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All-In [26968]
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What's more stupid and arrogant?
Sep 9, 2015, 10:15 AM
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1. To think your middling football team is worthy of praise just because it plays in a certain conference
2. To think your football team is important enough that multi-billion dollar ESPN has an organized effort to give it negative coverage
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I'll take option 3...
Sep 9, 2015, 10:17 AM
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Putting this crap on your already ugly stadium
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All-In [26968]
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Good golly, is that permanent?***
Sep 9, 2015, 10:18 AM
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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The stadium? Looks pretty permanent***
Sep 9, 2015, 10:20 AM
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All-In [26968]
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I mean that banner thing. Didn't know if it is always there
Sep 9, 2015, 10:21 AM
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Or if it was some kind of temporary celebratory thing when he became the winningest coach.
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Orange Blooded [2894]
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Re: I mean that banner thing. Didn't know if it is always there
Sep 9, 2015, 10:24 AM
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They remove his shirt during the summer so the coots can enjoy seeing his moobs.
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All-In [26968]
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lulz***
Sep 9, 2015, 10:25 AM
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You may Rally in the Valley, but you'll
Sep 9, 2015, 10:20 AM
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eat doo doo ice at Williams Brice.
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Hmmmm, dippin dots or doo doo ice?******
Sep 9, 2015, 10:50 AM
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Or "drunkest"***
Sep 9, 2015, 12:40 PM
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where in the Bible does God approve of trolling?***
Sep 9, 2015, 10:18 AM
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All-In [26968]
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Hezekiah 4:8***
Sep 9, 2015, 10:20 AM
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Sep 9, 2015, 10:20 AM
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I don't know: the arrogance displayed by someone
Sep 9, 2015, 10:41 AM
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who goes preachifying on their rivals board (uninvited) ranks right up there.
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110%er [6034]
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He is a Psychiatric case study
Sep 9, 2015, 10:51 AM
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Would be great to buy him for what he is worth, and sell him for what he thinks he is worth.
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Tell em, coot.***
Sep 9, 2015, 12:45 PM
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Oculus Spirit [82988]
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He's invited and urged to stay by many...greatest
Sep 9, 2015, 11:52 AM
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Braves stat man on Tigernet, plus a true bluegrass/gospel aficionado.
Plus, he's pretty smart of a coot.
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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that's awesome...
Sep 9, 2015, 12:07 PM
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you keep him.
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Oculus Spirit [93606]
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Ignoring the obvious SEC marketing strategy called...
Sep 9, 2015, 10:56 AM
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ESPiN
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A lesson in capitalism
Sep 9, 2015, 11:36 AM
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That multi-billion dollar corporation wants to continue to get ratings and make money. The easiest way to do that is to have the SEC continue to be held in high regard. Therefor, when teams like Clemson, Oklahoma, Oregon and FSU have tremendous success, it's bad for business. The easiest thing to do is pretend like none of those teams are as good as Arkansas (who is also incredibly boring to watch on top of not being that good), so people continue to only pay attention to the SEC.
It's common sense, and it's basic math. Sorry those two things has the escaped with you. Perhaps the FGF is more your speed.
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All-In [26968]
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You made one big, and unfounded, leap there.
Sep 9, 2015, 12:07 PM
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"That multi-billion dollar corporation wants to continue to get ratings and make money. The easiest way to do that is to have the SEC continue to be held in high regard."
You said it's basic math...that leap you made is not basic math. Unless you have numbers to back that up.
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Higher ratings on SEC network = more money
Sep 9, 2015, 12:11 PM
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That's not a great leap. And it is very basic math. $ when rating are good > $ when ratings suffer.
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All-In [26968]
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So getting higher ratings on one channel
Sep 9, 2015, 12:15 PM
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Which probably gets 1/100th the viewership of the main channel, is their "easiest route to making money"? Interesting...
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Considering their "main" channel
Sep 9, 2015, 12:20 PM
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plays mostly SEC games, with B1G games and a few ACC games mixed in, that just proves the point even more. Oklahoma and Oregon play some games on Fox. Clemson plays games every year on the ACC network. Notre Dame plays on NBC a lot. ESPN wants those games to get low ratings. They'd rather have someone watch Arkansas vs Vanderbilt on ESPN2 than Oklahoma vs West Virginia on Fox.
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Now we're getting somewhere.
Sep 9, 2015, 12:27 PM
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I've always thought ESPN would rather carry SEC games because those schools have more football fans.
I'd like to point out that we kinda veered off into ESPN being pro-SEC. Maybe they are to an extent. But originally, we were talking about them being anti-Clemson. When I watch ESPN, I get more of the sense that they're pro-everyone. They're promoting the sport. This is just me personally as an someone who has no bias toward or against Clemson...but I think they get very good coverage on ESPN, actually. They have gone a long ways to promote the hill entrance, exciting players like Spiller and Watkins, etc. I do believe they have a vested interest in promoting teams that are interesting, and Clemson is definitely one of those.
