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Orange Blooded [4559]
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LOVE Dabo Sweeney! This was a team drug test
Dec 30, 2015, 9:01 AM
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I'm dang proud he's our coach. So many coaches would've swept this under the rug.
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Seems unnecessary.
Dec 30, 2015, 9:02 AM
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Why don't we keep the playing field level. None of the other CFP teams did that.
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Legend [18663]
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Dabo obviously got wind of this indiscretion.***
Dec 30, 2015, 9:04 AM
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why were they smoking up wind from him?***
Dec 30, 2015, 9:08 AM
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Orange Blooded [3528]
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youthful mistake***
Dec 30, 2015, 9:10 AM
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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I love when guys like you 2nd guess the Coach
Dec 30, 2015, 9:14 AM
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in what's best for this program.
As if anyone in this fan base even has the smallest of ethical reason to do so....
I think with what Mr. Swinney has accomplished at Clemson - both on and off the field -
that so long as he's within the bounds of common decency
he deserves to be simply "assumed" to be correct in his methods.
You may have the right to question him -
that doesn't make it "right" though.
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CU Medallion [51531]
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I just want an even playing field.***
Dec 30, 2015, 9:18 AM
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Orange Blooded [3820]
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and that's why you shouldn't question Swinney at all -
Dec 30, 2015, 12:34 PM
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you can't even understand how he does "even out the playing field" - i.e. it's in the culture.
But again, just because you and none of your liberal friends can understand it, doesn't mean it doesn't work.
The results should be self-evident, and they're positive to more than simply football wins. And any number of additional wins in football that you think might be gained by a different culture are simply in your head. They're mirages at best.
The day that fans who agree with you somehow become the "culture" at Clemson
is the day I stop pulling for Clemson.
Reconcile that any way you wish.
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Re: and that's why you shouldn't question Swinney at all -
Dec 30, 2015, 1:41 PM
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Do you have any evidence the other teams have covered up drug tests?
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Great question!
Dec 30, 2015, 2:28 PM
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On the other hand, what if a player was given steroids that were not prescribed to him? Would that show up on a drug test if given? And if so would the team/coach/administration sweep it under the rug until the NCAA came calling?
Just curious
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Re: Seems unnecessary.
Dec 30, 2015, 9:17 AM
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I agree to a certain extent but then again it's better to cover our own a$$' than have the ncaa drug test them
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Let me know when Oklahoma, Michigan State,
Dec 30, 2015, 9:19 AM
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and Alabama have drug tests.
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Re: Let me know when Oklahoma, Michigan State,
Dec 30, 2015, 9:28 AM
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Dude I said I agree with you at least for the most part I'm just trying to find some silver lining in all this and for me that's at least this way Clemson can handle this internally instead of the ncaa getting involved
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Re: Let me know when Oklahoma, Michigan State,
Dec 30, 2015, 9:33 AM
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Most college athletes smoke weed. It's ignorant to think otherwise. I love dabo swinney. That said, if he really did decide to do a random drug test on his own, then that is just incredibly stupid. It's hurting us in the playoff and it could potentially hurt recruiting. If I smoked pot, I wouldn't want to go play for a coach that does random drug tests
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Lot of stupid opinions in your post,***
Dec 30, 2015, 2:28 PM
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110%er [8866]
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The NCAA tested all four teams from last year's semis.
Dec 30, 2015, 9:35 AM
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That's why Oregon lost a WR prior to the championship game.
Suspending a player / sending him home is the only way to protect the player's future eligibility, as the NCAA can test all players on-site, including those that are injured or being held out - it is how Mitch McGary (Michigan basketball player) was suspended for a calendar year for failing a drug test at the NCAA tournament, despite not playing due to injury. McGary's case is what ultimately led to the suspension for "street" or "recreational" drugs to be reduced from a full calendar year (during which the player loses eligibility) to six (6) months, during the 2014 legislative cycle.
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There is right and wrong...
Dec 30, 2015, 9:35 AM
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What other people do or don't do has no impact on whether or not something is right or wrong.
You have to take the whole package and this is part of the package...I'm far more comfortable being a Clemson fan than I would be an FSU fan and part of that is because Dabo does not make exceptions and challenges his guys to be better every day...not just on the field but in life.
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Wait ....
Dec 30, 2015, 9:47 AM
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Are you implying that Jimbo Fisher flies the flag a little lower than Dabo ?
That Jimbo might be less than inclined to harm his win chances to teach a kid a life lesson ?
Unspeakable. Reprehensible.
I hope you can back that up in defamation court !
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Yeah.. Dabo sure doesn't seem to have control over this
Dec 30, 2015, 9:50 AM
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team and the results just aren't good enough...
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Re: Seems unnecessary.
Dec 30, 2015, 12:42 PM
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it's ALL about a standard of living and breaking the rules of that standard. dabo has set a standard of living for the players on his team. if and when he finds you broke the rules, he may give you a second chance, but he deals with you as he sees fit.
