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CU Guru [1799]
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We will not be in the ACC two years from now.
May 31, 2012, 12:24 PM
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If you guys believe that just because the Big 12 said they are not expanding right now means that they are not expanding, then you're fooling yourselves. Bottom line, Clemson is the only ACC school that did not come out on the record and support the ACC. We are leaving, it is just a matter of time. You don't tell people that you are open to new relationships right in front of your girlfriend unless you know it is over. We are leaving, it is just a matter of when.
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Re: We will not be in the ACC two years from now.
May 31, 2012, 12:26 PM
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You do if you want the ACC to step it up. The ACC knows it is nothing without FSU and Clemson. If the schools threaten to leave they will be forced to change things.
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CU Guru [1198]
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Re: We will not be in the ACC two years from now.
May 31, 2012, 12:29 PM
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There isn't much the ACC can change that would help. Too many dead weight football programs that don't have the fans to fill up their little stadiums or TV viewers to get a good TV contract.
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You're delusional,
May 31, 2012, 12:34 PM
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As much as I love Clemson the only thing we bring to the table is a good baseball program and a decent but underachieving football program.
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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Yep, sounds like true love. LOL!!***
May 31, 2012, 12:39 PM
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CU Medallion [55284]
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Re: You're delusional,
May 31, 2012, 12:50 PM
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You're just another delusional cootie!!!
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Head Coach [757]
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Go back to sleep.... you're still dreaming!***
May 31, 2012, 12:27 PM
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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96 posts with the SAME message. Must be a record.***
May 31, 2012, 12:40 PM
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110%er [5465]
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You know, I did believe we were going to the Big 12 until
May 31, 2012, 12:30 PM
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you chimed in. I now change my opinion because you are usually wrong about everything!
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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wut if your gf is into that kinda thing?
May 31, 2012, 12:31 PM
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i'll hang up and listen.
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Orange Blooded [3049]
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Funnist thing I've read all day!
May 31, 2012, 2:04 PM
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LOL
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Orange Blooded [4774]
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Stand by your computers for two years***
May 31, 2012, 12:39 PM
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Letterman [260]
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Re: We will not be in the ACC two years from now.
May 31, 2012, 12:43 PM
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Are we going back to the Southern Conference?
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Hall of Famer [24440]
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i actually think we would have a good chance of dominating
May 31, 2012, 3:41 PM
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the southern conference. lol
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Orange Blooded [4095]
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Again, what is so great about the Big-12?????
May 31, 2012, 12:45 PM
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I for one, have NEVER been that interested in what goes on in Iowa or Oklahome. Why should a highly regarded Southern school feel the need to play out there?. What Clemson does now is fine. Its in a very highly regarded conference and plays TWO (2) SEC Teams a year in its twelve game schedule. Everybody in the world EXCEPT a small vocal minority on TNet thinks it would be brain-dead stupid the leave the ACC for the dust bowl conference. For kicks, take a test drive out there .... yes, its paradise ....
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CU Guru [1363]
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I thought you were serious until I saw
May 31, 2012, 12:54 PM
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"What Clemson does now is fine. Its in a very highly regarded conference"
And btw, while the Big 12 is at 12 we could still play 2 SEC schools. ACC is expanding so we will eventually lose that ability with them anyways.
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Head Coach [757]
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Wrong again....
May 31, 2012, 1:05 PM
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Gosh, some of you people just make up facts. We'll be playing 9 conference games with the 14 teams in the conference. This leaves 3 games OOC, do you really like going to Citadel, Furman, PC, Western Carolina games that much?
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Standout [313]
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Re: Wrong again....
May 31, 2012, 2:44 PM
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Well, but we now have to choose between keeping our schedule at 7 home games per year or playing two quality out of conferences opponents every year.
Old ACC Way:
4 OOC Games: For us, 2 Quality (one home, one away), and Two Cupcakes (Both Home): or 3 home 1 away each year
8 Conference Games (4 home/4 away)
Total: 7 Home/5 Away
New Way:
3 OOC Games: To keep our Georgia Series we decided to drop a cupcake, so we will now have 2 home 1 away.
9 Conference Games: Alternating 5 home/4 away and 4 home/5 away, average of 4.5 home/4.5 away.
Total Average of 6.5 home/5.5 away.
So to keep our two SEC OOC opponents, we have dropped a half of a home game per year on average. For this we gain, an extra ACC game per year. Having that extra cupcake every year makes a serious difference to the bottom line of the CUAD and the community. We're talking about millions upon millions of dollars.
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CU Guru [1363]
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Wow, looks like I was right
Sep 14, 2012, 11:20 AM
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since we cancelled the OK St and Ole Miss series'... look who's making up facts now
Obviously if we go back to 8 conference games now this whole argument is irrelevant
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CU Medallion [55284]
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Too many to list ....
