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We're making national news now

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 1:29 AM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/acc/2020/09/14/clemson-football-dabo-swinney-defends-team-helmet-stickers/5795728002/


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 2:10 AM
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I don't support any of this bs period but that imo


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:58 AM
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Well you're nobody, so no one cares what you support. The players are all that matter and 3 out of every 4 that play for Clemson are black. You can always find another team to pull for.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 12:46 PM
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Tolerance . . .


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:34 PM
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Just because you’re black doesn’t mean your opinions are correct. BLM and antifa are political organizations that are Marxist and anti-American! Anyone with two brain cells that is even remotely objective knows this to be true. There are even people on the left and many Black people that do not support those organizations. And if you think the majority of Clemson fans support this BS you are sadly mistaken! I guarantee you 70 to 80% if not more of Clemson alumni and IPTAY members Do not support this BS! Let Dabo get too far out over his skis supporting BLM and you will see people telling IPTAY to take a hike! This is all political nonsense! Black people in America have it better than anywhere else in the world! Black people in America are not being oppressed and black people are not being gunned down by the police! This is main stream media and social media propaganda and hysteria! But there is zero statistical or other data or evidence to support the claims of BLM and antifa. Are there racist people in America? Yes. Because they are racist people in every country and every culture. Black people in America are some of the most racist people on this planet. There have been polls were even Black people vote that they are the most racist people in America. But America is not a racist country. Not anymore. And America was not founded on racism. And there is no such thing as systemic racism. That is a made up term after the laws were changed and America was no longer supporting institutional racism.


If you don't support the left, you "ain't black" according


Posted: Sep 16, 2020 3:13 AM
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to Biden.

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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 7:54 AM
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3 out of every 4 Clemson football players are black.. that's great.. now do Clemson's student body like 5% MAYBE? now do the population of the country... 13 % of the population 50% of the crime.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:30 PM
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There is no place for racism. As a white person I have had privilege that black people don’t have. It’s not right.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:36 PM
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White privilege doesn’t exist. That’s propaganda. White people have an advantage because we are the majority of the population. Try being white in a black neighborhood or in a black business. Try being a white American in France or Asia. There’s no privilege when you go to those places. There are more poor white people in America than the total number of Black people. There is no privilege to be in white. The only privilege in America is economic. Stop drinking the Kool-Aid!


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:38 PM
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I go to Asia all the time and my privilege is crazy. You must never have been there. There’s no arguing with idiots...


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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 10:33 PM
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The Chinese Government love this imploding. Chew on that for a a quick minute!


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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 12:43 AM
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I think many Whites may disagree my friend. I have many friends that are white and I understand that systemic racism(if it exists at all) is actually against whites from my experience. Is it harder to make it if you start lower on the totem pole .... YES... but that goes for ALL poor white, black and brown people. As far as systemic racism (ie stacking the deck against you because of the color of your skin)....my white friends faced tougher admission standards to get accepted into college. They had less scholorship opportunities because of the color of their skin. They faced a much harder time landing a corp or govt position only because they happenned to have been born white. I remember when I would take my white friends into the city to the Clubs, I saw how they were treated just because they were white even though they were with me. I remember being embarrassed about it and we never went back. Once at my house, I recall my Mom telling me to walk them out to their car when they were leaving the house one night just because they were white and she was concerned for them.. Yet, when I would visit their homes over break I never felt concerned in that way nor when I went into a “Mostly White” bar. I may not have grown up “In Privelage” (meaning with $) like they did but they certainly don’t have “White Privelage”. Thats just my experience and I know everyone has their own set of experiences that shape them and I respect that but I think we are all equal in Gods eyes and we should all try harder to look through that lense.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:30 PM
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There is no place for racism. As a white person I have had privilege that black people don’t have. It’s not right.


Be a leader not a follower. Give up the possessions

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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 3:20 AM
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that you unfairly gained. Move to a low income black neighborhood so that a person from that neighborhood can move into your house.

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My wife has taught in very low income primarily black schools. It has opened my eyes that very few make it out successfully. I used to think I was getting shafted paying full price for tuition while minorities get more scholarships but I’m ok with it since I know many (definitely not all) minority students have a much more challenging road.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 2:11 AM
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Oh my gosh. I sure hope we got a lot of likes and retweets.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 2:33 AM
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You should be asleep so you can rest your nerves


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 2:36 AM
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Dabo has done basically what every coach has done, just shut up and follow along. Which is fine, it's his program

I'll just say the money I spent previously on Clemson football, its hard to justify anymore. The excitment just isnt there for me anymore. It's clear Dabo and his program have decided to support an organization i think are dead set on destroying this country as we know it

