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Heisman Winner [139821]
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Clemson dominance is for real. Here's proof.
Dec 30, 2012, 9:02 AM
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65-41-4
Can't argue with facts.
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wow
Dec 30, 2012, 9:07 AM
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..just sounds desperate. Past dominance vs present dominance ? Move on with this lame "my feelings are hurt" mentality.
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Re: wow
Dec 30, 2012, 9:12 AM
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DABOS record in big games and against coots speaks for itself he is NOT getting it done!
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Orange Blooded [2481]
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I'm with you...
Dec 30, 2012, 12:19 PM
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and have been HARD on Swinney myself. But the fact is..
the program "IS" finally moving forward. And sure,there
are some obsticales(sp) to cross,namely beating SC.But
facts are facts....I myself have to give him alil more
time.
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CU Medallion [51520]
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Beating crappy teams is not moving forward. We played 3 real
Dec 30, 2012, 1:43 PM
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teams this year (FSU, NC State, USuC) and lost 2 of them.
He's about to lose another one.
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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LOL!! I'm sure Dabo will sleep better tonight.***
Dec 30, 2012, 11:30 PM
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CU Medallion [51520]
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But people love him.***
Dec 30, 2012, 1:42 PM
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Heisman Winner [139821]
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Re: wow
Dec 30, 2012, 9:14 AM
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Ahhh, the luxury of cherry picking. Only select the sweetest fruit, and ignore the bitter.
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110%er [7191]
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Re: Clemson dominance is for real. Here's proof.
Dec 30, 2012, 9:10 AM
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1-4 and 4 in a row are facts as well.
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Re: Clemson dominance is for real. Here's proof.
Dec 30, 2012, 10:48 AM
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When has Clemson faced a USC team that finished with a ranking at #22, #9, #10 three years in a row? I'm all for winning big games (and I think we are fixing the puzzle one piece at a time and we will get there) but let's face reality...USC has never been this consistently good.
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Re: Clemson dominance is for real. Here's proof.
Dec 30, 2012, 11:01 AM
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And we have never been so consistently outclassed and outcoached in games against top 30 competition. Please Tigers, make me eat crow and apologize on New Year's Day! Unfortunately, being a realist, I'm not holding my breath.
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Do us a favor and try- the breath thing, like 10 minutes.***
Dec 30, 2012, 11:38 AM
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We haven't been remotely competative in the past 4 games.
Dec 30, 2012, 1:44 PM
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2009 the game was over in the 2nd quarter
2010 the game was over in the 2nd quarter
2011 the game was over in the 3rd quarter
2012 the game was over at halftime
Thanks Dabo.
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CU Guru [1103]
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You're pathetic.***
Dec 30, 2012, 1:51 PM
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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But consistent.***
Dec 30, 2012, 11:36 PM
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CU Guru [1321]
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Yes, a game you LEAD 14-10 at the half is over at that point
Dec 30, 2012, 2:48 PM
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and the other team is the victor. Do you even read the tripe you post? The game wasn't over till Carolina put it away in the 4th.
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he's angry and has a right to be. he has 2 full time jobs,
Dec 30, 2012, 3:18 PM
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a car loan and a 4 game losing streak in college football to fans he hates.
hell, i wouldn't be shocked if his dog has left him.
he comes here to ##### about it; what's the problem?
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110%er [9045]
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You're right - you can't argue with facts - the fact is ....
Dec 30, 2012, 11:26 AM
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that we've lost four in a row to them - that's all that matters now - overall historical record isn't what's important.
Until we beat them again, we can't talk about records.
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Orange Blooded [2481]
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MAJOR RIVALRY COMPARISON***
Dec 30, 2012, 11:31 AM
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Orange Blooded [2481]
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DERN IT!!! (follow up)
Dec 30, 2012, 11:50 AM
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I posted that before I meant to!!-
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Heres comparing ours with USuck, to some of the other major rivals in the country.
-Florida leads FSU 34-21-2
-Notre Dame Leads So Cal 44-35-5
-Michigan leads OSU 58-44-6
-Bama leads Auburn 42-34-1
-Texas leads OU 59-43-5
-Bama leads Tenn 49-38-7
-Georgia leads Fla 48-40-2
-SCal leads UCLA 46-29-7
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Re: DERN IT!!! (follow up)
Dec 30, 2012, 12:35 PM
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Florida's winning percentage over FSU (.59) is identical to Clemson vs USC (.59).
Would you say Florida has dominated that series? I wouldn't.
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Heisman Winner [108389]
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fsu was a girl's school until 1950ish.
Dec 30, 2012, 1:11 PM
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bbb[b4bobbybowden] uf led series 16-3-1
abb 1976-present even h2h record with both owning conference and national titles.
1976-present cu over scar 24-12-1, national championship, numerous conf titles and bowl wins.
fsu/uf have played 50ish fewer games.
if cu's win % against scar was ~ .59 and only 10 games had been played you might have something.
