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Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 2:49 PM
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Not saying that I am in the fire Browned camp (yet), but who could we get knowing that higher profile teams like Indiana, Ohio State, Georgetown, etc are also likely to open up?
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 2:49 PM
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Will wade
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 2:51 PM
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What has he proven?
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that he looked better with Shaka's talent?***
Feb 5, 2017, 2:53 PM
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 2:50 PM
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Will Wade.
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 2:52 PM
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Why?
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 3:48 PM
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Clemson guy.
Wants the job.
Terrific young coach.
Passionate.
Can recruit.
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Hmmmmm.....
Feb 6, 2017, 1:00 PM
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I have at least 3 out of those 5 boxes checked. For me! Should I at least get an interview?
I mean...once there is a job opening...because there is not.
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 2:50 PM
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Will Wade is a no brainer. Alum, great guy and has won at both UTC and VCU.
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 2:51 PM
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The truth is BB is a 2nd ranked sport at Clemson by the AD depth. Has been and always will be.
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 2:52 PM
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with what we've built I think we could get some decent candidates. I think the roster would need some pruning. these transfers clearly have no interest in the D end of the court
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I would have thought we could have attracted a proven P5
Feb 5, 2017, 2:55 PM
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coach LAST time around, but they all spurned us and he had to go to the Horizon league for Brad
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We were lucky to get Brad...let that sink in***
Feb 5, 2017, 2:52 PM
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Re: We were lucky to get Brad...let that sink in***
Feb 5, 2017, 2:59 PM
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Will Wade makes more than CBB, their basketball budget is bigger than Clemson, VCU basketball is the top sport on campus, it is easier to recruit in Richmond due to geography and frankly VCU is a better basketball job.
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None of that changes the fact that we WERE lucky to get Brad***
Feb 5, 2017, 3:03 PM
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who else wanted him?*****
Feb 6, 2017, 8:38 PM
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A coach bigger than Clemson is about our only hope.
Feb 5, 2017, 2:59 PM
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That , of course, will take money but it is the only way to change the perception of basketball both inside the Clemson family and outside. Barnes turned out to be that even though I'm not sure anyone knew it at the time we hired him.
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Barnes came from a Big 6 conference...List the guys we have
Feb 5, 2017, 3:02 PM
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gotten who were a HC in a BCS conference
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Big East was a monster basketball league then
Feb 5, 2017, 3:15 PM
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Providence was probably bottom of the barrel compensation wise, and Barnes had southern roots. It's hard to think of a major college coach coming here without huge dollars thrown their way. And I just don't see that happening.
If a move is made, I think the working list includes Wade, Archie Miller, Dan Hurley and maybe Ed Cooley, also of Providence. Can't think of a single major conference guy. Barnes is the only guy we've hired that fits that description, and I don't see someone like that out there now. Not even someone recently let go someplace else.
Going back to the sixties, our hires have been:
Bobby Roberts-Clemson assistant
Tates Locke-Army
Bill Foster-UNCC
Cliff Ellis-South Alabama
Barnes-Providence
Shyatt-Wyoming
OP-Dayton
Brad-Wright St
It's going to be a mid major guy unless is an assistant at a big time program
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So it's a short list? I'm 47 and Rick is the only HC I could
Feb 5, 2017, 3:24 PM
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remember from a Power5/Big6 conference
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Will Wade
Feb 5, 2017, 3:00 PM
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Will Wade...
Will Wade
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I think we should get that guy at College Of Charleston
Feb 5, 2017, 3:02 PM
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Forgot his name, he was an assistant here before he got the HC job at CofC ... I think he would do well here
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Earl Grant !
Feb 5, 2017, 3:04 PM
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Just googled it
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I don't know enough about the potential pool of coaches to
Feb 5, 2017, 3:05 PM
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give you a name, but it defies reality to suggest that we can't do better than this. It's simply a bogus excuse for not doing something.
You never know when you hire a coach; even "proven winners" fail, and sometimes an unknown will take you to the top. What we do know with a great deal of certainty is what Brownell is capable of at Clemson; we have a 7 year track record. It's starry-eyed wishful thinking at best to think that the next seven would be any different. Barring a shocking turnaround, we know Brownell is not the answer. We know that somebody else could be.
We need somebody who can recruit. That means either a fairly big name, or a young up-and-comer who relates to recruits; a coach who can sell all of the wonderful things Clemson has to offer and that recruits want to play for. I would take either, but I think our chances are better with the latter.
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Re: Matt McCall
Feb 5, 2017, 3:21 PM
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Earl Grant did not do well last year at C of C. He is doing better this year though.
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If a move is made they aren't bringing in someone
Feb 5, 2017, 3:24 PM
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with ties to Brownell
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Re: If a move is made they aren't bringing in someone
Feb 5, 2017, 4:13 PM
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Another name: Muller of Ill. St.! He is making that program into something. My first choice is Will Wade, second, Archie Miller and most importantly spend the funds needed to hire a great recruiter!!
Go Tigers!
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1) Will Wade- VCU or 2) Matt McCall- UTC***
Feb 5, 2017, 3:28 PM
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Re: 1) Will Wade- VCU or 2) Matt McCall- UTC***
Feb 5, 2017, 4:46 PM
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1) Pete Bell H.C. (western university-Los Angeles) great recruiter
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Randy Bennett???
Feb 5, 2017, 3:40 PM
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Maybe fam ready for move to east coast... who knows we got someone from Wyoming b4. Don't think he's coached anywhere else.
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Randy Bennett???
Feb 5, 2017, 3:40 PM
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Maybe fam ready for move to east coast... who knows we got someone from Wyoming b4. Don't think he's coached anywhere else.
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 3:47 PM
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And first off the "who could we get" talk is ridiculous. That's what people said when Bowden was the football head coach.
How'd that work out?
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Re: Who realistically could we get?
Feb 5, 2017, 3:48 PM
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Nah on a serious note because I have no clue but reading what others have posted Will Wade would get my vote.
No way we're 50 points worse than fla st. Guys get down and seems like they've cashed it in. Hard for bb to get the team back.
Just don't think it's all a talent issue.
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How about Dayton's Archie Miller?****
Feb 6, 2017, 8:37 PM
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STOP saying realistically!
Feb 6, 2017, 11:43 PM
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That implies that our job is inferior and that we can't afford or attract a great coach.
It's not just you, I see other posts suggesting that we go after a mid-major coach or assistant coach. Goodness, we can do so much better than that!
Assuming we want to be a good basketball program, and are willing to pay for a good coaching, we have no business asking who we can "realistically" get.
The only thing holding Clemson basketball back is Clemson.
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