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All-In [46816]
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Living in La La land in this country
Sep 2, 2020, 4:05 PM
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actively in a depression but the stock market is at an all time high.
Makes 0 sense.
Hopefully it stays up so all of these young boomers can retire. There are millions of people out of work and need that job.
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Heisman Winner [119692]
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THERE YOU GO!
Sep 2, 2020, 4:07 PM
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Showing that immense knowledge again!
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All-In [46816]
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Don't take my word for it look at the numbers
Sep 2, 2020, 4:13 PM
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https://www.bea.gov/index.php/news/glancePerspective from the BEA Accounts
BEA produces some of the most closely watched economic statistics that influence decisions of government officials, business people, and individuals. These statistics provide a comprehensive, up-to-date picture of the U.S. economy. The data on this page are drawn from featured BEA economic accounts.
U.S. Economy at a Glance Table
We are absolutely in a recession based on the last 2 qtrs. Unless Trump becomes a leader (lulz) in the next few months economists will start saying we are in a depression.
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Heisman Winner [119692]
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LOL! Economy bottomed in April.
Sep 2, 2020, 4:27 PM
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Have you not seen the economic activity data the last 2 months? And the forecasts going forward?
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Lot o points [155820]
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Yup, rumor has it NEBR declaring recession over soon.***
Sep 2, 2020, 4:42 PM
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All-TigerNet [13605]
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Re: LOL! Economy bottomed in April.
Sep 2, 2020, 4:43 PM
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I got to agree with you.
And add that if ALL states would open completely back up, the economy would be awesome.
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All-In [38514]
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Most who are out of work don't work for publicly traded
Sep 2, 2020, 4:20 PM
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companies. And those that did were furloughed in order for those companies to continue to make profits. It's really not surprising and it also illustrates that the stock market and the economy are not necesarily the same thing.
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Oculus Spirit [97708]
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We got this. Nothing to worry about.
Sep 2, 2020, 4:24 PM
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Except 5% inflation.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Wut?
Sep 2, 2020, 4:31 PM
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Oculus Spirit [97708]
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The lower our rates go, the less headroom we have for
Sep 3, 2020, 9:02 AM
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inflation. Better hope it stays low. But I know my groceries are up 20% and so is tobacco. But with our current debt load, there are easily 7-8 different times in the 1900's that would have caused an economic collapse with today's debt levels. Just let that sink in. 1982 inflation and we have a total economic collapse.
And the traditional tools we've used to hedge against inflation to issue cheaper debt are running dry. Illegal immigration and "free" trade.
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Lot o points [155820]
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Read something the other day that either I had forgotten
Sep 2, 2020, 4:47 PM
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or never knew....
I don't think we are at 1:1 yet with debt vs annual GDP (getting close), but post WW2 it was 108%. Within a decade it was closer to 50%.
Obviously we won't get anywhere near post-war levels of GDP growth again, but it certainly shows the importance of GDP in whether we could withstand that level of inflation. It wouldn't be good, but it isn't necessarily a death sentence either.
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Rock Defender [53]
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This guy must have read the same thing
Sep 2, 2020, 5:08 PM
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Lot o points [155820]
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It could have been that article, but with the Post
Sep 2, 2020, 5:12 PM
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usually I just go straight to wiping and don't stop to read.
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110%er [7207]
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This has been an issue for a few years now.
Sep 2, 2020, 4:57 PM
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Everyone either doesn't care or is just riding the wave.
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All-TigerNet [11628]
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Follow the foreign money.
Sep 2, 2020, 5:07 PM
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The US is still the best economy to invest in.
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Orange Blooded [2692]
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Re: Living in La La land in this country
Sep 2, 2020, 8:12 PM
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What’s the unemployment rate? How much cash on hand does the “average” American have? What’s the average debt load? Where’s the average corporate debt to income ratio? What’s the non-farm payroll slope looking like?
Stock market moves seem irrelevant to me as a qualitative measure of economic health since it is primarily driven by a handful of tech companies. It has little relationship with the tens of thousands of small businesses that actually do the most hiring.
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Orange Blooded [2692]
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Non farm payroll chart says it all
Sep 2, 2020, 8:13 PM
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https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/non-farm-payrollsThe US economy added 1.76 million jobs in July 2020, easing from a record 4.8 million in the previous month, as a resurgence in COVID-19 cases hit the labor market recovery. Still, the reading beat market expectations of a 1.6 million increase with employment in leisure and hospitality increasing by 592 thousand and accounting for about one-third of the gain, and with government employment rising by 301 thousand. Typically, public-sector education employment falls in July, but declines occurred earlier than usual this year due to the pandemic, resulting in unusually large increases in local government education (+215 thousand) and state government education (+30 thousand). Also, a 27 thousand advance in federal government employment reflected the hiring of temporary workers for the 2020 Census. Increases were also seen in retail trade, professional and business services, other services, and health care. Nonfarm employment remained 12.9 million below their pre pandemic-level. Non Farm Payrolls in the United States averaged 112.13 Thousand from 1939 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 4791 Thousand in June of 2020 and a record low of -20787 Thousand in April of 2020. This page provides the latest reported value for - United States Non Farm Payrolls - plus previous releases, historical high and low, short-term forecast and long-term prediction, economic calendar, survey consensus and news.
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