He should apologize to every cop he hurt with his comments


Just my opinion


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 8:25 AM
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Lets really pout some thought into this. The players want to speak up for a cause they believe in whether you or I or anyone else likes it or not. Dabo is simply supporting his players. Whats he supposed to do... say he doesn't share his players beliefs? Wouldn't make for a very successful program with that kind of disconnect between the coach and players. Every motion that the football team has made has been peaceful in nature. Unless something happens that isn't peaceful, he has no good reason to speak out against it.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 8:41 AM
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Using your logic there is literally nothing the players could say that Dabo wouldn't have to support. Overthrow the government? OK. Tear up the Constitution? Sounds good. Kill all cops? Sure, you can run a 4.4. Saying he "has no choice" means fielding a competitive football team is more important than having beliefs you won't throw out the window the first time its professionally uncomfortable. Nothing brave at all about selling your soul to appeal to players (or potential players) who support a racist, America hating organization. Quite the opposite actually.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 8:44 AM
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I knew this was going to be a response. If you read the whole thing, you would see that I said specifically that until his players did something out of hand or something that was not peaceful.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 8:45 AM
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You clearly do not understand what is going on, your response made absolutely no sense, and may God have mercy on your soul.


tear up the constitution? Dude... quit watching the "news"***


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:41 PM
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Actually I call BS on that. Double says his job and his calling is to build men. To build men of character. We’re going to find out whether he really means that. Because as a Christian and as the coach he says he is rather than letting these players and these kids believe BS propaganda he would be teaching them the reality! He would show them the video tape of Marcellus Wiley calling BS on BLM! He would show them videos of One of the truly great Americans, Thomas Sowell, explaining in detail with rock solid proof and evidence that everything the left, especially the far left, believes is total BS and propaganda! He would show them videos of Larry elder and tons of other successful black conservatives and Asian conservatives and Hispanic conservatives and immigrants from other countries that know what real racism and real injustice and real prejudice and real communism and socialism look like and explaining to these kids why they are by far the luckiest kids in the world and that they are living in the best time in the best country to ever exist in the history of mankind! If Dabo is the person he has always claimed to be he would not get out over his skis on this BS and at some point will start pushing back and educating his players.


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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 9:02 PM
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ClemTig16 said:

Lets really pout some thought into this. The players want to speak up for a cause they believe in whether you or I or anyone else likes it or not. Dabo is simply supporting his players. Whats he supposed to do... say he doesn't share his players beliefs? Wouldn't make for a very successful program with that kind of disconnect between the coach and players. Every motion that the football team has made has been peaceful in nature. Unless something happens that isn't peaceful, he has no good reason to speak out against it.


If the players are supporting BLM the organization then Dabo has the responsibility to teach his players what BLM stands for. He says he wants to mold them etc. he owes it to those players to educate them, if he does that and they still are behind the organization then so be it.


So in a way, you are a SJW too***


Posted: Sep 15, 2020 8:26 AM
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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 8:40 AM
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whats that?


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 11:01 AM
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The message is not about the BLM Org. Most black people dont even care about the BLM Org...we care about the message.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:46 PM
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I see a lot of people on here saying that. That is total BS! The Democrats and corporate America and social media are all in on BLM as an organization!


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 9:33 PM
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"I'll just say the money I spent previously on Clemson football, its hard to justify anymore."


OK. Find the place where you are comfortable and go there.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:54 PM
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If you have lower deck seats, please make that decision. I would be happy to donate more for better seats :)


If you have a problem with this

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 6:29 AM
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Take you’re racist self somewhere else

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 8:23 AM
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maybe you are the racist instead


Re: If you have a problem with this

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:50 PM
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I hate to shatter your fragile little delusional world, but BLM and antifa and social media and Google and Twitter and the Democrats and the far left are the racists! They are the authoritarian‘s. They are the identititarians. Identity politics is the racism breaking America apart and no one does that better than the Democrats and the far left! They invented it!


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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 5:51 PM
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The ignorant jackwads here who cannot see what these Leftie organizations really are will find out when the Harris-Biden bunch get in... Even the Elite Hollyweird crowd will get Soylent Green'd...

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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 1:04 PM
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To disagree does not equal: To look down upon or to hate.

I disagree with the BLM Organization's stance and I believe it should in no way be associated with the Clemson football team.

I fully support the player's right to calmly and peacefully support their position. While I think there needs to be a multi-directional conversation, I have empathy for what they are feeling and I have no issue with them expressing it.

I think our team and players are smart enough to come up with a way to do this that does not involve using a sticker that represents the BLM organization.


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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 5:53 PM
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Then why did they do it??

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 7:21 AM
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The admiration pedestal Dabo has been placed on since performing a truly miraculous turnaround in Clemson football fortunes has gotten somewhat smaller with his handling of the BLM issue. His focus to help ALL Clemson players regardless of race is without question and he indeed loves his players even when administering corrective discipline. As a coach who focuses on detail, I think he failed in not thoroughly vetting the BLM organization and what their goals are. His capitulation on stickers or any other media showing support for BLM just diminishes his stature further among some fans. Make no mistake, dear ole Clemson has become a liberal bastion like most all universities with their snowflakes and safe places. Dabo must operate in that environment and he does.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 11:05 AM
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The players have the power and the platform, Dabo cannot stop this movement, Clemson football isn't winning anything without African American players, they wanted helmet stickers and they got them, and if someone said no then the players wouldn't play. Nobody cares about fans with hurt feelings, this is all about the players and they are on the right side of justice and so is BLM.


