Topic: Unfortunately for us, this new NCAA stance on kids making
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Unfortunately for us, this new NCAA stance on kids making

Posted: May 28, 2020 5:45 PM

money off social media endorsements, tweets, etc, will force Dabo to abandon our voluntary social media ban during the season. If not, it would put our kids at a huge monetary disadvantage. I don't think he would let that happen.

As another poaster said, this is going to be a huge advantage to the Texas schools (all that oil money), and the schools with huge individual donors (Oregon, Maryland, etc). Lube up your pistols boys, 'cause the Wild Wild West days of recruiting are coming back, and, as Doc Holliday said, "This time it's legal."

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Re: Unfortunately for us, this new NCAA stance on kids making

Posted: May 28, 2020 6:54 PM

The NCAA can do one of two things:

(1) Stay the old course and lose in legislatures, courts and maybe even Congress. The end result is CFB will end up being pillaged by the NFL as college b-ball is by the NBA. At worst, unelected and unaccountable judges/justices could impose solutions that completely nuke college athletics as we know them.

(2) Try something different.

It's obvious (2) is the only choice. Dangerous (possibly fatal) uncharted waters are a better option than knowingly going over Niagara Falls.

We live in a capitalistic country. Denying revenue generating athletes the right to generate income ain't gonna fly any more.

Please get over it. This is the year 2020, not 1960.

If it ends up schools in big cities, in big states or with big donors come out ahead, so be it. Realignment probably happens with a vengeance and we'll see what the new world order looks like.

Re: Unfortunately for us, this new NCAA stance on kids making

Posted: May 28, 2020 8:28 PM

It’s interesting to me that people are always on here saying the SEC schools and some of the others are buying recruits whenever we miss out on one. So what exactly is changing then if so many people already think players are being bought in the first place?

There is a simple step the NCAA could take.

Posted: May 29, 2020 12:05 AM

I've been proposing it for over 30 years.

Tie a scholarship directly to a degree.

John Doe signs a LOI. He counts against your total for either 6 years or until he graduates, whichever comes first.

Let coaches decide whether or not they want to recruit a kid who has no interest in college except as a quick side trip to the NBA or NFL.

The kids most likely to abuse the NIL rules are the kids who will not graduate.

Let Calipari and Coach K and Jimbo and Kirby and all those guys recruit kids who will nver graduate and see what kind of team they can field in three or 4 years.

Re: There is a simple step the NCAA could take.

Posted: May 29, 2020 12:39 AM

Interesting notion but there is a nil chance the major conferences would agree to this if the NCAA proposed the idea.

It's good to think outside the box but then realism rears its ugly head. Remember, the Power 5 conferences (and the courts) are the real powers behind college athletics.

Just another example

Posted: May 28, 2020 7:00 PM

...of “the man” looking for every way to hold “Lil ole Clemson” down.

Re: Unfortunately for us, this new NCAA stance on kids making

Posted: May 28, 2020 9:08 PM

Texas has Entitlement Disease, they’ll continue to be nobodies until they fix that and that is hard to fix.

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I really really HATE this entire idea.

Posted: May 28, 2020 9:09 PM

If a player is good enough to warrant the money, it will be there waiting for him at the proper time.

If they’re not good enough to get drafted, they probably aren’t going to make much money from this scheme anyway.

This is going to create more problems than it solves.

Re: I really really HATE this entire idea.

Posted: May 28, 2020 10:52 PM

It's the end of CFB as we know it, or have known it, i.e.: we "old school [people]". Soon it will also include the 4-5 star high school recruits... because, why not? It's what got them there in the first place. Soon they'll be letting CFB players go pro after one year, or maybe straight out of HS. And so much for "parity" in college sports.

Go Dabo, and Go Tigers!!!

Re: I really really HATE this entire idea.

Posted: May 29, 2020 12:33 AM

Proper time? Really?

There are two completely different issues here:

1. A player's revenue generating ability in college.

2. A player's NFL future.

Some guys that excel in college don't have much NFL potential. Their peak earnings time is while at school. Is it right to deny them this opportunity?

Regardless of what actions the NCAA takes, CFB is going to change as we know it. The status quo cannot stand.

The NCAA can either try to influence the outcome or they can let courts and legislatures take complete control.

Which Clemson player without NFL potential would have

Posted: May 29, 2020 9:57 AM

made any significant money from this scheme?

Not many ... if any.

Maybe a Ben Boulware makes a few thousand bucks because of his image in college.

Is that worth creating a seismic shift in the entire structure?

Maybe you think so. I absolutely do not. If you want to get paid early, don’t sign up for college ball.

I really, really hate this whole idea.


Posted: May 29, 2020 12:05 AM

When reading the article, I felt the same way at first...

Posted: May 29, 2020 6:44 AM

But then I got to the last paragraph which described an alternative that satisfies both parties, Dabo and the player.

In the early proposals of the NCAA plan, agents for specific services like social-media deals could be hired, which could possibly post items on social media for athletes in this situation.


Sorry about the multiple links in my post...

Posted: May 29, 2020 6:45 AM

Guess I'm still a newb at this.

The bigger public state schools like many in the B1G

Posted: May 29, 2020 10:12 AM

that have exponentially more alumni than others will also be at a significant advantage. Unless there is some mechanism in place of equal distribution then the days of a level playing field are over.

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One day, we will look back and conclude that this

Posted: May 29, 2020 10:36 AM

is when college football jumped the shark.

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Brad Brownell: all-time winningest coach in Clemson men's basketball history, and only coach to beat North Carolina in Chapel Hill.

Worse than that, Judge. I think they humped the shark

Posted: May 29, 2020 11:53 AM

nekked, just like Coach McElwain's dopelganger.

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what could happen

Posted: May 29, 2020 12:38 PM

a PR company (owned by boosters) could sign every player to use his likeness on ads, then have companies/boosters use those likenesses. Guarantee every player $10k/mo, would only cost for football just over 10mil/yr which is no big deal for boosters to come up with. Car dealers, shoe manuf, oil companies, etc etc.

Thus a kid signing would be guaranteed a nice income thru college. Stars might be in position to make more.

Re: what could happen

Posted: May 29, 2020 1:01 PM

This has been speculated about already. The real question is how it would be prohibited.

There wouldn't be a way to prohibit it, which is exactly why

Posted: May 29, 2020 2:23 PM

a school like Clemson with a relatively small fanbase will be at a huge disadvantage on the recruiting trail. If ONE Bill Gates type booster wanted to, he could outmoney everybody else, and essentially buy a championship for his school of choice. At least, that would work with players whose primary motivation is money. Which is a pretty good percentage, given the number of college stars who come out early for the NFL Draft.

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