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Except they don't promote us
Sep 9, 2015, 1:03 PM
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They spend more time talking about Arkansas and Texas A&M than they do talking about Clemson. And when they do talk about us, it's "can they get over the hump?" As if being the most consistent team in the nation for 4 years running, having nothing but 10 win seasons isn't having arrived already. And why? They would rather people tune in to watch LSU play on ESPN than us play on another network.
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I guess I'm watching a different channel?***
Sep 9, 2015, 3:04 PM
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Oculus Spirit [82988]
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LOL, same with Ohio State? Southern Cal?
Sep 9, 2015, 1:08 PM
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The SEC would do pretty well to be held in high regard with or without ESPN. I to think a lot of the praise heaped on the SEC is make others throughout the country hate them and get so many vieiwers to tune in to pull against them.
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Re: What's more stupid and arrogant?
Sep 9, 2015, 11:37 AM
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Gamecock Fans and players....
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Orange Blooded [3422]
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Re: What's more stupid and arrogant?
Sep 9, 2015, 11:46 AM
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I'd say they're about equal.
I think you could argue #1 is more stupid because it's blatantly riding the coat tails of better teams. It's like a garbage man in Cambridge acting as if he's smart because he picks up the trash at Harvard & MIT.
#2 is more arrogant because it's so provincial and short-sighted. Small town America can be very insular and this is as perfect an example as there is.
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Oculus Spirit [82988]
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2. I can't believe the hundreds of posts on here about
Sep 9, 2015, 11:50 AM
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ESPN hating us. What utter nonsense.
ESPN is made up of hundreds of different voices.
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It's obvious Clemson is brought up at all of the
Sep 9, 2015, 12:05 PM
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company meetings. That's the only way all those different voices can have the same plan of attack.
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Ahhh you two
Sep 9, 2015, 12:09 PM
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make a cute couple.
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maybe they'll go full thelma & louise...
Sep 9, 2015, 12:17 PM
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then board suicide together?
fingers crossed
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I just felt it move.***
Sep 9, 2015, 1:03 PM
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Re: What's more stupid and arrogant?
Sep 9, 2015, 12:24 PM
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I suppose there are a number of teams that feel this way, but I can only speak from a Clemson fan's perspective. Even so, they do use the term "Clemsoning", which I highly doubt is a term of endearment. They are without a doubt SEC homers, and justifiably so. It is "simple math" and simple business. They make more money off of the SEC, especially when the SEC is doing well. The debate is over. It is true. They deliberately paint the SEC in a different light (they make excuses for SEC failures or poor performances, they compare the success of non-SEC teams as "SEC-esque," and they constantly promote that brand of football). It's makes perfect sense.
They define the SEC on the success of a few teams, while defining the others (esp. ACC) on the failures of a few teams.
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All-In [26968]
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In my experience, just about every school has a large
Sep 9, 2015, 12:28 PM
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segment of fans who think the media is biased against them. Clemson is far from unique in this regard.
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***astute***
Sep 9, 2015, 4:04 PM
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Well, this is a board where people talk about Clemson...
Sep 9, 2015, 6:17 PM
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About 50% of the time, anyway. 
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ESPN's use of "Clemsoning"...
Sep 9, 2015, 4:04 PM
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is not always directed against Clemson. I watch Sports Center all the time and see them using "Clemsoning" to refer to other teams, other sports or even individual tennis and golf players. They rarely use it referring directly to Clemson, so it's no conspiracy against Clemson.
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Yeah, they're just constantly associating choking
Sep 9, 2015, 5:15 PM
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with our university. Nothing against Clemson at all. LOL
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Oculus Spirit [93606]
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All fall victim to ESPiN's plot.
Sep 9, 2015, 4:17 PM
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Whether it's those who love, support and live through all the teams in the conference or those who hate the SEC and watch to see them crash and burn, we all watch the games.
Right now I'm looking forward to season end to see a repeat of the SEC fans spending 8 months watching ESPiN excuse the failure of the SEC east teams to beat ACC rivals and the SEC west teams furnishing butt for all the other power five conferences.
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Orange Blooded [2762]
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This is too easy- Finebum etc gave holy praise to all but 2
Sep 9, 2015, 3:09 PM
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in the SEC. Take a guess which 2 he trashed? I'll help: Vandy was 1 of the 2
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Finebaum is the bestard child of Quark the Ferengi and...
Sep 9, 2015, 4:20 PM
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Voyager's holographic doctor.
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LEMME TELL U WHAT'S STUPID AND IGNANT COOT
Sep 9, 2015, 4:13 PM
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YORE SCHOOL! THEY TOLE ME USC WAS THA BRIDGE PROGRAM TO CLEMSON WELL SOMEONE SHOOD CLOSE THAT DRAWBRIDGE!!!
SPUURRIR AINT GOT NO CLASS EITHER NOW TAKE THIS SMAKTALK TO GFF!
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