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Clemson lost the best player in college football

Nov 9, 2017, 8:26 PM

over the past 2 yrs. Deshaun is impossible to replace by anyone. His replacement, KB, is a talented runner who has been hobbled by an testy ankle injury - as a result, his mobility has been limited. Clemson coaching understands Clemson has a talent level across every position that due to recruiting is above every team we will play this season. (Clemson was a pre-season Vegas favorite to win every game except Louisville on the road. Vegas was wrong about Louisville.) And as a result, the coaches, primarily Dabo, have decided to limit Clemson mistakes by placing each game in KB's hands. KB is tough and has limited mistakes by not taking chances such as passes over 15 yards. Clemson's offense has limited touches for ETN and Feaster and limited touches for Deon Cain in favor of running the ball with KB. Opposing coaches and players know it's coming. Clemson players know it.

The concern or fear with Clemson football fans is that when Clemson plays a team of equal talent, and there aren't many in the country, Clemson will fail because KB will be stuffed and coaches will not have readied other players and plays to step up. With the game on the line against NCSU, fans complained because coaches risked a loss by running QB runs plays on the last series doomed to fail. It put the Defense in a vulnerable spot against a talented NCSU QB. So yes, there are fans who don't understand why Clemson coaches choose to greatly limit the use of talented players like ETN, Deon Cain and the talent level of Wide Receiver University. These potential first round draft picks are blocking for a player who will not be drafted or given an opportunity as a scout player in the NFL. As for the the NFL caliber QB who is on the 2017 Clemson team who can pass and has been placed on the shelf - is he being coached up to utilize his passing skills, is he getting any reps in practice, and will Clemson need him against great defenses (i.e. Bama) that will stack the line and allow no QB runs and few runs? If Tigers do need him to beat a stacked line, he will be thrown to the wolves against playoff teams without any experience unless he get reps in upcoming games.

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Or maybe it's just that some fans haven't deified Dabo, and don't act like he can do no wrong. We can acknowledge that he's a great coach & still recognize mistakes. That doesn't make me less of a fan. The entire country could tell KB should have been pulled early in that Cuse game. It was obvious. Not even getting into whether it would have made a difference, he should have given HJ a shot. And if/when the tigers come upon a stout team in the playoffs, we are going to be in trouble. The fact that you can't see that baffles me.
These rinky dink runs with KB are going to get stuffed, & KB being 0'fer on passes over 15 yds is a huge concern.

Wouldn't it be nice if HJ got some PT in a few games, just in case?? He couldn't have been any worse that ZC, my God. But to sit there and call fellow fans idiots because we don't gush over ever move Dabo makes, that's stupid. Unless we have some magical game plan for the playoffs, we are going to get stomped. When the box is stacked 9 deep in the playoffs, and KB has to beat a very good team with his arm, are you seriously confident that he will be able to? Dude can't hit the broadside of a barn.

Yes, KB gives us the best chance to win, but it'd be nice to have a backup plan down the road, like having a young gunslinger with a bit of experience take a shot if things get dicey. Instead, that's not really an option. TF out of here with that garbage. Sorry I'm not a sunshine pumper, but I can root for them and still acknowledge their faults. #### near lost that NC St game b/c of #### poor play calling; couldn't get 3 yards on 2 plays, and it nearly cost them their season.

Point is, they make some of this harder than it has to be. Give the ball to ETN twice, I guarantee he gets those yards. DW4 made a lot of our coaches look really good, sorry if you don't like someone daring to say "that was stupid." Our coaches aren't perfect, I don't expect them to be, but some of you have your head in the clouds, acting like he can do no wrong.

"There is a segment of Clemson fans that doesn't like the WAY Clemson is winning." - Walt

Same vibe as last year pre-Pitt

Absolutely agree.***

Re: "There is a segment of Clemson fans that doesn't like the WAY Clemson is winning." - Walt

I’ve read post by several on this board. He had a caller

Makes sense considering the offense put up 31 on the road

Clemson lost the best player in college football

Mindset of the Coaches???

Yes, we know how some Clemson fans are idiots.

Re: Yes, we know how some Clemson fans are idiots.

Re: Yes, we know how some Clemson fans are idiots.

Fans irrationally ##### and whine about everything

I'd say Walt is off his rocker as usual.

Re: "There is a segment of Clemson fans that doesn't like the WAY Clemson is winning." - Walt

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