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We need to stop calling the FFRF a watchdog group.
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We need to stop calling the FFRF a watchdog group.


Apr 18, 2014, 4:28 PM

They are a hate group. We need to refer to them that way. It is important to control the labels used in this discussion.

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Apr 18, 2014, 4:33 PM

agree! they are certainly a hate group made up of sick-O`s

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Apr 18, 2014, 4:36 PM

I heard that they were going to Ride their short bus down from WISCONSIN and wait on the players as they attempt to run down the hill. Oh no, wait a minute. That was The Gamecocks that were threatening to do that. I mean SCAR is not coming from WISCONSIN, but they are coming from Columbia on a short bus. :D

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They're not a hate group


Apr 18, 2014, 4:35 PM

But they're not a First Amendment watchdog group, either. They're a non- profit for militant atheists whose goal is making society more secularist. That means that, while they claim the imprimatur of the First Amendment, they have an idiosyncratic reading of it that accords with an agenda they'd probably have had if the First Amendment didn't exist. Their reading of the First Amendment isn't mainstream, thankfully, and you've usually got to have mainstream views to claim that you're a watchdog for anybody. Who'd want a watchdog that barks at things you don't want to be protected from?

This should be obvious from the fact that they call themselves the Freedom FROM Religion Foundation instead of the Freedom OF Religion Foundation. You should also realize that, as a marginal group, there was no reason for Clemson people to get so excited about this issue in the first place.

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Agreed


Apr 18, 2014, 4:38 PM

They have an agenda. More power to em for pursuing it.

But the reaction to their pokes is what will get them the attention and temporary relevancy they will need to further that agenda.

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I agree with your characterization of their views.


Apr 18, 2014, 4:43 PM [ in reply to They're not a hate group ]

But I would argue that their idiosyncratic interpretation of the constitution is motivated by hate. That makes them a hate group. The Klan has an idiosyncratic view of civil rights. The reason for their views is hate.

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Apr 18, 2014, 4:53 PM

In short, they are to religion as the Klan is to race....both groups, marginal or not, can take a flying leap.....

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I said that yesterday.


Apr 18, 2014, 5:30 PM

And got flamed.

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Apr 18, 2014, 5:57 PM

Need asbestos underwear....

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