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Letterman [259]
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We are penalized for close win vs UNC...
Nov 7, 2019, 11:14 AM
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UNC > South Carolina > Georgia.
Georgia was not penalized half as much for losing to South Carolina only one spot behind us. Our close win was to a team that beat the team that beat the 6th place team in the nation. This doesn’t seem considered. What gives?
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All-In [29036]
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One way to look at it
Nov 7, 2019, 11:22 AM
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I don't much worry about it right now, but I can see some logic in the rankings of UGA and Clemson.
UGA v USC and Clem v UNC were very similar games. Both UGA and Clemson under-performed, both opponents (USC and UNC) had a realistic single play shot at wining the game late. Likewise both teams (Clemson and UGA) had a multiple single play chances for it to never come to that (UGA's FG, our multiple 4th down non-stops on D). In the end we made the play (and UNC didn't) and UGA didn't make the play (and USC did).
So yes, wining matters and we are ahead of them. It matters a great deal and will always keep us ahead if we win out (I think there is a lack of consideration given to the distance being kept between us by the bump we'll see when we defeat the team they lost to).
There are teams that have a very legit gripe with these rankings (Baylor and Minnesota come to mind), but I don't much think being ranked behind the current top 4 (at this stage of the game) gives us much cause for complaint (again, at this point). No team with a loss is ahead of us, and as long as it stays that way, we're golden.
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UNC didn't have a one chance shot to win the game
Nov 7, 2019, 11:54 AM
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They had to score and then had to keep us from scoring with about 1 minute remaining.
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All-In [29036]
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That is true. I did overstate that point.***
Nov 7, 2019, 12:00 PM
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Re: That is true. I did overstate that point.***
Nov 7, 2019, 12:22 PM
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Plus, we ended up with more points than UNC and Ga. didn't..
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All-In [29036]
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Indeed, and I certainly pointed that out.
Nov 7, 2019, 12:24 PM
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We won and winning matters. It's why we are ahead of UGA.
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Legend [17786]
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That's ridiculous.
Nov 7, 2019, 12:21 PM
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Georgia is ahead of Utah, Oregon, and Oklahoma as the highest ranked 1 loss team because UGA has wins over #15 Notre Dame and #10 Florida. Utah, Oregon, and Oklahoma combined have 0 wins over the Top 25 teams.
Penn State has beaten #18 Iowa and #14 Michigan, so Clemson could have beaten UNC 71-20 and Penn State still deserves to be #4.
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Legend [15492]
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Re: That's ridiculous.
Nov 7, 2019, 12:24 PM
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I don't think that Bama has any wins over top 25 teams either. But they're Bama. They could show up with 6 guys and a mule and they'd put them in...
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CU Medallion [64517]
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Well...in fairness...
Nov 7, 2019, 1:03 PM
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Georgia rebounded by beating what many believe to be a pretty good Florida team.
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Re: Well...in fairness...
Nov 7, 2019, 1:54 PM
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And Iowa is rewarded along with the teams that have beaten them for 2 close losses: Penn St and Michigan! That is convoluted logic.
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CU Medallion [64517]
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It's clear...
Nov 7, 2019, 2:33 PM
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the CFP didn't apply the same logic across the board to everyone.
Iowa lost to the only decent teams they've faced and will likely lose two more before the regular season ends.
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Re: We are penalized for close win vs UNC...
Nov 7, 2019, 2:13 PM
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As a tiger, I am mad. When I try to be impartial, I see the point of the committee. If we are undefeated and left out, I will be irate. I see no way that happens. We need to quit playing junk games. Wofford should have been GSU or App State. We no longer can count on the coots beat downs to have any s.o.s. value.
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Re: We are penalized for close win vs UNC...
Nov 7, 2019, 2:13 PM
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As a tiger, I am mad. When I try to be impartial, I see the point of the committee. If we are undefeated and left out, I will be irate. I see no way that happens. We need to quit playing junk games. Wofford should have been GSU or App State. We no longer can count on the coots beat downs to have any s.o.s. value.
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CU Guru [1188]
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Re: We are penalized for close win vs UNC...
Nov 7, 2019, 2:14 PM
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You do have a firm grasp of the obvious.
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