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All-In [30593]
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Can someone explain to me how one school can change
May 9, 2012, 10:27 AM
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a conference?
I don't understand all this talk about how ND is the big prize and would make the ACC more desirable and cause us to stay. Would they be a huge catch? Absolutely. But I don't see how they outweigh all the negative b/c of POSSIBLY one game a year with them.
IMO... the ACC is so bad football wise that you have to add 2 "football" schools and go to 16 in order to make it more attractive. You'd have to add ND and PSU, or poach a big SEC or Big XII School in order to make up for:
WF
UMD
Pitt
Cuse
BC
Duke
UNC
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Re: Can someone explain to me how one school can change
May 9, 2012, 10:33 AM
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I agree. It would take Notre Dame and one other big time football school to make the ACC sustainable as a top tier conference. Under Swofford's "leadership" I don't see that happening.
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110%er [9056]
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Nothing will change in the ACC until if/when the......
May 9, 2012, 10:36 AM
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people in charge commit to bringing football up to par with basketball. Unless that's done, the ACC will remain a basketball conference.
Needless to say, with the power UNC and Duke have it will be hard to move away from basketball.
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Re: Can someone explain to me how one school can change
May 9, 2012, 10:36 AM
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Add two cupcake teams each team in ACC plays and you have 9 who gives a chit games with weak sisters. No wonder the ACC gets no respect and will never see a NC game when the RPI SOS format is adopted. Why not add Dorman and Brynes to the conference? THey'd be better than most teams on that list year in and year out.
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ND = ratings = $ maybe more than anyone in the country***
May 9, 2012, 10:37 AM
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All-In [30593]
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don't buy it....
May 9, 2012, 10:39 AM
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you're telling me the ratings for ND vs. Duke/UNC/UMD/WF/Cuse, etc... are going to change the financial fortunes of the ACC?
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agree..look at nds schedule this yr and ask the ? of
May 9, 2012, 10:57 AM
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whether their fans would like to see games ag OU, BYU, Miami, USC, and Stanford..not to mention MSU and Mich.
who will trade that and tune in to watch the epic battle at Wallace Wade or Groves Stadium
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All Catholics are ND fans. Every Parish a recruiting base.
May 9, 2012, 11:22 AM
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Every Priest a recruiter. What? You never seen "Rudy?"
What Catholic could pull against the Mother of God?
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Oculus Spirit [83075]
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Yes, if televised nationally. You have tens of thousands of
May 9, 2012, 11:44 AM
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Catholic housewives in Chicago alone who would tune in?
Do you realize how many Catholics live in Chicago? New York? St. Louis? New Orleans even?
They kill in the ratings with casual viewers.
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ND @ WF was a nationally Televised Night game last year.***
May 9, 2012, 4:12 PM
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the same way one school, ND,
May 9, 2012, 10:41 AM
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can have NBC cater to their every whim.
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Well, technically UNC, Pitt, and Maryland CAN be good at
May 9, 2012, 11:20 AM
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football. (Pitt actually isn't that bad)
But some things are a constant: Duke and Cuse are going to suck, and BC and Wake aren't going to get but so good at football.
How you make a football move in 2003 by adding Miami and VT and then make a basketball move in 2011 by adding Pitt and (of all schools) Syracuse - gets me. Not sure what Swoffy was going for here.
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Since we all talk about tradition and hostory so much here
May 9, 2012, 11:51 AM
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Syracuse has a national championship with former players like Jim Brown and Donovan McNabb. Seems like the last time we played them I think in 1996 they whipped our a$$. Pittsburgh has 4 national titles and several smaller poll titles. Aheisman winner in Tony Dorsett and one of the greatest qb's of all time Dan Marino. My point is, they have the tradition and history to be great football programs.
As far as this talk about the Big 12 goes, I think we need to look no further than BC as to why we don't need to go to the big 12. BC has been isolated as far as their natural footprint with no games in that footprint except home games. The same would be true if we went to the Big 12. While it certainly didn't help that they lost their football coach, the basketball team was very ngood before entering the ACC but has also fallen on hard times.
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NBC pays ND $15 mil/yr. ***
May 9, 2012, 12:02 PM
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Re: Can someone explain to me how one school can change
May 9, 2012, 12:29 PM
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Cuse and Pitt have something usuc doesnt have
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Re: Can someone explain to me how one school can change
May 9, 2012, 1:32 PM
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academics? class? national titles?
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ND changed the whole face of college football by leaving
May 9, 2012, 12:31 PM
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the CFA. If we still had the old CFA, all this talk about conference revenue would be moot. ND leaving the CFA to cut it's own deal with NBC started all this conference realignment BS.
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ND is hugely popular in the northeast's urban markets,
May 9, 2012, 1:34 PM
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which is now inextricably tied to the ACC's fortunes due to its recent expansion efforts. ND would serve as a key cog to launching an actual ACC cable network that could gain serious traction not just up and down the east coast but nationally, as well as bring an enhanced level of appeal for the league for Saturday fall programming from the networks.
Notre Dame would likely benefit from a schedule that would soften up by a few games compared to what they're doing now, padding their normally abysmal record.
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Re: Can someone explain to me how one school can change
May 9, 2012, 4:08 PM
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Disagree actually. In the eyes of the fans adding ND may not be enough. In terms of money and pull with the NCAA, ND is the big fish. Heck, at the playoff meetings you had all the conference presidents and the ND athletic director. With ND the TV deals will get better and you'll be much less likely to get left out of any BCS deals.
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When I see talk about Pitt and Cuse not
May 9, 2012, 4:26 PM
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not being football school, I have to grin a little. Cuse is number 15 on all time W/L list with a record of 691-492-49 and 1 NC...Pitt is number 20 with 678-493-41 and 1 NC. Clemson is number 25 with 658-493-45 and 1 NC. What is the overall difference?
I also remember a couple of tough games with each of them.
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Re: When I see talk about Pitt and Cuse not
May 9, 2012, 4:30 PM
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Yep these guys forget the whipping the cuse put on us a few short years ago. They suck right now but both are highly respected in athletic circles
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Orange Blooded [4505]
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Dude, most Mexicans are Catholic. They are coming in by the
May 9, 2012, 4:28 PM
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millions.
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