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Standout [327]
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Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 8:53 AM
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After seeing the way we punched OSU Friday how did that team lose to the coots, mean I know how but really what happened. I bleed orange but don't think I'm being biased by saying I really feel we were better this season than them.
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Oculus Spirit [96799]
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6 turnovers. That's about it.***
Jan 7, 2014, 8:54 AM
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Legend [16226]
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Unfortunately TO's have a lot to do with a frame of mind.
Jan 7, 2014, 10:14 AM
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They don't just happen on their own in isolation, independent of other circumstances, at least .not to the extent we experienced in that game. I believe there was a "determination" advantage that we lacked in November that I would like to see us take hold of again the next time we play.
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6 turnovers for anybody will kill any chances.***
Jan 7, 2014, 8:54 AM
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CU Medallion [64517]
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Yup...we only punted three times....
Jan 7, 2014, 8:58 AM
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Clemson stopped itself with turnovers more than the $CU defense did.
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Ohio State's defense sucks
Jan 7, 2014, 8:55 AM
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I really think they will fire their Def Coordinator.
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Orange Blooded [2198]
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Re: Ohio State's defense sucks
Jan 7, 2014, 8:58 AM
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Fickle should be out. Too much talent to not be elite.
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All-In [26968]
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I know one thing...it is definitely NOT that S. Carolina
Jan 7, 2014, 8:55 AM
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Was a good team. That's impossible.
At home, Clemson probably would have beat them.
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Orange Blooded [3921]
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good point***
Jan 7, 2014, 8:55 AM
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Follower [251]
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Connor Shaw is why we lost
Jan 7, 2014, 8:56 AM
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Not the most gifted QB around, but he rarely makes a mistake. Our QB made a ton of mistakes.
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Expert [1376]
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Conner was good, cockstripe, but he's not the reason we lost
Jan 7, 2014, 8:59 AM
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6 turnovers, including two lost punts (complete possessions), were CLEARLY the primary reason.
Please stop using words like "we"...it exposes your issues.
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Re: Conner was good, cockstripe, but he's not the reason we lost
Jan 7, 2014, 10:10 AM
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And of course, the Tigers shouldn't get credit for a win in the Orange Bowl, because the Buckeyes just "gave it away" with 4 turnovers...OSU was obviously the better team, according to "Tiger logic"! You can't have it both ways, can you? LOL!
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Expert [1376]
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Are you trying to be serious, cockstripe?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:14 AM
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For one, Clemson turned the ball over twice against Ohio State, and one of those was while going in for a score. That's a net difference of two turnovers.
Two, yes, the turnovers were part of it.
Three, 6 turnovers to none is just a tad different than a net difference of 2. Even a non-educated coot poser can do that math.
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Re: Are you trying to be serious, cockstripe?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:21 AM
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Yes, and even a "non-educated coot poser" can see what the rest of the nation (excepting Pickens County, naturally) clearly sees...that South Carolina now has a better football program than Clemson! Ya can't begin to change things for the better, Shanie, until you can face the reality of the situation.
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Tell 'em coot
Jan 7, 2014, 10:56 AM
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sad
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CU Guru [1038]
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6 TO's***
Jan 7, 2014, 8:57 AM
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 8:59 AM
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Had them at home last year and couldn't beat them
Face it they were good beat more ranked teams than anyone in the country
Had the chance just like they did and they made it happen,
Have another shot at home next year!The biggest issue is the best Clemson teams in a long time are having to deal with the best FSU teams in a long time and the best USC teams ever. OSU couldnt shake at stick at either of those teams
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 8:59 AM
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Spurrier out coached us. 6 TO.
Sc D is still better than ours and SC O plays ball control and still scores a lot.
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Orange Blooded [4693]
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Tnet dumpers constant criticism of the team had the players wound too tight***
Jan 7, 2014, 8:59 AM
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All-TigerNet [14921]
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This was the first year during the streak I can
Jan 7, 2014, 9:00 AM
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confidently say I think we were a better team but obviously no one can win coughing up the ball 6 times.
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Orange Blooded [2584]
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CootS did not beat us, we beat ourselves.
Jan 7, 2014, 9:05 AM
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We did not lose to a unranked losing record Tennessee.
Oky should be ahead of them. Beat the $ec king Alabama.
We did beat a 7th ranked team not 19th ranked team.
$car should have not move up 5 spots maybe 1 or 2.
They would not beat Alabama.
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uh....6 turnovers?***
Jan 7, 2014, 9:06 AM
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Some of you sound like a bunch of sec fans...
Jan 7, 2014, 9:22 AM
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The bottom line is we lost. On that particular day, our team didn't do what it needed to do to win.
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Re: Some of you sound like a bunch of sec fans...
Jan 7, 2014, 10:04 AM
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That's what I was thinking, or like Coot fans from years past. CLEMSON LOST. "WE" didn't give them anything, they TOOK IT! Same as when we intercept or cause a fumble, WE TOOK IT!
