build a new East Zone seating section above the Hill, reaching from side to side connecting the upper decks, and make that Student Only seating. But, luxury boxes being what they are, if that seating is ever built, it will probably be poshed out to the rich and famous.

There never used to be a problem filling the Hill, because kids back then loved to just slide down the incline for fun. Modern kids are not so easily entertained. If it doesn't have electronic buttons attached to a game, they want no part of it. Also, with ALL the games back then starting around 1:30 due to no lights at the stadium, we students also gravitated towards Section GG just to soak up the sun. Sadly, this problem may just be one of those "Time marches on" things which really has no solution, at least not one that keeps the Hill as is.

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Re: Nobody will want to hear this, but the economics of this

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:17 PM
 

The balloons were a small and insignificant part of the Clemson gameday experience. Balloons and fireworks will come and go. Makes no never mind.

BTW, the hill was dead empty for a lot of games in the very late 60s and early 70s. In Coach Howard's final year hippies tossing frisbees on the hill attracted more attention than the play on the field. That made Coach Howard mad so he had the hill roped off and dispatched police to arrest students who went on the hill in defiance to the ban.

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:39 PM
 




I dunno about economics but I dnot recall

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:49 PM
 

Students ever sliding Down tyne hill.

Little kids yes, especially in the northwest endzone, but again little kids.

The hill now is ONLY for students. You have to have a ticket to sit there now and those are only given to studemts. Clemson also limited the amount of hill tickets. so the hill wont look as full as it used to even during big games that the students actally want.to go to.


My kids tried to get to the hill during the 4th qrt 4 times this year. 3 times they made it..one time they were not allowed in, even in the 4th qrt.

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:24 AM
 

Boy that’s the truth. If the students could be bothered to fill the Hill it would sure help. A partially empty hill even for sc is pathetic . And I agree, doing something to keep it from becoming 20 minutes of trickle down the hill would also help

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Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:22 AM
 

Yes a full hill would make huge difference


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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:22 AM
 

It wasn't PETA, it was Danielle Vosburgh, the "balloon killer"



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/balloons-under-scrutiny-for-environmental-impact/

https://balloonsblow.org/

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Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:47 AM
 

ANyone who is like me and grew up going to games in the 80s and 90s likes the balloons. But we need to get over it, replace the balloons with orange smoke and lights or firecrackers, something cool. Also, we gotta fill up the hill or add extra seats there on the flanks of the hill and make the hill skinnier.

The players should march down the hill arm in arm, like an army! Ha (joking).


Smoke?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:11 PM
 

Isn't that the exact thing we make fun of USuC for?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:27 PM
 

All the wasted fossil fuel on transporting people to the game is bad for the environment. All the grill smoke and generator emissions is harmful as well. If we truly care about the environment, maybe we should abolish college and NFL football.


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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:44 PM
 

A tired old defense. Since you can't do it all, let's do nothing. Yeah that's logical.

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Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:57 PM
 

Just tie the balloons to a reel with 500 feet of line and reel them back in to use at the next game!

Or, everybody bring an orange balloon and release them from the street outside the hill!

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Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:49 AM
 

Our country has created a culture of wimps. Can’t have baloons, protect kids from having outdoor activities,everyone gets a trophy. They have no reason to excel. No motivation to work. If the current generation doesn’t make changes our country will slowly dissolve. I probably won’t see it but I regret it for the next generation,my grandchildren and great grandchildren.


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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:12 PM
 



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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:46 PM
 

Exaggerate much?

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Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:49 AM
 

KFC is cruelty... bojangles is better!

As for the Balloons, yeah, that needed to stop. The balloons didn't make the entrance and it just not good husbandry of our resources. Negative impacts on our waterways (I took and aced my Clemson limnology/ecology courses). The admin did not "cave in" to groups, it listed to its students and alumni that took classes in long hall.

If you want to be wasteful, go to Cootlumbia. I hear they waste money, "potential", and time.


Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:51 AM
 

When I was at Clemson, a girl I dated was a research assistant and part of the pre-veterinary program.

She was helping a professor, Dr. Heather Dunn, transport mice across campus to one of the Clemson biology labs.

Dr. Dunn has been repeatedly harassed, had her home vandalized, and her life threatened by PETA sh1theads.


On this particular day in 2013, both my (ex) girlfriend and Dr. Dunn were attacked by PETA protesters, on campus, while transporting mice. These mice were infected with numerous diseases which they were researching.


Individuals from PETA attacked my GF and Dr. Dunn with baseball bats, and 4 individuals grabbed and pinned both my GF and Dr. Dunn to the ground while 2 other PETA individuals smashed the containers containing the mice (that clearly said "WARNING: BIOHAZARD), and then released the mice on campus.


Luckily, the diseases were not diseases that can affect humans, but who knows where those mice escaped to and what farms and livestock they spread their diseases to.

No arrests were made unfortunately. The case is still open.


PETA only cares about animals.

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:14 PM
 

They don't give a #### about humans.

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Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:54 AM
 

PETA is the worse organization in existence, worse even than the KKK.


Worse than what?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:15 PM
 



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Re: Worse than what?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:05 PM
 

Worse than everything. Obviously meant worst.


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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:50 PM
 

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Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:06 PM
 

#### PETA


Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 12:52 PM
 

All I have to say is eff those effing morons. I would release them just because i can.

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Whatever... it's just baloons. They don't make the entrance

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:36 PM
 

any better or worse for me.

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Which entrance? The current prance and skip down the hill


Posted: Dec 5, 2018 1:51 PM
 

one at a time? Or the real “most exciting...” from the past? There’s a difference and balloons have nothing to do with it.


CO2 Fire Extinguishers cause global warming and are

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 3:39 PM
 

destroying the Ozone Layer.

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Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 4:03 PM
 

I don't want the balloons. I just want the players to rush down the hill like they used to, not 2 players at a time.
Definitely not the most exciting 25 seconds that way.


Re: When Can We Get Our Entrance Back?

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Posted: Dec 5, 2018 11:37 PM
 

I would almost guarantee PETA had jack squat to do with it. They are media ###### and saw an opening to gain some publicity (to mean $$$). This issue has been simmering for a while.


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