May 31, 2012, 1:00 PM
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google it ... when I say ACC I mean ACC OVERALL. Yes, in Football, ACC is "ranked" 5, in everything else, its #1 or very close to it. All in all, a VERY GOOD conference. Did you know there is more to Clemson then the Football Team? Do you go to Clemson?, did you go to Clemson?, do you have a child that goes goes to Clemson?
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110%er [5627]
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who cares about all those other sports??? They could get rid
May 31, 2012, 1:44 PM
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of them and just play intramurals for all I care
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Oculus Spirit [81607]
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Thanks for representing my University with that view...***
May 31, 2012, 2:07 PM
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CU Guru [1210]
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Re: Thanks for representing my University with that view...***
May 31, 2012, 2:11 PM
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Nobody gives darn about soccer....
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Oculus Spirit [81607]
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And neither do I, but you're new here, and send stupid
May 31, 2012, 2:14 PM
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threatening t-mails to me, so I wouldn't expect you to understand.
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CU Guru [1210]
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Re: And neither do I, but you're new here, and send stupid
May 31, 2012, 2:16 PM
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hahahaha
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110%er [5627]
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Orange Blooded [4095]
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Clemson needs to start a Lacrosse Team and a Women's ....
May 31, 2012, 2:33 PM
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Beach Volley Ball team...
The average Lacrosse Parent is much more well heeled then your average "Earl and Lester" Football type....
The average Women's Beach volley parent ... have y'all ever seen Beach Volley Ball!!!!
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Head Coach [757]
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Orange Blooded [4095]
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Clemson University FIRST, then Football
May 31, 2012, 1:15 PM
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Alumnus
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Head Coach [757]
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Start a poll...
May 31, 2012, 1:19 PM
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Clemson University or Clemson Football fan....
Alumnus or non-Alumnus....
I think you'll see who the real fans are then.
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All-In [40868]
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I have two degrees from Clemson
May 31, 2012, 1:43 PM
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and it's time to move. Clemson first, which means dump the ACC.
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Legend [19197]
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I am an alumni and every alum I know whats to get out of the
May 31, 2012, 1:46 PM
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ACC. Sorry to BUST your bubble in believing that alums don't want to leave.
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Head Coach [757]
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Sorry but my alumni friends say otherwise....***
May 31, 2012, 2:02 PM
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Legend [19197]
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Well then -- our alumni is diverse -- and that is why your
May 31, 2012, 2:09 PM
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opinion is SO STRANGE to me.
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Oculus Spirit [81607]
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LOL, you are an alumnus, not an alumni
May 31, 2012, 2:09 PM
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You must not know many alumni friends. I can think of 10 I've talked to personally on the subject and every single one of them is vehemently against moving to the Big XII.
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Legend [19197]
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Are you from South Carolina? Because the ones I have talked
May 31, 2012, 2:11 PM
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to all agree that we have to look out for what's best for Clemson not the ACC.
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Oculus Spirit [81607]
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If you see next to my username, I'm in Raleigh.
May 31, 2012, 2:13 PM
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My wife in Raleigh doesn't want to go to the Big XII. Two Clemson grad friends of ours in Raleigh don't want to go. Three friends living in Greenville, SC don't want to go. A friend living in Aiken, SC doesn't want to go. Three in Maryland don't.
I agree, I look out for whats best for Clemson, and moving to the Big XII ain't it.
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Legend [19197]
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My Clemson friends/alumnus in Allendale, Aiken, Hampton,
May 31, 2012, 2:17 PM
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and Beaufort, SC want to go as well as alumnus I know in Savannah, Ga and Jacksonville, Florida so I guess things are seen differently in different places.
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Head Coach [757]
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No wonder... you're out in the boon docks....***
May 31, 2012, 2:20 PM
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Legend [19197]
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You sound like an elitist snob-ACC supporter.***
May 31, 2012, 2:21 PM
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And yes-you called for that.
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Head Coach [757]
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Not happy with ACC either.... the way it is now.
May 31, 2012, 2:32 PM
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Football in the conference definitely needs to be brought up to par. Basketball, baseball, and other ACC sports are at the top. We are already in the largest demographic area in the country and best suited for more exposure.... if football is brought up with the great schools that are already in there's no reason that we'll be left out of any NC scenarios in the future. We were up to #5 last year, until we finished poorly. If other ACC schools bail then we'd have no reason not to leave, just hope it doesn't happen.
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Oculus Spirit [93604]
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I'd like to see a pig fly out of somebody's butt too?
May 31, 2012, 2:39 PM
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Same probability.
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Head Coach [757]
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You never know.... maybe that pig will fly!***
May 31, 2012, 3:01 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93604]
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To be honest I believe eventually ND will give the ACC a...
May 31, 2012, 3:05 PM
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good close look. They will always be a diva and high maintenance but most likely worth the trouble.
Getting them to join the ACC is much more likely than pigs flying but not much. I think they will end up in the B1G. Overall they are a better fit there.
