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All-TigerNet [11161]
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So if the girl is too drunk to remember it's not rape?
Dec 6, 2013, 4:14 PM
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Anyone who has a daughter on here...how would you react if your daughter told you someone took advantage of them like that? I know they shouldn't be getting drunk or whatever, but somebody'd be getting an ### whipping.
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Her blood alcohol level was .04.
Dec 6, 2013, 4:18 PM
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Not to defend anyone in this deal, but that was what she tested out at later that night.
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Oculus Spirit [93605]
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4realz?
Dec 6, 2013, 5:00 PM
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Where did you read that, please sir?
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110%er [7657]
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Stated in presser, given the time difference from when
Dec 6, 2013, 10:55 PM
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tested it was estimated her B/A level was about .1 at the time of the incident. DUI is at .08. Still not memory impaired imo. But I am not the judge.
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Orange Blooded [3245]
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Guess we have to know
Dec 6, 2013, 4:19 PM
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That unless there is clear and damning evidence in a case this high profile there will be no charges.
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All-TigerNet [11161]
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Screw the charges, her family should deal with it.
Dec 6, 2013, 4:22 PM
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Maybe it's just me.
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Yep...there'd be a couple a well fed gators in a swamp
Dec 6, 2013, 4:26 PM
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if that was my daughter...
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On the flip side of that....
Dec 6, 2013, 4:26 PM
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How would you feel if you had a son that was accused of a heinous crime like rape that he didn't commit? If a sexual encounter occurred but it was a he said/she said scenario and it caused your son't name to get dragged through the mud?
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MVP [509]
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Exactly. Having daughters has nothing to do with it.
Dec 6, 2013, 4:33 PM
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I have three daughters, but I know there has to be evidence to be charged with a crime, and there is none in this case. This is one time the system seems to have worked.
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Re: Exactly. Having daughters has nothing to do with it.
Dec 6, 2013, 4:48 PM
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bet you would change your mind if one of your daughters told you she had been raped.
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Re: Exactly. Having daughters has nothing to do with it.
Dec 6, 2013, 4:49 PM
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What do you want pictures or just some kid to say sure I raped your daughter. Maybe the accuser's credibility was questioned I do not know her but I do know my daughter and he would have been Gator dinner a year ago.
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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but if she got drunk, and did something she was ashamed of,
Dec 6, 2013, 10:01 PM
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and was trying to cover it up, it was just as wrong. something is not jelling with her story or the state of florida WOULD HAVE prosecuted. the fact that they didn't tells you something was amiss.
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Re: On the flip side of that....
Dec 6, 2013, 6:29 PM
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What if he was a third string offensive tackle? Would she have been too drunk to remember his name without the 7 figure check?
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All-TigerNet [11161]
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When you leave your DNA in a drunk girls pants it's on you.
Dec 6, 2013, 6:54 PM
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Dang. Jameis does bring out the #######.
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With this definition of rape
Dec 6, 2013, 10:49 PM
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most of this message board would be considered rapist. As would most of the adult population.
I can't believe you honestly are arguing having sex with someone who has been drinking equals rape.
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I agree, requiring evidence for rape charges
Dec 6, 2013, 4:31 PM
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just sets the bar too high.
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Re: I agree, requiring evidence for rape charges
Dec 6, 2013, 4:33 PM
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yep..the he said/she said should be heard by a jury and let them decide. And not let a FSU grad/law school grad decide.
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All-In [39020]
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He said/she said = no evidence.
Dec 6, 2013, 4:34 PM
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DAs don't like taking cases they can't win.
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Re: He said/she said = no evidence.
Dec 6, 2013, 4:59 PM
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mainly because they don't want the embarrassement of losing....not caring about the victim. In my town, we had a solicitor like that..never took cases to court unless it was outright murder...and lost most of those.
I still say let a jury decide.....that is HER right
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All-In [39020]
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Actually it's the accused's right.
Dec 6, 2013, 5:29 PM
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And the lawyers don't want to waste their time.
You're being guided by emotion here. When the case consists entirely of the alleged victim's account, without corroborating evidence, the verdict SHOULD always be not guilty.
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Never here on T-Net. Nothing but dead serious discussions
Dec 6, 2013, 4:40 PM
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conducted in an almost reverent fashion.