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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Dabo, unlike many coaches, is concerned about the
Dec 30, 2015, 2:19 PM
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Individual not just wins. I applaud him for his total commitment to the development of the individuals.
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Re: LOVE Dabo Sweeney! This was a team drug test
Dec 30, 2015, 9:21 AM
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Another example of doing what's right as opposed to expedient.
Love this guy.
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Re: LOVE Dabo Sweeney! This was a team drug test
Dec 30, 2015, 1:27 PM
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If so, it was a bonehead move. I will take no solace in a loss knowing that our coach did the 'right' but unnecessary thing. Just poor timing.
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It's called Coaching, and Teaching. We plan to be here on
Dec 30, 2015, 1:30 PM
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the big stage from now on, and Dabo wants it known that he will not put up with any immature crap from our guys. Take it to UsUCk if you don't like that.
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Re: It's called Coaching, and Teaching. We plan to be here on
Dec 30, 2015, 1:39 PM
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Well if so then I feel much better about it now.
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Stupid to test AFTER!***
Dec 30, 2015, 2:32 PM
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Last year, they tested all 4 playoff teams,AFTER the semi
Dec 30, 2015, 2:43 PM
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final games were played.Oregon lost a WR for the Final Game, but shouldn't they have forfeited the win against FSU ?
This year, as in all years under Dabo,the team was tested before the Bowl game.
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Re: Last year, they tested all 4 playoff teams,AFTER the semi
Dec 30, 2015, 3:05 PM
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> final games were played.Oregon lost a WR for the
> Final Game, but shouldn't they have forfeited the win
> against FSU ?
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> This year, as in all years under Dabo,the team was
> tested before the Bowl game.
I hear you, but I would really like to find a link from either Clemson on the NCAA that stated that it was their test. It would help shut up some of these #####
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Re: Last year, they tested all 4 playoff teams,AFTER the semi
Dec 30, 2015, 3:24 PM
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Didn't they ask him during the presser this morning if it was NCAA or team-based and he vaguely answered along the lines of "they violated team rules"? I took away from that statement that it was in fact team-based, not NCAA. Certainly if it was administered by the NCAA, we'd have already been reading headlines about them being automatically suspended for 6mos of the ensuing season, no?
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Re: Last year, they tested all 4 playoff teams,AFTER the semi
Dec 30, 2015, 4:00 PM
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> Didn't they ask him during the presser this morning
> if it was NCAA or team-based and he vaguely answered
> along the lines of "they violated team rules"? I took
> away from that statement that it was in fact
> team-based, not NCAA. Certainly if it was
> administered by the NCAA, we'd have already been
> reading headlines about them being automatically
> suspended for 6mos of the ensuing season, no?
No they did not ask him. And I am not disputing that is exactly the case. I am saying it is in the programs best interest to publish that this was a CLEMSON administered test. As good a job as we do with media, you would think it would be out there in a big way.
Anyone got a link? It seems like D Hood, could get the answer in a short period of time, or do I need to go over his head to Nikki?
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Re: It's called Coaching, and Teaching. We plan to be here on
Dec 30, 2015, 3:36 PM
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This was a test administered by Clemson not the NCAA. That gives Clemson a distinct advantage when the NCAA tests later this week. We already tested and sent those players home. If we had not sent them home they would still be subject to being tested by NCAA and Clemson would have had no say in the discipline. Now each player can be disciplined according to how Clemson wants to handle it. Cain being suspended for the playoffs and however many more games etc that Dabo decides. NCAA testing would have resulted in automatic 6 months
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Re: It's called Coaching, and Teaching. We plan to be here on
Dec 30, 2015, 3:55 PM
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> This was a test administered by Clemson not the NCAA.
> That gives Clemson a distinct advantage when the NCAA
> tests later this week. We already tested and sent
> those players home. If we had not sent them home they
> would still be subject to being tested by NCAA and
> Clemson would have had no say in the discipline. Now
> each player can be disciplined according to how
> Clemson wants to handle it. Cain being suspended for
> the playoffs and however many more games etc that
> Dabo decides. NCAA testing would have resulted in
> automatic 6 months
I hear ya, and that is whjat I have been told, but I have not seen that from any written source other than posters. I am thinking there should be a link to some source. THere is zero reason for it to be secret.
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Re: LOVE Dabo Sweeney! This was a team drug test
Dec 30, 2015, 2:37 PM
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Does anyone have a link that confirms that this was a Team test, not the NCAA test? I have a hard time believing that , but I have been told this by people that have been reliable in the past. If it was the NCAA test , it would seem that there would have been a broader announcement and detailed appeals and etc?
TIA
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Re: LOVE Dabo Sweeney! This was a team drug test
Dec 30, 2015, 3:21 PM
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Is that you Coach Stoops?
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Some fans are way to harsh
Dec 30, 2015, 3:52 PM
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I would have failed a drug test my freshman year at Clemson. I've matured and am a father and doctor. I can understand the repeat offenders but some people on here are wanting to kick Cain off the team for first offense which is ridiculous. He is 18 and 18 year olds don't always make perfect decisions.
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