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Head Coach [757]
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Maybe so but it would be a good fit for us too...
May 31, 2012, 3:25 PM
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I was at the '77 ND game and it was a great one. We almost won. They won the NC that year.
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Orange Blooded [4095]
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I talked to a Notre Dame Grad About this....
May 31, 2012, 3:28 PM
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i asked, why not the Big-10?, seems liek a natural fit... And he was emphatic about the hatred ..... Didn't get into it.... and then I mentioned the ACC ... and he said, "that might work..." Granted, just a guy ... you never know....
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Head Coach [757]
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I think it would be an awesome fit....***
May 31, 2012, 3:34 PM
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Legend [19197]
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It would help but there are tons of problems to solve with
May 31, 2012, 2:46 PM
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the ACC.
1) Scheduling (including bringing in OCC with 9 game scheule and scheduling big games like Clemson-FSU at the end of the year)
2) Promotion
3) Bowl tie-ins
4) TV (including money, start times, prime-time exposure, and eleminating any Friday night games)
5) Divisional alignment to put football first schools on one side and basketball first on the other side)
6) Bridging Culture-SC: football first culture vs NC:basketball first culture
7) At the heart of all of this is leadership.
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Orange Blooded [4095]
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With 9 Conference Games, what is the problem?
May 31, 2012, 3:33 PM
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So that leaves 3 games to play "others" .... can't we "can" the cupcake games? Someone said theres an agreement to play 2 games against local Community Colleges .... really? Play one easy game, and two, say, SEC games, or just play 3 big games out of Conference ... for example, USCAR, UGA, and everybody's favorite IOWA STATE!!! IN LATE NOVEMBER! Yes, I can't wait.....
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Legend [19197]
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Except when the one you are in--will NOT give you access
May 31, 2012, 2:19 PM
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to the highest level of competition, exposure, recruiting, and ability to play for it all.
Austria-Hungrary was a great country until World War I.
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Oculus Spirit [81607]
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[i]IF[/i] there is any benefit to the move to the Big XII, I
May 31, 2012, 2:22 PM
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still don't see it, but I'll just say IF, it is a very minor benefit, and exists for ONLY football.
All other sports will actually take a step backwards.
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Legend [19197]
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Oh, I get it--basketball and soccer are your game?
May 31, 2012, 2:25 PM
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Oculus Spirit [81607]
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No, I'm saying the minor gain of football is outweighed
May 31, 2012, 2:27 PM
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by the losses in all other sports.
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Legend [19197]
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We (and our friends, respective of each camp) will just have
May 31, 2012, 2:29 PM
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to agree to disagree.
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Head Coach [757]
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If it's all about football.....
May 31, 2012, 2:35 PM
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Yes you are right, if it's about the university then it would be more advantageous to stay depending on whether FSU and other schools stay. Miami has re-committed to staying, VT won't leave, GT can't rejoin the SEC, FSU talk of leaving is less than ours.
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About the same as me being interested in Maryland, Pitt,
May 31, 2012, 1:43 PM
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Syracuse, or BC.
I'll be honest--unless they are even good in football I have no interest in UNCheat, Duke, Virginia, or Wake Forest. Just-plain boring.
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Hall of Famer [24440]
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but iowa state, kansas and k-state-them's some football
May 31, 2012, 3:43 PM
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powerhouses.
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Re: Again, what is so great about the Big-12?????
May 31, 2012, 4:34 PM
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Hooters you have proved time and time again you dont understand the subject. You should probably stop posting about it.
You still believe the SEC will take us.
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Re: We will not be in the ACC two years from now.
May 31, 2012, 12:47 PM
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I personally believe this >>>>> BIG X11 logo will be on our Uniforms in 2013.
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YOU will still be in the SEC...coot***
May 31, 2012, 12:49 PM
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That you, york?***
May 31, 2012, 1:45 PM
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110%er [7913]
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I don't think we will either but it's going to be a painful
May 31, 2012, 2:06 PM
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exit for us and FSU...it's going to cause the conf pain so I'm certain they will try and sue both of us.
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Re: We will not be in the ACC two years from now.
May 31, 2012, 2:10 PM
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They arent going to expand because Texas is a bunch of Pu@@ys
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Hall of Famer [24440]
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we may very well be leaving, but you also might threaten to
May 31, 2012, 3:39 PM
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leave in order to improve your financial standing with the ACC. the girlfriend comparison is not exactly on point. in order to make that threat, however, you must be willing to follow through. but that doesn't mean there's no going back.
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Scout Team [182]
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Why do y'all respond to this woman's posts
Sep 14, 2012, 11:25 AM
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you know she is a troll.
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Orange Blooded [3362]
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Re: Why do y'all respond to this woman's posts
Sep 14, 2012, 4:56 PM
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I know $50,000,000 reason why we can't go
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