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Re: fsu was a girl's school until 1950ish.
Dec 30, 2012, 1:24 PM
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What you have is a .59 winning percentage and only at Clemson is that considered "dominant."
The Clemson/SC winning percentage is within 5-7% of every other rivalry that was mentioned. But facts are facts.
Using your argument (FSU was a girls school prior to the 50's), I find it funny that you didn't mention that SC wasn't in a conference (therefore unable to win conf championships) for over 20 years of the modern era.
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Heisman Winner [108389]
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2 games is not dominant, 20+ is dominant and only a scar
Dec 30, 2012, 1:32 PM
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fan would think differently.
throw in bowl victories, national title, conference championships and you're lil program has a nice 4 game win streak, but that's it baby brother.
gratz.
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Re: 2 games is not dominant, 20+ is dominant and only a scar
Dec 30, 2012, 1:40 PM
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Y'all also forget to mention the game was played in Columbia for something like the first 50 years. I can only dream what the overall record would be if Clemson got equal home games.
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You seem to be having trouble with the facts.
Dec 30, 2012, 1:36 PM
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FACT: Clemson owns one of the most decisive rivalry advantages in the entire country.
Period.
Your twisted rationalizations fall short and do nothing to lessen that FACT.
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***Then so does Florida
Dec 30, 2012, 1:49 PM
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Fifty Nine percent. If that is domination in your world, so be it.
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If that makes you feel better about the FACTS, then have at
Dec 30, 2012, 1:50 PM
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it.
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Of the top 50 college football rivalries, here are the ones
Dec 30, 2012, 2:10 PM
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with an equal/ greater than .59 according to Bleacher Report.
And there were many, many more in the .55-57 range.
Clemson/FSU
Clemson/Ga Tech
Ole Miss/MSU
Utah/Utah State
Wash/Wash State
Col/Col State
Iowa/Iowa State
Kansas/K State
USC/UCLA
OK/Okie State
Georgia/Georgia Tech
BYU/Utah
Arkansas/LSU
Tex/Tex A&M
FL/FSU
Tex A&M/Arkansas
Pitt/WVU
Texas/OK
LOL at "one of the most dominating rivalries."
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Re: Of the top 50 college football rivalries, here are the ones
Dec 30, 2012, 2:18 PM
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The overall record is not that dominating, it's the recent history of the rivalry that is the most dominating. We had won like 30 of the last 40 before the current win streak started. That my friend is dominating. You went 40 years without winning in consecutive years.
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I love how the arguments change as facts are entered
Dec 30, 2012, 2:23 PM
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into the discussion. Well, uh oh, "I just meant we dominated in these specific years."
Average winning % in top 50 rivalries is .577. Clemson's is .59.
In a Clemson world, 1% above average is DOMINATION!!!
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CU Guru [1103]
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The argument hasn't changed at all. That, plus you don't
Dec 30, 2012, 2:28 PM
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seem to be able to perform nor comprehend simple arithmetic.
It's hard to call your desperation 'facts' when you can't even handle simple math.
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CU Guru [1103]
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Math is not your strongsuit huh?
Dec 30, 2012, 2:26 PM
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A) Several of the rivalries you listed as equal to or better than 0.590 are actually less than 0.590. Let me guess, you have a degree from SCarolina huh?
B) You want to count rivalries with a lesser degree of dominance just because you want to perceive them as similar? That's desperate and does nothing to change the facts.
C) Utah/Utah State, just for example...really? You want to include that as a major rivalry? Really??
Again, Clemson over SCarolina is one of the most dominated major rivalries in the country.
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Top 50 average rivalry WP- .577; Clemson's .59
Dec 30, 2012, 2:32 PM
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That extra percent = DOMINATION. And quit crying about the other rivalries, they were chosen by a non biased (Bleacher Rpt) publication.
More for you...
LSU-Bama is not a rivalry (Bama .643 win%)
Florida / Fl State is not a rivalry (Florida .590)
Backyard Brawl is not a rivalry (Pitt leads WV .587)
UNC / Duke (T-holes .592)
UGA / Ga Tech (UGA .585)
Utah / BYU (Utah .596)
Paul Bunyon Trophy (Wisc .585)
Clemson / USC .59
GT / Clemson (GT .641)
Wash / Wash St (UW .644)
Mich / Mich St (Mich .648)
Iowa / Iowa State (Iowa .650)
Oaken Bucket (Indiana win% vs. Purdue .623)
Texas / Texas A&M (UT .644 win%)
Oklahoma leads Ok St (.774)
Fl State / Clemson (FSU .692)
UGA / SC (UGA .708)
UK / Louisville (UK .682)
UT / UK (UT .690)
ND / Navy (ND .845)
Colorado / Colorado St ( Colorado .735)
Texas / Texas Tech (UT .765)
UGA / Clemson (UGA .707)
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65-41-4 is a quarter century of domination in a game played
Dec 30, 2012, 2:38 PM
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once a year for 110 years.
take the sting out any way you like, it's laughable this was a home game scar for the first half of the series.
how's that 1969 banner holding up?