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Re: Untimely Mistakes***
Jan 7, 2014, 9:24 AM
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Connor Shaw******
Jan 7, 2014, 9:39 AM
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Clemson beat Clemson***
Jan 7, 2014, 9:42 AM
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Yep. We were 11-1, 12-1 with the bowl.***
Jan 7, 2014, 9:56 AM
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 9:58 AM
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Got beat by a better team.
Our QB was clutch...
Yours was not.
Our coach > your coach
If you disagree with me...just sort threads by date and you will see a lot of Clemson fans wishing Tajh was gone and Dabo would be fired.
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Expert [1376]
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"better team"...
Jan 7, 2014, 10:00 AM
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Really had NOTHING to do with 6 turnovers.
There was no real evidence the better team won.
With 6 turnovers, would you have won? No way.
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Re: "better team"...
Jan 7, 2014, 10:04 AM
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When was the last time Clemson won the turnover battle against USC?
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Expert [1376]
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I think it's something like 15-3 in the last 4 games, but
Jan 7, 2014, 10:10 AM
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that doesn't matter in terms of the 6 turnovers in 2013.
Again, do you really think you win with 6 turnovers? I think you get blown out.
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Re: "better team"...
Jan 7, 2014, 11:32 AM
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funny, South Carolina managed not to turn the ball over 6 times...better teams generally find ways to hold on to the ball
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Orange Blooded [3590]
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We lost the TO's 5 yrs in a row. That excuse is getting old.***
Jan 7, 2014, 10:01 AM
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Clemson beat Clemson this year. In 2010-2012 USuC was
Jan 7, 2014, 10:07 AM
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the better team.
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Orange Blooded [4787]
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imo, this was the 2nd consecutive season we had the better
Jan 7, 2014, 10:20 AM
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team. the 1st three games of this streak, they had the better team, we just had some better individual skill players.
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Our D was a work in progress last year. It came together in
Jan 7, 2014, 10:35 AM
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LSU win.
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If you cannot forget about it, ( I can't) at least
Jan 7, 2014, 10:10 AM
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STOP talking about it....Geeeeeezzzz
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You will see this thread FIVE THOUSAND TWO HUNDRED
Jan 7, 2014, 11:29 AM
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and THIRTY SEVEN more times between now and next November. The correct answer will always be SIX TURNOVERS!!
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Let me help you guys with this...
Jan 7, 2014, 10:19 AM
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C0cks scored more points than Clemson. Clemson did not give the game away. That is just a stupid excuse. Both teams were on the field that day and the c0cks made fewer mistakes and won the game.
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:20 AM
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Better team won. A QB who doesn't panic and give up stupid turnovers helps too.
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:22 AM
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poorly prepared..and scared QB...it's that simple
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Turnovers and a trick play.***
Jan 7, 2014, 10:28 AM
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Re: Turnovers and a trick play.***
Jan 7, 2014, 11:18 AM
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Our trick play was a turnover.
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Oculus Spirit [83000]
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4 turnovers killed us...last two didn't matter. Plus,
Jan 7, 2014, 10:36 AM
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Carolina is better than Ohio St. and Shaw is better than Miller.
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:46 AM
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Clemson played tight in two games. They lost those two games. Clemson had more talent than South Carolina this year. Tight players make mistakes. Mistakes are tough to overcome against good teams.
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:53 AM
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This post brought out the coot intruders didn't it, but those who say Clemson DIDNT best themselves is delusional. We were more elite this year period. Watch not every turnover but almost all of them were not caused ny thier defense but our offense playing poorly.
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:58 AM
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Which in either way proves SC was better. Geez. Until we grasp the fact that those things are part of being better. We stand to repeat it over, and over.
I say man up and fix those problems to become a better team.
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:51 AM
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who did clemson beat this year other than over rated GA. and O.ST.....
Carolina beat 2 BCS bowl winners and the cotton bowl winner as well as other bowl winners.
We are #4 in the nation ...clemson is #8.
By the way we beat you on the field ( 5 in a row with double digits )
Only clemson kool-aid logic can make a statement that clemson is better than Carolina....ya think !!!!
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:55 AM
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You did not beat the Mizzou team that played Auburn, you list to the same "overrated" team we beat.. And you lost to TN, Vandy, KY, and FL all almost had you too
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Re: Thoughts? How did we lose to Usuck?
Jan 7, 2014, 10:56 AM
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Sorry typing errors, you almost lost to those teams and lost to that GA team
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Turnovers
Jan 7, 2014, 10:59 AM
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Great teams don't turn the ball over 6 times against anyone. Great quarterbacks don't buckle under pressure constantly.
Clem lost again because they were the team committing the turnovers, while the Gamecocks were the team forcing the turnovers. You can't say "if we didn't have the turnovers.."
It's part of Clemson's DNA as a football team to choke against the Gamecocks... Just gotta beat us to change that perception.
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It's hard to score when you hand the other team the ball
Jan 7, 2014, 11:21 AM
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every chance you get.
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Think about it. What if Humphries had fumbled the 2 punts
Jan 7, 2014, 11:24 AM
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he fielded against OSU? We would have lost to them by a TD (or more). Turnovers are hard to overcome.
SC took care of the ball and we didn't.
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Scoring fewer points than they.
Jan 7, 2014, 11:27 AM
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Credible and in-depth analysis.
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