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 9:27 PM
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You are a ####### moron. blm is not on the right side of anything. If there are no fans and no donors supporting football then their is no football and no NFL. So no the players don't have the power. WE who support this University monetarily have the power. So just shut up before you make yourself look anymore dumb than you already are,if that is even possible.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:54 PM
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Jesus Christ you are a moron! You are brainwashed! BLM is a Marxist organization. They are an anti-American organization. Two of the three founders are trained Marxist and they have said sold themselves and you can see it on YouTube in an interview. They are for the destruction of police. They want to defund police who are actually the people out there protecting poor black communities! They are an anti-American authoritarian political organization! Even in their mission statement they call for the destruction of the nuclear family. Go read their website you moron! The reason the black community is so effed up in America today is because of liberal policies that destroyed black families! Black people are not being held back by racism. They’re being held back by the racist keeping them on the plantation known as the democratic party!


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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 8:32 PM
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Facts!

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DBrittsRKm said:

The admiration pedestal Dabo has been placed on since performing a truly miraculous turnaround in Clemson football fortunes has gotten somewhat smaller with his handling of the BLM issue. His focus to help ALL Clemson players regardless of race is without question and he indeed loves his players even when administering corrective discipline. As a coach who focuses on detail, I think he failed in not thoroughly vetting the BLM organization and what their goals are. His capitulation on stickers or any other media showing support for BLM just diminishes his stature further among some fans. Make no mistake, dear ole Clemson has become a liberal bastion like most all universities with their snowflakes and safe places. Dabo must operate in that environment and he does.




Do you honestly not see the irony in referring to liberals as snowflakes while this extremely right wing message board has been in near full blown meltdown mode over some ####### stickers?

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Let get me this straight - this is an article essentially

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 7:37 AM
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about a Twitter thread. THIS is what we now call "journalism"? Typical of lazy journalists - don't leave your desk and seek or pick up a phone to give real truth/depth to an article - just take the raw sewage that is posted on Twitter and create a story - as if that is representative of everyone in the fan base. Unfortunately this is the state of reporting today - where "journalists" now solely source social media posts as their "interviews" instead of doing real work...

Newsflash to journalists - "Twitter is NOT America" and you need to start doing your jobs instead relying on BS social media posts...

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 8:33 AM
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Reading this board I’d say those tweets do represent a large portion of our fan base.

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Could be... but could also be a 10 year old on Mom and


Posted: Sep 15, 2020 9:06 AM
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Dad's computer sending out Tweets - that is why no respectable reporter would ever source anything to Twitter from the "general public" as valid commentary on the state of anything.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:58 PM
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Pew research recently did a poll and research regarding Twitter. It found that only 22% of the population has a Twitter account. Approximately 53% of those people tweet once or less per month. 90% of all tweets are by 2% of the American population and the people making those tweets are overwhelmingly female and liberal! Don’t believe me. Google it.

It is well known, and even people on the left are calling BS on this, that Twitter and Google and tech companies and social media in general are very far left and they routinely censor conservative and Republican views.


Trolls make it a farce to report as news anything that is


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posted on social media...

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 9:41 AM
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Clemson should be making a full sprint away from BLM, Inc. It is destroying everything in its path. No one can take fire into his bosom and not be burned. Why is that organization bad?
Protects felons, shouts "f**k your Jesus", is Marxist, is occultist, hates police and authority,
is thoroughly racist, and much more that is destructive of unity and peace.
Is BLM,Inc. helping or hurting the football job market for players hoping to join the league?


Yawnnnnnnnn

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 9:43 AM
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We're #1. We're from the south. Yes, we seceded 1st. Yes, we believe in God, STILL. The hate is funny


My favorite part of this is thousands of people using


Posted: Sep 15, 2020 9:47 AM
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the word "Marxism" that had no idea what it meant or who Karl Marx was a couple months ago.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:00 AM
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I am not sure about people not know who Carl Marx is on these boards. I am hoping Clemson's players do not support BLM Inc. I am hoping they are wanting to talk about how they are being perceived in America today. BLM Inc. is a Marxist organization.


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I do..Groucho's brother.

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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 6:44 PM
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My favorite part is that you think these people know what Marxism means or who Karl Marx is now. Let's be real, they've heard something Fox News or OANN and are blindly parroting it.

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:02 AM
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Please move this to another board.


A newspaper article about our football program

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Posted: Sep 16, 2020 3:32 AM
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doesn't belong on a football board?

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 10:23 AM
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Good , when BLM blows up the world can see just how smart Clemson fans really are .


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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 9:35 PM
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Didn’t we make national news by winning the championship?

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Posted: Sep 15, 2020 11:45 PM
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I totally disagree with that anti American organization being displayed on anything Clemson, and the more people say they have a problem with it then maybe some of the players will see the other side and not just follow along with the indoctrination they are seeing from the media and liberal professors- all the fans should be voicing their displeasure


There is nothing wrong with that helmet sticker.


Posted: Sep 16, 2020 1:07 PM
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Some thoughts transcend politics.

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