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CU Guru [1103]
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Well I just checked the first one on your list.
Dec 30, 2012, 2:45 PM
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Your math is incorrect. Please learn how to calculate winning percentages before you type anything else.
Secondly, I'm not crying about Utah/Utah State being considered a major rivalry. I'm simply pointing out the fact that knowledgeable (i.e. non-desperate) fans would consider those two teams as secondary or even lower tier rivalries. Glad including them makes you feel better about being dominated though.
Thirdly, again, 55-57% is less than 59%. Pretty simple stuff here, at least for the decently educated.
And fourthly, we actually own a 0.594 advantage. Please stop disregarding 4 when you're including 3 digits for the other series.
So, again, a 59.4)% winning percentage in a major rivalry is one of the most dominated series in the country.
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The first one on my list is Clemson/FSU
Dec 30, 2012, 2:53 PM
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And they own a .69 winning percentage vs Clemson. Last I checked, .69 is greater than .59.
And you'll have to excuse me if I don't take pointers from a guy who starts off a sentence with "Thirdly."
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Uh you do realize "thirdly" is a word, and that it's
Dec 30, 2012, 11:51 PM
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perfectly acceptable to use that word to start a sentence.
And you'll have to excuse me if I don't take pointers from a guy who stated that Bleacher Report articles are written by non-biased sources.
Please, for the love of all that is holy and mighty in this world, stop posting on a CLEMSON message board.
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Re: Uh you do realize "thirdly" is a word, and that it's
Jan 2, 2013, 10:07 PM
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"If history means so little to the coots, shouldnt it just be that they won the last one? Who cares about any other year because thats 'history.' "
It's referred to as "consecutive wins, pinhead. But if it makes you happy: We whipped your a** this year . . . (again).
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Bye Bye***
Jan 2, 2013, 10:10 PM
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Re: Of the top 50 college football rivalries, here are the ones
Dec 30, 2012, 2:32 PM
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Hey Bleacher boy where did the ##### rank in the power ranking of the top 50 programs of all time. let me answer that for you NO WHERE your in state rival 26. LOL
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Clemson isn't in the top 25?
Dec 30, 2012, 2:41 PM
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Color me shocked, I always read on here what an elite program it is.
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CU Guru [1103]
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LOL. Your desperatiojn is showing.
Dec 30, 2012, 2:46 PM
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You wear it well.
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Re: Clemson isn't in the top 25?
Dec 30, 2012, 2:45 PM
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Clemson is elite and don't let anyone tell you different. A legend in their on minds.
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CU Guru [1103]
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We've been amonsgt the elite, but no, we're not currently
Dec 30, 2012, 2:47 PM
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elite. Who has tried to make that claim?
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70 years
Dec 30, 2012, 2:54 PM
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1st 70 yrs played in Columbia with the fans partying and yelling and keeping the Clemson players up all night and the Clemson boys still ate their lunch and took their women. Can only imagine what it would be if it were fairly done.
I would like to see Carolina's winning percentage against all teams they've played. Since they've just recently crossed over 50% all time I think it would be interesting
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Stop arguing- South Carolina isn't even Clemson's biggest
Dec 30, 2012, 3:01 PM
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rival. Heck, even Dabo says his kids grandkids won't live to see this a rivalry. And his team's recent performance proves it.
Clemson's biggest rivals are:
UGA: 17-41-4 (.30)
FSU: 8-18 (.30)
Ga Tech: 26-50-2 (.34)
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Ah - The Overall Won-Loss Record Argument
Dec 30, 2012, 9:01 PM
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The cry of the truly desperate and recently defeated. Carolina is making history and you're talking about it. As soon as what happened years ago has any affect on what's happening now, then forget about it. It's not pertinent.
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Re: Re: Clemson dominance is for real. Here's proof.
Dec 30, 2012, 9:12 PM
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If history means so little to the coots, shouldnt it just be that they won the last one? Who cares about any other year because thats "history."
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Re: Stop arguing- South Carolina isn't even Clemson's biggest
Dec 30, 2012, 10:27 PM
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South Carolina vs those same teams:
FSU: 3-16 (.1579)
UGA:16-46-2 (.25)
GT: 9-12 (.4286)
Numbers, numbers, and more numbers.
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Thread was about DOMINATION in RIVALRY games...
Dec 30, 2012, 10:57 PM
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Please try to stay on topic. TIA.
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Re: Clemson dominance is for real. Here's proof.
Jan 2, 2013, 10:12 PM
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You got a time machine for Christmas - Good for you...The bottom line is that you haven't beaten SC since the Bush Administration.
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