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Oculus Spirit [96798]
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^^^ this guy
Dec 6, 2013, 4:47 PM
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gets it
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Re: I agree, requiring evidence for rape charges
Dec 6, 2013, 6:37 PM
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The Evidence was in her underwear. It was reported immediately. What did she have to gain by lying about it last December. You never heard him or his lawyer say it was consensual sex until the DNA came back matching his. If that would have been the case he should have been shouting that all along. Unfortunately those 2 are the one's that truly know.
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Re: I agree, requiring evidence for rape charges
Dec 6, 2013, 10:12 PM
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Along with someone else's "evidence". I can't help but think of this scene in Mel Brooks' "History of the World" -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6eTTaY1a6M
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All-TigerNet [11161]
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Easy Matlock, I'm saying I'd believe my daughter.
Dec 6, 2013, 6:50 PM
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If she said he did it and there was no justice due to lack of evidence I'd break his face.
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Yeah, women don't just tell lies like that.***
Dec 6, 2013, 9:57 PM
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All-TigerNet [11161]
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Yep and men don't take advantage of women.***
Dec 6, 2013, 10:37 PM
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The burden of proof rests on the state for a reason.
Dec 6, 2013, 10:43 PM
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Go get yourself thrown in jail if you wish. Seems ill-conceived to me.
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Orange Blooded [3968]
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On average...
Dec 6, 2013, 4:43 PM
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I'd say there are more conniving ##### out there than rapist...
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No contest.***
Dec 6, 2013, 5:30 PM
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Anyone who sleeps with a passed out drunk girl is trash.***
Dec 6, 2013, 7:03 PM
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I hope so!***
Dec 6, 2013, 4:44 PM
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Re: So if the girl is too drunk to remember it's not rape?
Dec 6, 2013, 4:57 PM
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I would be just as upset if my son was falsely accused. From the lack of evidence in this case, my gut tells me it was consensual. I have no way of knowing for sure just like the rest of you. The Duke Lacrosse "rape" case comes to mind.
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So you would have no problem with your son
Dec 6, 2013, 10:11 PM
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banging some girl that is passed out drunk. I guess she didn't say no, right?
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Evidence she was passed out?***
Dec 6, 2013, 10:50 PM
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These are really the worst circumstances
Dec 6, 2013, 5:03 PM
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Because there is no way to know what truly happened.
It's very unfortunate if she was rapes and it is equally as unfortunate to ruin his reputation if it was consensual.
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rape or no, he apparently did something so heinous to her --
Dec 6, 2013, 6:04 PM
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IN HER MIND - that she went to the police and to the hospital, and claimed all these charges.
What in the world happened? We will probably never know.
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maybe he .... no ...I think better of that comment.***
Dec 6, 2013, 6:23 PM
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Re: So if the girl is too drunk to remember it's not rape?
Dec 6, 2013, 6:24 PM
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Her lapse in memory just made her a millionaire! She is fixed for life!
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Re: So if the girl is too drunk to remember it's not rape?
Dec 6, 2013, 7:09 PM
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Her BAC was over .10 at the time of the incident....Who knows what happened ultimately but it probably wasn't a publicity stunt....So with that said, it had to have been inappropriate conduct of some sort or buyer's remorse.
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She said she was raped. He said he didn't and he has
Dec 6, 2013, 10:15 PM
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a pervy buddy that knows this because he peeked through the door and watched it all go down. Too bad the girl didn't have an equally pervy buddy with her to tell her side of what happened. In the end, yet another he said she said where someone is going to have to live with their actions for the rest of their lives.
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Orange Blooded [2762]
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The police report said she described him as 5 9- 5 11. Not
Dec 6, 2013, 10:34 PM
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only was not needed if the argument was "date rape" but he is 6 4 and Fameis you know. 10 month delay was for a reason and apparently its because there was no merit to the accusation. My 2 cents and I owe u change
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Typical 2013 society
Dec 6, 2013, 10:46 PM
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Guilty until proven innocent. What if that was your son's name dragged through the mud, no stink made until he was famous, she was drunk, had multiple boyfriends/sexual encounters, false description, no sign of force.
Someone clue me in or is this just societal stigma?
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Orange Blooded [2762]
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AND at such a timely point in his life. It never made the
Dec 6, 2013, 10:49 PM
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flow chart of logic to me from the start.
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110%er [5912]
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Civil Suit?
Dec 6, 2013, 10:54 PM
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Ask OJ.
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